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TotallyGross said:
I have a 2002 400 Sedan Bridge with the Cummins 6CTA 8.3's.
Does anyone have a flush kit for the engines (and the gen)? If I venture into salt water next year I would like to have the ability to run fresh water through the system instead of the saltwater. Also my goal is to install it before the winterizing season here in Maryland and use it for running the antifreeze through it. Has anyone bought one or made something they could share what worked well? TIA!
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Have you considered installing a salt neutralizer injection system? I installed one on my 44DB and via Remote control open electric solenoid valves plumbed into the tops of the strainers until the exhaust water is foaming, About 45 seconds then shut down. This winter I am going to inspect my aftercoolers and determine the effectiveness. The boat is a 2006 with 400 hrs and has yet to have any work done to the cooling system. Ill post the results.
Carpe Diem
 
my3sons said:
By chance do you know when they started using the bad parts? My VF fridge is 4 years old.
Wondering if I should be adding another spare part to the locker before taking off somewhere.
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My fridge guy who I bought my Vitrifigro from 16 months ago, tells me yours was built before the problem batch of boards showed up. He also said even mine would have failed by now if I had the bad version of the board. He said it was a fairly quick infant mortality issue. It's possible Arickosmo first fridge didn't fail from the board issue since it ran a full two years.
 
my3sons said:
By chance do you know when they started using the bad parts? My VF fridge is 4 years old.
Wondering if I should be adding another spare part to the locker before taking off somewhere.
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I had the same problem when the voltage dropped below 12 V it would no longer work. The fridge has a working voltage of 12-24V. They sent me a replacement two years later with the updated stainless door handles built into the center and let me keep the old one. I sold it for $1000 letting the people know it only worked with over 12V and on 120V. Anyways I purchased a military grade dc to dc converter which took 10- 24 V and put out 24V constant. poof problem solved. Being an Italian fridge and most of their products built for luxury yachts- it really was designed for the 24V environment. The 12V systems when dropping the loads as the batteries drain just fry the boards.
 
ZZ13 said:
Not sure what you have for a chart plotter, but on mine the RL80C got its gps data from the RN300 via Seatalk. The autopilot's Course Computer gets its nav data from the RL80C via NMEA. So now that your RN300 is gone, just connect the two NMEA out wires from the GX2200 to the two NMEA in wires on your chart plotter. That should be all you need to do.
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Hey Bill,

Throwback to and old post here. I’m contemplating a piece by piece upgrade to my electronics. I’m thinking of doing similar to what you described, leaving the RL80c for now, as a long range plotter. In my case, it would stay as the radar, too, for now. But I want to add a new plotter. It would be the primary for now and would become the secondary when I do ultimately replace the RL80c.

In doing this, I plan to remove the RN300 GPS. The RN300 feeds position data to the RL80c via the Seatalk port, but as I read what you suggest, I should be able to feed that same data from the new plotter’s NMEA (0183) out port, right? What happens with the Seatalk interface to the plotter? Just unplug the cable, yes. But is any reconfig needed on the plotter, to look for GPS and other position data on NMEA In pins instead of the Seatalk?

I understand that the course computer would still get that position data from the RL80c from the RL80c’s NMEA Out port. Any mistakes in my assumptions here?

Thanks

Note that I also plan to add and AIS capable VHF. That will have NMEA2000. And I’m curious if the VHF will use its’ own GPS receiver or if it will use position data off the NMEA2000. Anyone know?

Thanks,
 
scooper321 said:
Hey Bill,

Throwback to and old post here. I’m contemplating a piece by piece upgrade to my electronics. I’m thinking of doing similar to what you described, leaving the RL80c for now, as a long range plotter. In my case, it would stay as the radar, too, for now. But I want to add a new plotter. It would be the primary for now and would become the secondary when I do ultimately replace the RL80c.

In doing this, I plan to remove the RN300 GPS. The RN300 feeds position data to the RL80c via the Seatalk port, but as I read what you suggest, I should be able to feed that same data from the new plotter’s NMEA (0183) out port, right? What happens with the Seatalk interface to the plotter? Just unplug the cable, yes. But is any reconfig needed on the plotter, to look for GPS and other position data on NMEA In pins instead of the Seatalk?

I understand that the course computer would still get that position data from the RL80c from the RL80c’s NMEA Out port. Any mistakes in my assumptions here?

Thanks

Note that I also plan to add and AIS capable VHF. That will have NMEA2000. And I’m curious if the VHF will use its’ own GPS receiver or if it will use position data off the NMEA2000. Anyone know?

Thanks,
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I left my Seatalk connected to the plotter because it uses that bus to share it's data with the other seatalk devices. In my case I have the same era Raymarine L760 fishfinder and the st60 tridata on Seatalk along with the plotter.

No need to change anything in the RL80C plotter when you connect nmea0183 to it. It knows to use that data.

It depends whether the vhf you buy has built in gps or not. If it doesn't, you would need to connect nmea to it to get position data for use with DSC.
 
