Really? Sometimes I just shake my head!

My Kenyon grill is about as well secured. 2 sheet metal screws that get some purchase in the holes through the counter top, 2 sheet metal screws that just spin.

I cleaned up no small amount of sawdust and other build garbage when I swapped my cabin fridge out. I'm sure lots of hidden areas are like this. Part of me doesn't care and expects it, some of the voids are never seen ever after they are closed up. Part of me thinks that this is corner cutting reflected much more broadly in build quality.
 
CaptRonn said:
When a company has a culture of "maximum profit" over QA, this is a result. Let's not kid ourselves, these are high ticket items. Would consumers pay top dollar for a $300,000 automobile that had shoddy workmanship? Or $500,000 for a new Robinson Helicopter that had covered up crappy workmanship?

Of course not. But the recreational boating industry has the "get it out the door and sold" mentality and hopes they never see it again.

And for the record, I'm not singling out SR, it's evident in other brands as well.
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MY QUOTE “if they built cars like they build boats there would be a congressional investigation”
 
Not to down play that but heck that's nothing. I had a transom cutout so bad the bolt had the shank exposed partially when it went through the transom. It looked like take your kid to work day and dad took a smoke break so jr decided to try his hand at cutouts. I was pissed and wanted to send the boat back to the factory for them to repair but figured it had been that way for that long so I said screw it and mounted the new one and forgot about it. Funny thing was I remembered seeing the pr photo of a computer guided machine making the cutouts on the website talking about quality. Hmmm guess that was all bullshit cause there is no way that was done with that machine unless the computer had a stroke. Blue screen of death maybe.....idk. Just saying....
 
Had a lot of the same kind of annoying issues on both our boats. I wish I could go to the factory and talk with some of these guys there. Our 40DA, when new, sold for almost $600,000. Is it really too much to ask that you vacuum up after yourselves? WTF?!?!
 
DWABoat said:
One of my previous boats was a 1999 Bayliner.
Let’s talk about quality control!!
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Amen ..I had an ‘03 Bayliner 245 before the 340. It was a total POS. Underpowered, leaked, and rode like s$&t. Nothing but problems. Felt like driving a boat made of origami paper compared to to my 340.
 
CaptRonn said:
Huge difference between Bayliner small boats and their yacht line. Built in different factories, and the Bayliner yachts were built extremely well.
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Ive heard and seen this in a friend’s Bayliner 45. Unfortunately owning the 245 ruined anything Bayliner for me ever. Just left a bad taste that won’t go away. That said, I could probably wrap my head around a big Meridian one of these days.
 
gerryb said:
Had a lot of the same kind of annoying issues on both our boats. I wish I could go to the factory and talk with some of these guys there. Our 40DA, when new, sold for almost $600,000. Is it really too much to ask that you vacuum up after yourselves? WTF?!?!
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You're not wrong, but the thinking might be that many enclosed spaces will never be opened again except in the case of extreme repairs or unusual modifications, so why spend time vacuuming up a small amount of shavings/saw dust?

It would not at all surprise me if as well that a policy of "zero tolerance" for shavings/dust becomes real labor costs. For one, the guy has to stop what he's doing and actually do the vacuuming. Could be that the step he performed makes the vacuuming harder (obstructed space, limited access), so it's a 5 minute deal. And then the question is, did he have immediate access to the vacuum? Does he have to hunt down a vacuum? Does the plant buy 20 extra vacuums or install a plant-wide central vacuum so access is quick? Suddenly the vacuuming step is 5 to 30 minutes depending on how easy access to a vacuum is, and whether on his hunt for vacuum if he stops to talk fishing with another guy or decides a smoke break is in order.

IMHO, the vacuuming/debris is easier to understand as a potentially colossal pain for a production process trying to keep labor and equipment costs down.

Less easier to accept is something like my Kenyon grill being attached to crudely drilled holes somebody stuck a machine screw into. Really, no hollow hole anchor or some other socketing for the screw? I've had my grill completely removed at least three times (defective original element replacement, further troubleshooting a year later when it tripped its breaker, and then to get access to the pump out fitting backside when the pumpout hose has to be replaced).
 
FastMarkA said:
Good craftsmanship happens regardless of one's native language.

SR's QC practices are to blame here (probably white dudes speaking English, btw).
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I purchased a BMW 735i in 1992. Drove it till 2018 had 295,xxx. The people who built it indeed did not speak English as a first language but my assertion in the context of US manufacturing labor hiring practices was an $8 hr illegal alien.
The Euros I know all speak multiple languages, including English. Not the case south of the border.
 
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