Raymarine to Garmin

If you don't have anything other than the c80 and it doesn't have its own transducer, your going to n2k anyway so just convert the vv. Then everything will work. If you have a Northstar 100 I'm sure the cord is rotten so you'll need to replace that too. No need to stay with anything 0183. If you have a sounder modual you need to use then that would be an exception.

I think if he orders the xsv (?) model it has a built in sounder. I didn’t replace our VHFs this year with the other stuff. Are they now available with N2K instead of 0183?
 
I think if he orders the xsv (?) model it has a built in sounder. I didn’t replace our VHFs this year with the other stuff. Are they now available with N2K instead of 0183?
Yes, 0183 is the old standard. Everything now is n2k. There are still some that are backwards compatible. You should really have a vhf with dsc for safety reasons also.
 
Yes, 0183 is the old standard. Everything now is n2k. There are still some that are backwards compatible. You should really have a vhf with dsc for safety reasons also.

The VHFs have DSC and checked out fine, so we didn’t replace them with the rest of the upgrade project.
 
If you don't have anything other than the c80 and it doesn't have its own transducer, your going to n2k anyway so just convert the vv. Then everything will work. If you have a Northstar 100 I'm sure the cord is rotten so you'll need to replace that too. No need to stay with anything 0183. If you have a sounder modual you need to use then that would be an exception.
Correct, just a C80 without its own transducer. That’s coming through the starboard engine smartcraft harness. If the early VV is read only, there must be a data share because I see depth on the C80 and time to waypoint and estimated fuel burns and fuel remaining on the VV. Interestingly the Northstar cord and handset are in perfect condition, PO never even had it hooked up as was on a landlocked fresh water lake.
 
I would do what @dtfeld described. It's really the only way to know what you have and where to start. As mentioned you probably have all Seatalk which is not directly compatible with NMEA 0183. Then there is SeatalkNG which is a hybrid of Seatalk and NMEA 2000, the SeatalkNG cable has the Seatalk yellow wire in it as well. So if you need to convert to NMEA 2000 Raymarines converter(E22158) will capture both Seatalk and SeatalkNG properly and with another adapter cable can be bridged to NMEA 2000 directly. The thing with Raymarine is they have tried very hard not to be compatible with anyone. If your going with Garmin you will need to get it all to NMEA 2000. This only gets the Raymarine network to NMEA 2000, the VV/SC is yet another converter as mentioned above.
And Raymarine's propensity to change connector configurations every generation. Gotta have an adapter for everything. One of the reasons I moved away from them.
 
I think if he orders the xsv (?) model it has a built in sounder. I didn’t replace our VHFs this year with the other stuff. Are they now available with N2K instead of 0183?
The 943xsv actually has the ability to connect with 0183 networks or devices. I didn’t articulate it well in my first post but as others have suggested I’m trying to move toward a totally 2000 setup. Certainly I’ll have the major components networked through that and then as we change out or add accessories I’m hoping that’ll simplify things.
 
And Raymarine's propensity to change connector configurations every generation. Gotta have an adapter for everything. One of the reasons I moved away from them.

If I only knew then what I do now, I would have gone to Garmin. Raymarine is sufficient and build a solid product offfering, but Garmin I think is a step ahead in a lot of areas. No doubt they are they are todays marine electronics market leader.
 
I stayed with Raymarine when I did our upgrade even though I was leaning heavily towards Garmin. The were two factors: 1 we had a 4’ hd radar array that was still good, and 2 the Garmin autopilot for the Volvo IPS system was about 6k and the RM unit was 2.3k. Autopilots for pod systems are basically an interface board with software and some wires, so 6k struck me as ridiculously high. That aside, the Garmin parts bill including a new radar and Garmin AP would have been 18k vs 12k.

I don’t have any regrets as the Axiom 12 pros are outstanding.
 
@Henryboyd

I don't have any regrets staying with Raymarine based on my decision making starting back in 2018. My Axiom 12 with the Quantum 2 Doppler radar and the Evolution AP is outstanding!!

Were is gets interesting is the integration with other things like Fusion marine stereos and onboards lighting...Garmin is making that aspect easier by either buying those companies or partnering. They seem to get all the little cool stuff a couple months earlier, and the implementation seems better.

What I am saying is if I were starting a retrofitting today, Garmin would be my choice.
 
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@Henryboyd

I don't have any regrets staying with Raymarine based on my decision making starting back in 2018. My Axiom 12 with the Quantum 2 Doppler radar and the Evolution AP is outstanding!!

Were is gets interesting is the integration with other things like Fusion marine stereos and onboards lighting...Garmin is making that aspect easier by either buying those companies or partnering. They seem to get all the little cool stuff a couple months earlier, and the implementation seems better.

What I am saying is if I were starting a retrofitting today, Garmin would be my choice.

I guess I’m of the same opinion, even with the difference in AP costs. But I was faced with that and an array that was too good to scrap.

