The truth about wearing a mask -finally

Blueone said:
My cancer hospital just banned cloth masks.... you have to wear paper to get in
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Ohoh
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MonacoMike said:
They and a bunch of their friends still think they are part of some kind of counterculture from the 60s. They can’t even fathom that they are just parroting from the powers that be, they are not asking for truth from the power. Being good little foot soldiers they come after us because we disagree with their orthodoxies from the powers that guide them.

It was hysterical sometime back one of them told me that I was just parroting what I was being told. LOL! They cannot reason out that voices like ours are questioning those exerting power. Who the heck is telling us what to say? I believe that shoe fits on the other foot, when the government, government paid scientists, and media are all on the same team.
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So you were a member of the counterculture of the 60's? No offense, but your line is pure antiestablishmentarianism
(never thought I would have to type that out). You seem to be coming at it from the right as opposed to the left, but isn't it really the same thing?
 
alnav said:
So you were a member of the counterculture of the 60's? No offense, but your line is pure antiestablishmentarianism
(never thought I would have to type that out). You seem to be coming at it from the right as opposed to the left, but isn't it really the same thing?
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If you have a left-wing government wouldn’t the questioning come from people to the right of that government?
 
Iprof said:
You should have started your post once upon a time. Masks and social distancing are not over the top. They have proven that they work
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The masks may have served a purpose, months ago. But now with the knowledge the the virus just isn't that lethal, and the vast majority of the population are not in any danger, it is time to make all of the social distancing and mask wearing voluntary and not mandated. Publish guidelines, inform the most vulnerable, and let them take the measures they deem necessary. The rest of us are going to be fine, without the masks. Why is this so hard to understand?
 
MonacoMike said:
If you have a left-wing government wouldn’t the questioning come from people to the right of that government?
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I don't think it matters. The far left always thinks the government is to the right, the far right thinks the government is leftist.
 
PeteL said:
The masks may have served a purpose, months ago. But now with the knowledge the the virus just isn't that lethal, and the vast majority of the population are not in any danger, it is time to make all of the social distancing and mask wearing voluntary and not mandated. Publish guidelines, inform the most vulnerable, and let them take the measures they deem necessary. The rest of us are going to be fine, without the masks. Why is this so hard to understand?
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The virus remains quite lethal, still five times or more than the worst flu. Perhaps that will get better but I suspect masking and social distancing will be with us for quite some time under certain circumstances like indoors where there are lots of people. The good news is that neither measure necessarily incurs economic impact. As has been said, we have learned to carry on with both.
 
alnav said:
The virus remains quite lethal, still five times or more than the worst flu. Perhaps that will get better but I suspect masking and social distancing will be with us for quite some time under certain circumstances like indoors where there are lots of people. The good news is that neither measure necessarily incurs economic impact. As has been said, we have learned to carry on with both.
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Maybe not?
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/did-who-just-accidentally-confirm-covid-no-more-dangerous-flu
 
alnav said:
The virus remains quite lethal, still five times or more than the worst flu. Perhaps that will get better but I suspect masking and social distancing will be with us for quite some time under certain circumstances like indoors where there are lots of people. The good news is that neither measure necessarily incurs economic impact. As has been said, we have learned to carry on with both.
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By what measure are you saying this is up to 5x more lerthal than the flu? And why do we need to compare it to the flu. Look at the numbers as reported by our CDC. That show lethality by demographics of people who had COVID. We have a very clear picture of who is vulnerable, and shoud take precautions, and those who most very likely do not. Why can't we flip the response, based on this information, and place the burden of protection on those who actually need it? This blanket response has outlived its purpose. Or, maybe you really like living in fear, behind the mask.
 
Golfman25 said:
Yeah. You forgot this little gem:

"In settings where masks are given out, like a cruise ship, where they had an outbreak and didn’t let the poor people off the ship, but gave them masks, the rate of asymptomatic infection rose. In an Argentinian cruise ship, that rate was 81 percent. In the meat-processing plants in our country, we had a lot of severe illnesses at the beginning. People were getting sick because it’s a closed environment. When they mandated masking in an Oregon seafood-processing plant, they had a rate of asymptomatic infection with outbreaks of 95 percent. It might seem like a contradiction, but a rise in infection rates is not a terrible thing. Masking and reducing the viral inoculum, getting less severe disease, resulting in more people having asymptomatic infection, is a good outcome. You want to drive down the number of people who get sick."

Isn't that what is happening in the US. More cases, less severe.
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I didn't forget it at all and agree completely.
 
New analysis from the CDC Weekly Report
Trends in COVID-19 Incidence After Implementation of Mitigation Measures — Arizona, January 22–August 7, 2020
"The number of COVID-19 cases in Arizona stabilized and then decreased after sustained implementation and enforcement of statewide and locally enhanced mitigation measures, beginning approximately 2 weeks after implementation and enforcement of mask mandates and enhanced sanitations practices began on June 17; further decreases were observed during July 13–August 7, after statewide limitations and closures of certain services and businesses."
"Widespread implementation and enforcement of sustained community mitigation measures, including mask wearing, informed by state and local officials’ continual data monitoring and collaboration can help prevent transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and decrease the numbers of COVID-19 cases."

Selected community mitigation measures and COVID-19 case counts and 7-day moving averages — Arizona, January 22–August 7, 2020

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6940e3.htm?s_cid=mm6940e3_w
 
Dr. David Nabarro from the WHO appealed to world leaders yesterday, telling them to stop “using lockdowns as your primary control method” of the coronavirus.

He also claimed that the only thing lockdowns achieved was poverty – with no mention of the potential lives saved.

“Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer,” he said.

Coronavirus: WHO backflips on virus stance by condemning lockdowns
https://amp.news.com.au/world/coron...s/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74
 
CDC: 85% of COVID-19 patients report ‘always’ or ‘often’ wearing a mask. Americans are wearing masks, but masks aren't working.
 
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