The "virus" What are your thoughts

Dr. Birx from the briefing last night has said they have been collecting data straight from the governments around the world. Her exact words, “The average age of mortalities in Italy from this is 85 yrs old.”

Never heard of her before all of this, but I’m pretty impressed.
 
Over 40% of those that died in Italy are 20 to 59

Italy was unable to slow the spread of the virus. If you look at how the virus spiked on a chart it's not hard to understand why so many are dying. 25% of their hospital workers are testing positive for the virus. Many countries are sending doctors and other front line workers to help Italy. Remember most countries in Europe people grocery shop daily they have small bar like fridges not like we have over here.
20-59 is such a large age segment, it’s basically worthless. Which tells me they are using it as a scare tactic. I’d like to see the breakdown 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, 50-59.
 
Why is everyone so worried about Italy. I'm worried what's happening here.
 
Why is everyone so worried about Italy. I'm worried what's happening here.

Not worried, but interested.
We’re collecting data from Italy, among other places, and crunching the numbers in some of our supercomputers that will hopefully expedite the ability for our country to safely start to turn a corner.
BTW: My son’s school, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, has one of the super computers they’re using. It’s the 24th most powerful computer in the world and the 3rd most energy efficient. Some of the faculty is working with the task force. Pretty cool for students to see that something they see all the time and faculty they interact with are being used. The other school the task force is tapping for help is MIT.
 
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In Italy the total number of people with the Covid-19 in the age group 70 and up is 40%. Of those 40% 87% have died. The group 20 to 59 years of age that have the virus are at a 43% death rate. The greatest number of people with Covid-19 in Italy fall in the 69 and under 60%

Your conclusions are unfounded even by your own article.
 
Just saw some headlines that “WHO says US could be the next center of the epidemic”. Does anybody believe what they have to say at this point? They were part of the original problem and ive seen multiple reports of Tedros Adhanom being in Chinas back pocket. Thoughts?
 
Just saw some headlines that “WHO says US could be the next center of the epidemic”. Does anybody believe what they have to say at this point? They were part of the original problem and ive seen multiple reports of Tedros Adhanom being in Chinas back pocket. Thoughts?
I take everything out of the WHO with a healthy dose of skepticism.
 
From what I hear about socialized medicine, I thank God we don’t have it in the US.
I’ve been getting treatment at a major cancer center here in NY for about 6 years now. I’m always amazed at the number of people I encounter there from other countries. I’ve met lots of Canadians and Europeans in the waiting rooms over the years. They don’t speak highly of availability and quality of the healthcare systems in their countries.
My wife still has family in Italy. One side of it is well off enough to come to NY for serious medical stuff. The other side wishes they were.
Met a middle aged guy at a transient marina last summer. We were tied up next to each other. He moved here from Italy about a dozen years ago. He had nothing good to say about the healthcare system in Italy.
He was especially critical of how expensive it was in taxes for employers and citizens there for the “free health care”.

I’m glad you’re happy with the system down there and that you have been fortunate to get the medical care you require. There are people in the US that aren’t so lucky. I’m extremely happy with the system here and have not experienced any of what you describe. I’ll leave it at that.
 
Why haven't we locked down our vulnerable population?
I oversee the care of my 97yo Aunt. She moved into assisted living a couple years ago. The last wk of Feb and the first wk of March I met with the facility Director a couple times and had some follow up phone calls. I'm confident that facility is taking proper care of it's residents, policy and procedure has it sealed up tighter than a drum. I told my Aunt, by phone, that she was in good hands, that the place was earning their money right now. That made my Aunt feel good because she's always about getting her money's worth.:)

Golfman, I'm sure your question was meant in a broader sense, the type of thing I posted is just part of it.
 
I’m glad you’re happy with the system down there and that you have been fortunate to get the medical care you require. There are people in the US that aren’t so lucky. I’m extremely happy with the system here and have not experienced any of what you describe. I’ll leave it at that.

Don’t believe the hype from our disingenuous politicians and the hacks that make a living off of the political industrial complex here in the US.
Everyone gets care here in one way or the other.

Hospital emergency rooms are not allowed to turn anyone away so everyone can get medical care if they really want it.

Worked in “the hood” for most of my adult life.
Lots of poverty. The poor are the largest segment of the uninsured population.
Large concentration of uninsured people in urban hoods around the country.
They go to ER and free clinics all the time.

The smaller segment of the population with no insurance are working class who make a conscience decision to forego insurance. That’s why Obama included a personal mandate and fine for those who fell in this category. Unfortunately, what he didn’t realize or accept that the rest of his plan was a nightmare that increased insurance costs beyond reach of some working people. It’s a nightmare that the Dems are trying to hold on to. In the meantime though, the people in this category can either pay as they go or use emergency rooms and free clinics. They’ll get billed for it, but healthcare system knows they can’t get blood from a stone.
 