Guys, why do we even have the RN 300?Seems useless. Just about everything it provides is available on the RL 80. I don’t usually even turn mine on. Is it just for redundancy?
 
my3sons said:
Guys, why do we even have the RN 300?Seems useless. Just about everything it provides is available on the RL 80. I don’t usually even turn mine on. Is it just for redundancy?
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At the factory install the RN300 was the only gps data source. It took the raw data from the passive antenna and converted it to the NMEA sentences that got passed on to the chartplotters. When I removed mine I replaced it with an active antenna (Raystar 125) that has all the processing built in. If you aren't using the rn300 then you have the gps data coming from something else. Either an aftermarket second chart plotter, or an active antenna. The rl80c does not have an internal gps antenna like most of the current generation of chart plotters.
 
Got it. I have a 125 antenna. Stand alone Garmin MFD that I use for charts, not tied to anything else. All the original stuff works.
When it quits, I’ll be calling you.
 
ZZ13 said:
I left my Seatalk connected to the plotter because it uses that bus to share it's data with the other seatalk devices. In my case I have the same era Raymarine L760 fishfinder and the st60 tridata on Seatalk along with the plotter.

No need to change anything in the RL80C plotter when you connect nmea0183 to it. It knows to use that data.

It depends whether the vhf you buy has built in gps or not. If it doesn't, you would need to connect nmea to it to get position data for use with DSC.
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Thanks. I wasn’t even thinking about the TriData being connected to SeaTalk. Guess I’ll leave it connected. Glad to know i don’t have to change any configuration inside the RL. Sometimes hunting for that one special setting is maddening!

The VHF I’m leaning toward is the Icom M506, with GPS and an AIS xcvr. I don’t want 2 GPS sources running around my helm!

This is helpful. I think I can add a new plotter, remove my RN300 and swap radios relatively easy, while relocating the AP like you did.- to the starboard helm. Later, when the Radar dies, I’ll replace the RL with a big screen MFD in the same spot. Lining up my winter projects now!

Also realized that when the RN300 goes, I can remove that GPS antenna “bulb” off the radar arch. Maybe I’ll put a WiFi antenna/repeater there!
 
Drafter said:
Have any of you guys that keep your boat out in the weather dealt with a soft floor in the transom locker? On my list of course of things to do is to replace the weather stripping in the photo attached.... My boat has been kept under cover its entire life and likely hasn't been rained on a dozen times over the last 20 years. The floor in this locker is getting pretty soft. I assume from wet floatie saddle storage, and washing with poor drainage from this locker. I'm considering dropping a star board floor in over the existing plywood and caulking/sealing it into place vs. re-glassing, or the wood rot penetrating stuff.
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Hi Drafter, just saw your post about your soft floor in your transom locker. I found out I have the same problem. What did you end up doing to fix this issue?
 
Hi everyone, has anyone changed their steering wheel out? I was thinking about installing a SS Lewmar wheel. Also, does anybody know the size of the bolt/nut on the steering wheel. Thanks, Greg
 
Hello everyone. Does anyone know where I can buy a cockpit drain cover? I have the one drain configuration on the starboard side and plan to add another drain on the port. I'd like them to match but cannot seem to find the cover anywhere, including flounder pounder and searayman13. I cannot even find something similar anywhere. Thank you
 
Well I’ll be damned. Had this boat 6 months now and lookie what I just found!
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Yes, it’s a fish finder/sonar. And no, it’s not actually installed upside down. Found it when I was trying to trace the connections of my helm electronics (what’s on seatalk, what’s on NMEA0183, etc.). Never realized it was connected to my Aux switch! Ha ha! I love learning more about my boat!
 
Juergen said:
Hi Drafter, just saw your post about your soft floor in your transom locker. I found out I have the same problem. What did you end up doing to fix this issue?
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Juergen, it’s probably going to be a winter project. I’ll clean it up with a sander to clean wood, and then stiffen it up with a fresh couple of layers of glass. I’ll top it off with a white bilge paint which is a nice durable paint. I did replace the weather seal this summer, but it still gets a little wet.
 
Hello All,
I have just purchased our first boat, a 2001 400db, and would like to install a watermaker and am wondering if anyone here has done the same.
I am interested to know what locations work best for the install and if there are any recommendations on makes and models.
Thanks!
 
Drafter said:
Juergen, it’s probably going to be a winter project. I’ll clean it up with a sander to clean wood, and then stiffen it up with a fresh couple of layers of glass. I’ll top it off with a white bilge paint which is a nice durable paint. I did replace the weather seal this summer, but it still gets a little wet.
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Drafter, what seal did you use on the door? Thanks,Greg
 

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ZZ13 said:
My fridge guy who I bought my Vitrifigro from 16 months ago, tells me yours was built before the problem batch of boards showed up. He also said even mine would have failed by now if I had the bad version of the board. He said it was a fairly quick infant mortality issue. It's possible Arickosmo first fridge didn't fail from the board issue since it ran a full two years.
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I don't think the term "full two years" should ever be used when discussing a $1200 appliance. Also, it was the board that failed. It's up and running in my warehouse now. vf should have stepped up and let people know that there was an issue. Instead, they crossed their fingers. Rant over. I now have two refrigerators that fit my wonderful boat.
 
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