I put a 7608 on for an engine display because Garmin supplies these to Volvo with custom software for Volvo’s ‘Glass Cockpit’. I did that to replace the original Volvo display that went south. In comparison to the E120Ws I inherited the 7608 was way ahead.

The 7608 stayed, and happily coexists with the newer Axiom Pros with the n2k connected to STNG. Besides installing a n2k network interface on the gen, I also plan tie the Fusion into the STNG network with RM blue/black branch cable if I can find one with the proper device net connector.
 
One of these should fix ya...

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@Henry Boyd and @dtfeld No doubt Raymarine is a quality product. I just wish they had been more user friendly in that they don't allow end users to configure digital switching and a few other things. I just don't see the logic in that. Garmin allows almost anything to an extent, but they have great support in there products for digital switching.
 
I guess I’m of the same opinion, even with the difference in AP costs. But I was faced with that and an array that was too good to scrap.

I put a 7608 on for an engine display because Garmin supplies these to Volvo with custom software for Volvo’s ‘Glass Cockpit’. I did that to replace the original Volvo display that went south. In comparison to the E120Ws I inherited the 7608 was way ahead.

The 7608 stayed, and happily coexists with the newer Axiom Pros with the n2k connected to STNG. Besides installing a n2k network interface on the gen, I also plan tie the Fusion into the STNG network with RM blue/black branch cable if I can find one with the proper device net connector.

@Henry Boyd the 7608 has great NMEA 2000 screens that can be configured for the Generator. If you have AC data on the N2K you can create a very nice generator screen. I did the same with mine.
 
Or these...just saw this..

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Or these...just saw this.. ...

Yes, that's the part number that I mentioned above. That will do it exactly for the Raymarine aspect and allow N2k bridging with one of the cables you posted.

I love Panbo dot com. Such a great site and Ben is a great guy. He also host's the US Yacht Devices site. Super helpful, just like Jim's group at BOE Marine.
 
Or these...just saw this..

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That’s the ticket. There is a buss bar at the forward end of our STNG network connecting the EV-2 AP. With what I have in the spare and recycled parts collection all I need is one of the blue/black cables to connect the fusion.
 
Nope the blue/black is the SeatalkNG backbone cable, you need to take a black/while SeatalkNG cable that converts to NMEA 2000, like the ones Dave posted. They need to come from that converter or a separate spur tee.

Wouldn’t a device net tee on the end of the blue black cable suggest it also handles n2k?
 
Wouldn’t a device net tee on the end of the blue black cable suggest it also handles n2k?

Ah, the adapter cable. Sorry yes it would. Missed that pic, Deleted other post ...

EDIT: I had tried to order those cables A80675/4 from anchor express and they said they were not available yet even though they are listed on their website for sale.
 
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I guess I’m of the same opinion, even with the difference in AP costs. But I was faced with that and an array that was too good to scrap.

I put a 7608 on for an engine display because Garmin supplies these to Volvo with custom software for Volvo’s ‘Glass Cockpit’. I did that to replace the original Volvo display that went south. In comparison to the E120Ws I inherited the 7608 was way ahead.

The 7608 stayed, and happily coexists with the newer Axiom Pros with the n2k connected to STNG. Besides installing a n2k network interface on the gen, I also plan tie the Fusion into the STNG network with RM blue/black branch cable if I can find one with the proper device net connector.
Henry, which Fusion device will you be installing? Depending on the model, you could connect to your Garmin via ethernet (Garmin Network). That might save you a NMEA 2000 node. It will also convey album art. Once connected, it would be interesting to see if the Garmin then would then send/receive the stereo data to the your NMEA 2000 network. Just a thought.
 
Henry, which Fusion device will you be installing? Depending on the model, you could connect to your Garmin via ethernet (Garmin Network). That might save you a NMEA 2000 node. It will also convey album art. Once connected, it would be interesting to see if the Garmin then would then send/receive the stereo data to the your NMEA 2000 network. Just a thought.

It’s an AV-755 we already have. It’s a new wiring avoidance thing. The EV-2 autopilot at the end of the STNG wiring is basically analogous to a flux gate compass in function so it’s located forward buried in a wall structure that separates the salon area from the forward stateroom. The TVs as well as the stereo are also located there. So now I can create a device net n2k section there for the fusion (and anything else). I also have a n2k section on the other end of the STNG that’s connected to the Volvo EVC network that encompasses engines, pods, and fuel tanks. On that end I’m planning to extend to the gen when I sort out the Onan internals.

The Ethernet situation is confused, the boat is pretty much WiFi with the Glomex antenna functioning as incoming internet source (marina WiFi or cell data) that routes it to the fusion (internet radio), Apple TV’s as well as the phones and iPads. The Axioms and 7608 also have their access. I’ve tried downloading to them with the Glomex antenna for software updates with little success, going to SD card first seems more reliable.
 
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