Worked in “the hood” for most of my adult life.
Lots of poverty. The poor are the largest segment of the uninsured population.
Large concentration of uninsured people in urban hoods around the country.
They go to ER and free clinics all the time.

A lot of my employees do the same thing. They hit the free clinics for basic things because they don't want to pay the deductible and copay amounts.
 
Don’t believe the hype from our disingenuous politicians and the hacks that make a living off of the political industrial complex here in the US.
Everyone gets care here in one way or the other.

Hospital emergency rooms are not allowed to turn anyone away so everyone can get medical care if they really want it.

Worked in “the hood” for most of my adult life.
Lots of poverty. The poor are the largest segment of the uninsured population.
Large concentration of uninsured people in urban hoods around the country.
They go to ER and free clinics all the time.

The smaller segment of the population with no insurance are working class who make a conscience decision to forego insurance. That’s why Obama included a personal mandate and fine for those who fell in this category. Unfortunately, what he didn’t realize or accept that the rest of his plan was a nightmare that increased insurance costs beyond reach of some working people. It’s a nightmare that the Dems are trying to hold on to. In the meantime though, the people in this category can either pay as they go or use emergency rooms and free clinics. They’ll get billed for it, but healthcare system knows they can’t get blood from a stone.

Look I’m not trying to get into a pissing match with you. I have little interest in another healthcare internet argument. Not sure why you saw my original post about other countries and Italy’s system as an opportunity to put down everyone else’s healthcare and declare the US as superior. That was not the point at all ..I didn’t put down the US in my post regarding Italy ..only that other countries have socialized healthcare.

As I said ..glad you’re happy with the healthcare you receive in the US.
 
Don’t believe the hype from our disingenuous politicians and the hacks that make a living off of the political industrial complex here in the US.
Everyone gets care here in one way or the other.

Hospital emergency rooms are not allowed to turn anyone away so everyone can get medical care if they really want it.

Worked in “the hood” for most of my adult life.
Lots of poverty. The poor are the largest segment of the uninsured population.
Large concentration of uninsured people in urban hoods around the country.
They go to ER and free clinics all the time.

The smaller segment of the population with no insurance are working class who make a conscience decision to forego insurance. That’s why Obama included a personal mandate and fine for those who fell in this category. Unfortunately, what he didn’t realize or accept that the rest of his plan was a nightmare that increased insurance costs beyond reach of some working people. It’s a nightmare that the Dems are trying to hold on to. In the meantime though, the people in this category can either pay as they go or use emergency rooms and free clinics. They’ll get billed for it, but healthcare system knows they can’t get blood from a stone.

I see you are in NY state. I assume that the emergency departments and ICU's are now full in most urban centers? What are you hearing locally about whether the hospitals are able to deliver health care to the critically ill? Are they coping? So far in Canada we are not over capacity like they are in Italy and Spain. In terms of exponential case load increases, it seems like NY state is the closest we have to what might happen in Canada, demographically speaking. So very interested in the state of things down there.
 
I see you are in NY state. I assume that the emergency departments and ICU's are now full in most urban centers? What are you hearing locally about whether the hospitals are able to deliver health care to the critically ill? Are they coping? So far in Canada we are not over capacity like they are in Italy and Spain. In terms of exponential case load increases, it seems like NY state is the closest we have to what might happen in Canada, demographically speaking. So very interested in the state of things down there.

Hospitals apparently still have lots of capacity.
The heavily populated downstate area in and around NYC are where the overwhelming number of positive cases are. NY is a vertical city so no surprises. The silver lining is that NYC, the suburbs and the Metropolitan area in general have a lot of really large hospital/ medical complexes, both public and private.
They’ve prepped by converting underutilized space and cancelling all elective procedures. Looks like those in distress are the ones who are being admitted.
Lots of people being diagnosed because of large amount of testing, several drive through spots around the downstate area, but at this point most don’t seem to be at the point where they need to be hospitalized.
Nephew in law, a healthcare worker, came down with a fever late last week, got tested, came back positive.
His wife and two small kids also developed fevers, didn’t get tested, but are assuming they have it too.
They’re all recovering at home since last Friday and all are doing much better now. He’s a PA. They’ve been staying hydrated, taking over the counter stuff and getting lots of rest and it seems to have worked.
 
Look I’m not trying to get into a pissing match with you. I have little interest in another healthcare internet argument. Not sure why you saw my original post about other countries and Italy’s system as an opportunity to put down everyone else’s healthcare and declare the US as superior. That was not the point at all ..I didn’t put down the US in my post regarding Italy ..only that other countries have socialized healthcare.

As I said ..glad you’re happy with the healthcare you receive in the US.

Sorry.
Didn’t mean to give the impression that I was putting anything down, just relayed info that was passed on to me about a couple of places and shedding light on a misconception that uninsured people can’t get any care here.
Lots of people, including US citizens, make judgements based on rhetoric our politicians use to get themselves elected.
US politicians are notorious liars.
 

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