The truth about wearing a mask -finally

You must really like being scared.....The numbers over the last year just don't warrant the fear
What is the number of deaths that would warrant concern? We know you are OK with 2,000 per day, how high should we go before we get worried?
 
Hospitals are being over run, every 6 days 1,000,000 more cases of Covid-19 are confirmed and we are bordering on 2,000 deaths a day. Other than that the votes are being confirmed and we are moving closer to Dec 14th :D:cool:.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...surging-where-are-hospitals-reaching-capacity
Interesting how they changed the narrative from ICUs and ventilators to hospitalizations. Could it be that many hospitalized patients are receiving remdisiver, convalescent plasma, and other therapies.
 
Interesting how they changed the narrative from ICUs and ventilators to hospitalizations. Could it be that many hospitalized patients are receiving remdisiver, convalescent plasma, and other therapies.

In Utah, records continue being shattered, and cases are skyrocketing. A quarter of new test results are now positive. As intensive care units fill up, health care workers are feeling the strain.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...d-usa-hospitals-overrun-1-million-cases-week/

Last week, the United States broke its record from April for the number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients, blowing past 60,000 all the way to 73,000, according to data compiled by the COVID Tracking Project at The Atlantic.

Now new data released by the Department of Health and Human Services quantify the crisis in America’s hospitals in closer detail.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/617128/
 
Not all Canadians are the same, some are very smart and have real credentials to back it up, not personal fears...

Top Canadian pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told Alberta government officials that the current coronavirus crisis is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”

Dr. Hodkinson responded on a zoom call in Canada the following:
Noting that he was also an expert in virology, Hodkinson pointed out that his role as CEO of a biotech company that manufactures COVID tests means, “I might know a little bit about all this.”
“There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians, it’s outrageous, this is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public,” said Hodkinson.

The doctor said that nothing could be done to stop the spread of the virus besides protecting older more vulnerable people and that the whole situation represented “politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game.”
 
Germany gets it...video in the link
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2079393&jwsource=cl

Police in Berlin used water cannons Wednesday to disperse thousands of protesters who refused to wear masks and keep their distance from one another as required by pandemic regulations.

Protesters had gathered at the city's landmark Brandenburg Gate as German lawmakers debated a bill that will provide the legal underpinning for the government to issue social distancing rules, require masks in public and close stores and other venues to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

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yes ... merkel just pushed a law which basicly makes the cancelling of constitutational rights legal and people went on the street - often without masks .

germany was brilliant at first wave , not so brilliant now...
 
Germany gets it...video in the link
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2079393&jwsource=cl

Police in Berlin used water cannons Wednesday to disperse thousands of protesters who refused to wear masks and keep their distance from one another as required by pandemic regulations.

Protesters had gathered at the city's landmark Brandenburg Gate as German lawmakers debated a bill that will provide the legal underpinning for the government to issue social distancing rules, require masks in public and close stores and other venues to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

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What does Germany get? Lawmakers debating passing an actual law? or using water cannons on protesters? :)
 
What does Germany get? Lawmakers debating passing an actual law? or using water cannons on protesters? :)
Protesting shutdowns.... and getting a free shower.... better then going home crying from tear gas like we do over here
 
What is the number of deaths that would warrant concern? We know you are OK with 2,000 per day, how high should we go before we get worried?
It comes down to risk management. We practice it in my line of work every day. Take a look at what needs to be done, look at the possible outcomes based on experience and available information.... and decide if the risk is worth it.
In my opinion, we need to focus our preventative measures on the most vulnerable. For the rest of us, stop living in fear. For me, in the infinitesimal chance that I contract the virus, actually get sick, and potentially end up in the hospital, I have a 98.6% chance of survival. I am willing to accept that risk. But I am being told that I don't know enough to decide for myself. Instead I need these obtrusive restrictions on my liberty to protect me from somehting that is just not a threat to me. If I was in a more vulnerable population, I would take the necessary steps to protect myself. So while I am not "OK" with 2000 deaths a day, I feel I am in a place to do what I need to do to protect myself to the degree I feel it is necessary. Why is that so difficult to understand? What am I missing? Also no one has given me an endstate to all this. ....for you where does it end??? What is your standard for returning to normalcy and letting people live? Or are you OK with the lockdowns, masking social distancing, and deprivation of liberty? Over a disease that will probably not kill you.
 
I don’t like this either. Just the messenger so don’t jump on me but I have a friend registered nurse works a major hospital here in Baltimore. She told me get used to wearing a mask for a very long time, this ain’t going away anytime soon. The “land of the *free* and home of the *brave*” is totally shittin their pants scared over this.
 
I don’t like this either. Just the messenger so don’t jump on me but I have a friend registered nurse works a major hospital here in Baltimore. She told me get used to wearing a mask for a very long time, this ain’t going away anytime soon. The “land of the *free* and home of the *brave*” is totally shittin their pants scared over this.
That makes me sad, and frustrates the hell out of me.
 
What am I missing? Also no one has given me an endstate to all this. ...

pete , you miss the fact that its not only your personal risk management but you are becoming also a spreader infecting others .
thinking this globally the amount of infections would rise that much that healthcare will collapse and people will be without any help . death rate in sach scenario would skyrocket , the state would loose its major function - to protect their citizens as best as they can .

there are viruses more deadly - eg. HIV - than corona and the world does not shut down , why ?

because spreading hiv is mainly doing ugly private things with another men :D:D:D , that is your personal risk managment .

in case of corona - we all have to breathe and thats why in this case its not only about you .
 
pete , you miss the fact that its not only your personal risk management but you are becoming also a spreader infecting others .

This is where you have been misled. It takes two people to transfer the virus. The giver and the receiver. Those of us who choose not to get infected can do so by isolating ourselves from potential givers. It's that simple.

So what does that mean. I am not going to hang out at the local bar which is usually packed with live music and youngins. Rather, I am going to the outdoor beer garden where I can sit alone with the admiral and suck a few down. I am not going to an indoor restaurant but rather sitting outside. If I see some dude not wearing a mask, coughing and sneezing up and down the grocery isles, I am avoiding his sorry a$$ like the plague. I am not going to in person business meetings, but doing so online. Etc. Etc.
 
golfman, with this model i guess you still have so many people hanging out together that the hospitals would collapse and death rate would rise massivly . i do not think it can work and no country tries the " isolate yourself if you want but zero restrictions if you do not want " idea.

the restrictions are meant to slow down the spread to a level where hospitals are not overhelmed - with everybody very vulnerable free to isolate himself .
 
the restrictions are meant to slow down the spread to a level where hospitals are not overhelmed - with everybody very vulnerable free to isolate himself .

You still believe that lie. Ok.
 
pete , you miss the fact that its not only your personal risk management but you are becoming also a spreader infecting others .
thinking this globally the amount of infections would rise that much that healthcare will collapse and people will be without any help . death rate in sach scenario would skyrocket , the state would loose its major function - to protect their citizens as best as they can .

there are viruses more deadly - eg. HIV - than corona and the world does not shut down , why ?

because spreading hiv is mainly doing ugly private things with another men :D:D:D , that is your personal risk managment .

in case of corona - we all have to breathe and thats why in this case its not only about you .

Wish I could believe that. But the survival rate tells me otherwise.
 

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