1999 400 sundancer actual length

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Rzide

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1999 400 Sundancer
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I am getting ready to pay for my yearly dock fee with the new boat, 1999 400 sundancer. The club i'm at requires an actual measurement of the boat. I did my best to measure from the edge of the swim platform to the tip of the bow pulpit, by myself on land mind you.

I came up with about 47ft on the nose. This seems way long to me. Can anyone confirm or advise better, I just feel like maybe I measured wrong.

Thanks.
 
My '98 450 is 51' loa and if you add the dinghy hanging off the swimstep it's 57' loa... So, you may be pretty close at 47'.
 
Interesting! I’ve never measured it myself. I have a 50’ slip. If I put the tip of the anchor exactly at the main pier, I have about 3’ open at the stern... The anchor and mount certainly don’t account for the mysterious 3 feet. The trouble is, I’ve never measured the dock either. Our boats have no pulpit, so are you including the anchor, or just the point of the bow?

The Bill Collector said:
Dimensions
LOA: 44 ft 4 in
Beam: 13 ft 10 in
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I’ve mentioned this before. Sea Ray claimed that the 400DA had a 13’ 10” beam, and that the 450DA had 13’ 11” beam.

Anyone who looks closely at both boats knows that there’s more than 1” difference in beam. Which one is wrong, or are they both wrong?
 
Sounds about right based on published specs - once you add the anchor roller and anchor in there, anyways. Give or take a bit, I think you're accurate. Doing it on land, as you did, would be an easy/accurate way to do it.
 
My 380, from tip to tale is 43’, at least that’s what the marina said and charges me for. The spec says 42’ so it sounds right that the anchor&roller adds a foot
 
Here in the Netherlands you have private harbors and association harbors with members and long waiting lists. The fee difference is sometimes really huge.

a year ago we decided to buy a 500da and at our ‘home’ private marina, where we have berth since 2000, the yearly fee is around 5,5k. Not far from our harbor there is a small associated harbor with around 60 slips and a max of 300 members and a waiting list for many many years. Yearly fee for the biggest slip is 2k.

When you don’t ask you never know so in December 2018 we visit the harbor, introduced ourself and told them our plan to buy the 500. According to the spec sheet: 15.25 meter.
Couple days later the telephone rings and great news, they have from 1-1-2019 the biggest slip 15.5 meter available. 2k a year and some first time cost etc with total 2.5k first year.
Awesome, that saves us lots of cash. 14 January invoice arrived and payed it. But at that point we didn’t had the 500da, lol we didn’t actually went to inspect a 500da at that moment. We only had 4/5 500da of interest in Europe that we saw on boating sites. But we have a berth for less €.

In april we went to Italy and bought our 500DA. In august 2019 we transported her to the Netherlands by road.
After we went home from Italy I got doubts about the length.
A huge hydraulic platform made the boat a lot longer.
Called the marina and talked about my doubts and they said 1/2 meter longer no problem. Oké maybe it will be oké. But somehow it kept spinning in my head, called the previous owner and let him measure exactly. LOA was 17.65 meter.
Wtf lol. I printed out a satellite layout from the marina and made a paper boat and when should dock in our slip the boat would stick out more then 2 meters.
Crosswise on the other side of our slip there is a docking place for day or weekend by passers that in high season many times lay double. That means when we wanne go out cruising that all boats on that dock have to go away, else we can’t get out. Then when we come back, late or in the night, we have to wake all the boats on the dock to go away so we can enter. No way this will be a relax slip.

Since it was our own fold (slip size was known), we didn’t received much cash back. We are now back at our ‘home’ marina. Lots of space, we know lots of people, many facilities, etc. We made a 5 year contract Of 4K a year starting from 1-1-2020. (From august boat arrival till end of year 2019 free :)) and above all every available slip in harbor we may choose. So now we have berth in a 20 meter slip in one of the best harbors on the lake.

bottom line of this story: specs sheets LOA measurements are many times incorrect and that can cost you a lot of money......ouch lol
 
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Rzide said:
I am getting ready to pay for my yearly dock fee with the new boat, 1999 400 sundancer. The club i'm at requires an actual measurement of the boat. I did my best to measure from the edge of the swim platform to the tip of the bow pulpit, by myself on land mind you.

I came up with about 47ft on the nose. This seems way long to me. Can anyone confirm or advise better, I just feel like maybe I measured wrong.

Thanks.
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According to the SeaRay achieve page it's LOA 44' 4" What does the Registration say? Just curious

To Me that LOA is a rip off my marina I Pay what's on the Reg.
 
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Express 390 said:
According to the SeaRay achieve page it's LOA 44' 4" What does the Registration say? Just curious

To Me that LOA is a rip off my marina I Pay what's on the Reg.
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And the other big rip off is the Marina that won't let you work on your own boat:mad:
 
This is why I thought long and hard about putting the letters "THREE FORTY" on the side of my boat instead of "FOUR HUNDRED". Are they really going to measure it? ha.

:)
 
400DA's don't have a pulpit, and Sea Ray's "spec sheets" are notoriously incorrect, so I'm curious about this. I might drape some lines off the boat while she's in storage and do some measuring. I might even creep over to a 450 to measure the beam.
 
Can you get to the boat? Easiest way I can think of to measure is to drop a plumb bob from the end points to the ground. Then make lines on the ground to one side and measure in between the marks. Same for the beam if you need it.

I feel rather lucky about my marina now. They're going by the "name" of the boat vs. the actual length. The 270 Amberjack was 30' long; I was charged for 27'. The Back Cove 34 is 37.5' long; I'm being charged for 34'. Last year I brought the BC 34 to the slip mid-season and proactively asked about the mid-season upcharge. The owner said he'd "get around to billing us the difference". He never did - I paid the 27' rate all year. I will admit that this year's slip bill was more than I expected for the 34. I was supposed to be charged a minimum of 30' for the slip. Unbeknownst to me they had only been charging me for the 27'. Saved $300 a year. Plus I can do any work I want on the boat, except bottom painting.
 
Jus the two of us said:
What kind of marina won't let you work on tour boat. I would not be boating if that was the case for us. That would suck!!
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Quite a few, actually. Some will let you do work yourself, but won't allow you to bring in any outside vendor; you must use their services or associate services. Such as a canvas guy, or lettering guy, engine work, etc, etc. They make a percentage from other vendors.
 
My side tie dock property is 50’ long. My 410 takes up more than 45’ of it with the anchor sticking out.
I’ve backed in to a couple of 14’ wide transient slips and they were tight.
 
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