Trump Flag conundrum

Soulshine said:
When you’re right you’re right. See above.
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That's the best you got? I could care less about "the wall." It was always a long shot given that the Republicrats want illegal immigration too. But he is re-purposing many sections with newly rebuild "walls."

I don't want "liberal" justices on the Supreme Court. They are un-elected and serve for life. They can do and have done untold damage to the country. I want Justices who show restraint and would rather have Congress and the President deal with issues legislatively.

Don't care about his bankruptcies and contractors. Business is a risk. Everyone knows that. Outcomes aren't guaranteed. I guess that's why liberals hate business.

Everything is made in China. I send out China made promotional products because that's where the chit is made. That's just the result of bought and paid for politicians who agreed to these deals that sold the USA down the river.
 
PlayDate said:
Nope....just proved the point that TDS is an incurable illness. Personally, I will stick with the guy who:

-Put the right people on the Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution ....not rewrite it.
-Knows that Business drives prosperity in the US and raises everyone's standard of living.
-Keeps the Media in their place.
-Knows more about the economy than any President in US history.
-Negotiates better Trade Deals
-Has put more money into the Military than Obama.
-Getting the Military home from Syria and out of Afghanistan by Election Day.

I get that the illness is triggered by how he communicates and acts. There are times I cringe when he says or does things I wouldn't say or do.

However, results matter. I am far more impressed with his accomplishments than Clinton, Bush or Obama. For that....I am willing to watch others get triggered and complain about deflection and other nonsense.
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And opinions are like assholes, everyone has one...…..:D
 
A lot of trump flags on B and C docks and in crews nest. I was a bit surprised to be honest

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ttmott said:
Also -
Money (US dollars) is worth more, much more, circulating in the public sector. Money is worth far less when the federal government intercepts then distributes. For anyone to say the private sector needs to be taxed more and the government will redistribute to level the paying field is not doing so in the interest of the American public; anyone in the public.
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Great point. The best example of mismanaged redistribution of wealth by the Feds are the 40 states who perennially receive more from the US Government than they pay in Federal taxes and fees. Here is how we can start to correct it. Let's limit amount of Federal monies returned to each state by the Federal Government to what the taxpayers of that state paid into the US Treasury. That could include not only direct aid to states, but also a cap on Federal contracts granted to residents and businesses residing of those states. Those of us in the ten, or so, "Donor States" that have historically paid more into the Treasury every year than they have received over the past forty years would like to see the rest of the country pulling it's share of the load.
 
Henry Boyd said:
Great point. The best example of mismanaged redistribution of wealth by the Feds are the 40 states who perennially receive more from the US Government than they pay in Federal taxes and fees. Here is how we can start to correct it. Let's limit amount of Federal monies returned to each state by the Federal Government to what the taxpayers of that state paid into the US Treasury. That could include not only direct aid to states, but also a cap on Federal contracts granted to residents and businesses residing of those states. Those of us in the ten, or so, "Donor States" that have historically paid more into the Treasury every year than they have received over the past forty years would like to see the rest of the country pulling it's share of the load.
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Our governor considers payroll taxes (social security & Medicare) paid by employers and employees as some of what “he” sends to the federal government. Then he factors in that once people retire and move to another state and collect their social security benefits and sign up for Medicare they are collecting his money in another state so that state is getting his federal money.
He likes to give Florida as an example.
I view it differently.
Money that I put in to social security and Medicare as well as the money put in to those funds for the nearly 50 years I worked by my employers on my behalf has squat to do with Comrade Cuomo.
Rick Scott called him out on that BS math a few weeks ago and he has shied away from it since then.
I’ll give Cuomo the federal sales, income, corporate tax, etc., for his argument, but he is really reaching when he lumps social security and Medicare taxes in to the equation.
 
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Soulshine said:
Exactly the deflection I set you up for.



So what? What if I told you that I was a registered republican before 2016, but couldn’t pull the trigger on Trump because as someone who grew up in NYC I knew what he was.

Assuming that you were too, why didn’t you spitefully fly a Bush flag? Because it didn’t piss anyone off that’s why.

You’ve been sold a bill of goods by the biggest huckster since P.T. Barnum and continue peddling his crap for him with a level of enthusiasm that is hard to watch.

