Electric Sofa in the main salon and aft stateroom.

Purchasing a 2000 460 Sundancer. The broker showed us how both sofas open up flat and convert to a sleeper. However, he could not get either sofa back into the "sofa position", leaving the boat that way saying he would call the owner to see if there was a trick.

I spoke with him today on the phone and he claims the owner says the sofa opens and locks "over-center" and it needs a helping hand to get it moving towards the retract position. All the time he was trying to retract the sofa's he was engaging several buttons and we heard a "clicking" noise and the lights dimmed momentarily while he was pushing the buttons. Obviously a large draw on the electrical system but wonder what's going on. He said the bed position were used only a few times during the life of the boat.

Are the motors shot? Are the mechanisms shot? Or both? And how much would it cost to replace the motors? How many hours of labor are involved? Survey coming up in two weeks and I want to negotiate the repair into this.

You should post this in the 460da owners thread but it’s typical and not really a problem. You need to pull up on the back of the sofa while someone presses the “up” button. He is correct it just needs some help and it’s no biggie.

Agree, it's normal. On my 460 I hardly ever deploy the salon electric sofa but it returns up to couch position as it should. But in the aft cabin it always needs a little pull as Josh mentions. Just a couple of short bursts while you pull and then up it comes. With long arms it's a one-person maneuver.
Not perfect, but not a big deal.
Congrats on the boat.

My 2001 also needs a helping hand getting back to the up right/stowed position. Called the manufacture reference the issue. They pretty much said; " that's the way of it"
I just roll with it and except the occasional inconvience. I just make sure the guests are gone so they can't hear my expletives during the stowing process.

As far as replacing anything; I'm thinking not. I took the whole unit out and had it in the center of my salon. It was dragging on the flooring when extended. The unit it self was pretty robust; motors were sound and of suffent power to do the designated tasks. Replacing them would be a crap shoot at best. Not sure I buy the over lock angle; sounds good, but think the whole deal is just a matter of secondary engineering to fit in the SeaRay requirements. The manufacturer sure was not all that knowledgeable when I called. Initally they could not find this sofa unit in their system. I'm guessing it was a contract requiring amendments to current product items to meet SeaRay requirements. Units were installed and done with.

Ditto on the above.

I thought mine needed Greasing and things like that. Took them apart cleaned and greased and yep they wouldn’t come back up with out pulling up on the back of the top part of the couch.

Joint Custody said:

Ditto on the above.

I thought mine needed Greasing and things like that. Took them apart cleaned and greased and yep they wouldn’t come back up with out pulling up on the back of the top part of the couch.

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Same with mine; thought a good cleaning and lub job would make it stow on its own.

How do you disconnect the sofa to move it. I have some water seepage I need to investigate, and would like to remove it temporarily. Anyone ever need to do this?

Keithf35 said:

How do you disconnect the sofa to move it. I have some water seepage I need to investigate, and would like to remove it temporarily. Anyone ever need to do this?

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When I removed mine to replace the waste hoses and install the flooring. I labeled the 4 wires then cut them then used insulated spade connectors when I put it back together.
Another trick I used to clean that bilge behind it was to simply take the back of the sofa off. It is only held on by 4 screws and is easy to access. Slide the sofa out, grab a screw gun, remove the 4 screws and viola easy access without taking the sofa completely out.
I had water seeping into that bilge and it took me a little while to figure out where it was coming from. Turns out my bypass valve on the hot water tank was leaking. Replaced the valve and no more water!!

I saw the 4 bolts you speak of...great suggestion.Thank you.