It would be nice if you’d address the points but from your position avoiding them is much easier.
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I hesitate to argue because there is no up side. Im not trying to persuade anyone because I believe in liberty and freedom. You believe what you like its okay with me. I was merely pointing out that both parties use the same tactics of dis and misinformation to advance their agenda. The Dems are just pissed because unlike the republican presidents of the past that adhered to decorum of the highest office and turned the other cheek every time the mainstream media slandered them, Donald J Trump hits back and goes low because that is what it takes these days. Finally we have a president that brings a knife to a knife fight instead of a rule book.
Lighten up a little, untuck your panties and enjoy the next four years of Trump and then as recent history has shown, the Dems will get to have the office for eight years.
It’s obvious that whoever actually runs the country has this as the plan otherwise they would have dumped Sleepy Joe along time ago and kept one of the other candidates viable.
We are all just having fun here on the forum, I for one don’t need to offend anyone to make myself feel good.
Carpe Diem
 
JVM225 said:
Our governor considers payroll taxes (social security & Medicaid) paid by employers and employees as some of what “he” sends to the federal government. Then he factors in that once people retire and move to another state and collect their social security benefits and sign up for Medicaid they are collecting his money in another state so that state is getting his federal money.
He likes to give Florida as an example.
I view it differently.
Money that I put in to social security and Medicaid as well as the money put in to those funds for the nearly 50 years I worked by my employers on my behalf has squat to do with Comrade Cuomo.
Rick Scott called him out on that BS math a few weeks ago and he has shied away from it since then.
I’ll give Cuomo the federal sales, income, corporate tax, etc., for his argument, but he is really reaching when he lumps social security and Medicare taxes in to the equation.
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Both SS and Medicare are systems where current benefits are in a sense funded by current payroll contributions, so people moving out of state after retiring is an irrelevant statistic. Regardless, the balance of payments analysis does highlight that federal tax distributions are a flawed process. And does make the case some form of federal assistance to the states is in order as many of the hardest hit states are in the donor group.
 
Soulshine said:
Exactly the deflection I set you

So what? What if I told you that I was a registered republican before 2016, but couldn’t pull the trigger on Trump because as someone who grew up in NYC I knew what he was.

Assuming that you were too, why didn’t you spitefully fly a Bush flag? Because it didn’t piss anyone off that’s why.

You’ve been sold a bill of goods by the biggest huckster since P.T. Barnum and continue peddling his crap for him with a level of enthusiasm that is hard to watch.

It would be nice if you’d address the points but from your position avoiding them is much easier.
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What makes you the expert on this?
 
Soulshine said:
The very fact that the term TDS has been coined indicates a problem so big it can’t even be seen.

A classic illusionist’s trick...distract your audience from seeing reality so that they only see the falsehood that you want them too.

Say something over and over until it becomes the truth.

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Eventually people are trained and wearing silly red hats and flying flags in honor of things few of them are capable of comprehending for the sole purpose of aggravating those that do.

A friend of mine gave his 10 year old son a flag depicting Trump as Rambo holding a machine gun on which was written “NO MORE BULLSHIT”.

Nice lesson for an up and coming young man. I felt shame for both of them.
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How did your friend respond when you told him how stupid he was and that he was doing a poor job of parenting?
 
This thread is now a dead horse.

The Covidiots are up in arms because the economy is already recovering, the stock market has skyrocketed, and The Trumpster has his foot on the neck of Chyyna!

Had the economy continued to slide and the Chicoms surrounded Taiwan, and the Covidiots continued hiding inside their homes wearing double masks they’d all be clapping.

Fortunately for ‘merica Trump isn’t influenced by the Covidiots and commies. :D
 
El Capitan said:
This thread is now a dead horse.

The Covidiots are up in arms because the economy is already recovering, the stock market has skyrocketed, and The Trumpster has his foot on the neck of Chyyna!

Had the economy continued to slide and the Chicoms surrounded Taiwan, and the Covidiots continued hiding inside their homes wearing double masks they’d all be clapping.

Fortunately for ‘merica Trump isn’t influenced by the Covidiots and commies. :D
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Opinions are like assholes, even you have one Cabron:p
 
Henry Boyd said:
Both SS and Medicare are systems where current benefits are in a sense funded by current payroll contributions, so people moving out of state after retiring is an irrelevant statistic. Regardless, the balance of payments analysis does highlight that federal tax distributions are a flawed process. And does make the case some form of federal assistance to the states is in order as many of the hardest hit states are in the donor group.
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Social Security wasn’t supposed to be that way. It is that way now because the bank we deposited our money in to loaned it all out to the federal government as fast as we put it in so now they need to take funds from new depositors to cover our withdrawals.
That’s what happens when politicians get their hands in to something. They turn it to shit!
As a lifelong resident of the hardest hit state, I think that the federal government should help out with actual Covid related expenses and revenue losses after a strict and thorough audit.
NY politicians are notoriously corrupt and have been for generations.
The feds have been locking up plenty of them for corruption over the last decade or so. They almost got Cuomo himself, but it stopped short at his right hand man.
If you get hit by a bus here and they can find someone who heard you cough within the last few months they aren’t above classifying it as a Covid Death.
He appointed the Moreland Commission to look at corruption and disbanded it when it got too close to home
I don’t think the federal government should bail out NY for the 6.1 billion they we’re already in the hole before anyone heard of Covid, and they shouldn’t let the NY Politicians pull the wool over their eyes and fund endless lines of cronies and relatives for politically appointed “Covid Related” positions.
I’d really scrutinize anything that NYC claims is Covid related losses or expenses. The current Mayor famously funnels taxpayer money to cronies and donors for studies, panels, advisory positions, etc.. He funneled over 800 million through his wife for Thrive NYC and she can’t account for what she did with any of the money she spent so far.
 
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JVM225 said:
Social Security wasn’t supposed to be that way. It is that way now because the bank we deposited our money in to loaned it all out to the federal government as fast as we put it in so now they need to take funds from new depositors to cover our withdrawals.
That’s what happens when politicians get their hands in to something. They turn it to shit!
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Not correct - It was the Johnson Administration that created the "unified budget" in 1968 that made fare game of all federal monies through a singular accounting system. There were never separate "funds" or accounts. The federal budget was previously managed separately via accounting across the board until the "unified budget" was created.
It is the fault of the annual budget outlay in which the SS dollars began to deplete. The blame can be shouldered on every representative and congress person.
As an edit - with the "unified budget" concept all of the pools of monies dedicated to causes now fall into a slush fund ripe for the picking. And, they did exactly that....
 
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ttmott said:
Not correct - It was the Johnson Administration that created the "unified budget" in 1968 that made fare game of all federal monies through a singular accounting system. There were never separate "funds" or accounts. The federal budget was previously managed separately via accounting across the board until the "unified budget" was created.
It is the fault of the annual budget outlay in which the SS dollars began to deplete. The blame can be shouldered on every representative and congress person.
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Absolutely! You’re spot on!
They’re all to blame and neither side is to be trusted.
Social Security started as a good idea, and then the politicians figured out a way to get their mitts on it with some hocus pocus and kick the bill down the road.
I wish I would have been allowed to put my contributions and my employer contributions in to an IRA for all those decades. I would be getting a much bigger check today.
What’s really amazing is that half the country thinks it’s a good idea to put the federal government in charge of even more stuff involving money, including healthcare.
Looking back at the last 66 years I’ve been on this earth, I’m hard pressed to think of anything involving funds that the federal government hasn’t mismanaged or corrupted.
 
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You can start w FDR and the New Deal. That fu*@$d everything up from that point forward.

That and the creation of the Federal Reserve and moving the dollar off the Gold standard.

We now have a fiat banking system and fiat currency.
 
susanandlance said:
Almost the whole post
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OK, Lance, you made a wide generalization about Play Date's post. I copied it and pasted it below so you can address each of his points. Up to this point all you have done is try smear tactics. Now is the time for you to sh!t or get off the fence.

Play Date's post:
"Nope....just proved the point that TDS is an incurable illness. Personally, I will stick with the guy who:

-Put the right people on the Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution ....not rewrite it.
-Knows that Business drives prosperity in the US and raises everyone's standard of living.
-Keeps the Media in their place.
-Knows more about the economy than any President in US history.
-Negotiates better Trade Deals
-Has put more money into the Military than Obama.
-Getting the Military home from Syria and out of Afghanistan by Election Day.

I get that the illness is triggered by how he communicates and acts. There are times I cringe when he says or does things I wouldn't say or do.

However, results matter. I am far more impressed with his accomplishments than Clinton, Bush or Obama. For that....I am willing to watch others get triggered and complain about deflection and other nonsense."

Go for it Lance, we're waiting.
 
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