58 Sedan Bridge Official Thread

Thanks @bmac !! I want to run a few engine room camera wires up to the helm - maybe I can intercept that conduit somewhere in the port side ER where it would run “upstairs” near the aft end of the port fuel tank.
I’d like to do the same thing what cameras are you considering.
 
Thanks @bmac !! I want to run a few engine room camera wires up to the helm - maybe I can intercept that conduit somewhere in the port side ER where it would run “upstairs” near the aft end of the port fuel tank.

There is a bundle of wires running up from above fuel tank to there. Not the easiest to get in there with the exhausts right in the way. I got close enough to be able to take some measurements, but actually working in there will require a helper as you need to be gumby to get in and out and would be a nightmare if you forgot a tool or dropped something.
 
The location you identified above is exactly where mine is at. Furthermore, that wire conduit has an orange pull-wire on mine to fish more wires back. The only problem is that I have no idea where the other end of the conduit comes out (aft somewhere)?

I wish I had a pull wire!

I may try a fish that I have and see if I can get it through to under the electrical panel.
 
I wish I had a pull wire!

I may try a fish that I have and see if I can get it through to under the electrical panel.
Can’t promise you this will work, but I’ve heard tying a cotton ball on a lightweight kite string and using a shop vac on the other end might be worth a try?
 
Can’t promise you this will work, but I’ve heard tying a cotton ball on a lightweight kite string and using a shop vac on the other end might be worth a try?

For a smooth conduit I can confirm that trick works, or variations using a sandwich bag etc.

Unfortunately this is corrugated, slit wire cover.
 
Finally getting toward finishing up winterization... so the boat was hauled yesterday for winter storage on the hard.... and serious inspections of shafts and rudders, rudder bearings, cutless bearings, thru-hulls, etc. plus another transducer installation, all in prep for next season...

The Owners Manual mentions a bilge drain plug (Section 8.1.Summary Guide), a hull drain plug (8.5.A and 8.6.C), and a transom drain plug (10.A.General.2). No mention in the Parts Manual... but I suspect these are all the same, yes?

And where are they/is it really? What's it look like? What tool to remove (socket? allen key? other?)

-Chris
 
For a smooth conduit I can confirm that trick works, or variations using a sandwich bag etc.

Unfortunately this is corrugated, slit wire cover.
Hmmm… I knew it was corrugated but I was not aware it was slit. That would make it impossible to run a fish wire through it too…. Thankfully mine has a pull wire already in place.
 
@ranger58sb no drain plugs on my boat at all.

@tc410 - yep its not going to be fun. I have an old sailboat shroud I use as a fish, I am hoping it works, if Not I will find the path it follows somehow! I want to get n2k network to there anyway for tank monitoring as well as water line for a future water maker.
 
Here's another question. Also discovered last week that my starboard battery tray is not secured to the floor. I REALLY don't want to have to remove the batteries, but may have to get to the screws/bolts that secure the tray. Does anyone know how that tray (including the raised platform made of starboard) are attached to the bilge?
 
When I had my new electronics installed I added engine room cameras and a new transducer and fairing block installed. Both needed wiring from the bilge to the bridge. The installer used a fish wire from the port bridge access panel DOWN to the bilge above and aft of the port fuel tank. He did a lot of up/down twisting and turning to get the fish through the rats nest of wires in that chase. Glad I hired a professional for that install. Even he used lots of foul language that day
 
A quick FYI I was giving my swim platform a workout the other day since I haven’t been using it and one of the steel braided hydraulic lines developed a pin hole leak. I tried calling GHS but they did not answer the phone or respond so I reached out to Florida bow thruster and they said they can get me a whole new set of 6 hydraulic lines 4-30” 2-27” one for $1150. I though this price sounded absurd so I sent an email inquiry to GHS and they just returned my call and will be able to get me the same hydraulic lines for $530. Given the fact that Florida bow thruster was getting these lines directly from GHS and they would be dropped shipped from them I found it quite absurd that they would mark them up over 100%. I guess this is the crazy boating world we live in I hope others can learn from this experience.
 
A quick FYI I was giving my swim platform a workout the other day since I haven’t been using it and one of the steel braided hydraulic lines developed a pin hole leak. I tried calling GHS but they did not answer the phone or respond so I reached out to Florida bow thruster and they said they can get me a whole new set of 6 hydraulic lines 4-30” 2-27” one for $1150. I though this price sounded absurd so I sent an email inquiry to GHS and they just returned my call and will be able to get me the same hydraulic lines for $530. Given the fact that Florida bow thruster was getting these lines directly from GHS and they would be dropped shipped from them I found it quite absurd that they would mark them up over 100%. I guess this is the crazy boating world we live in I hope others can learn from this experience.
They are standard braided hydraulic hoses. I’ll bet you could get them off the internet for even less than GHS, but at least you saved major $$$ over buying them from FBT!
 
A quick FYI I was giving my swim platform a workout the other day since I haven’t been using it and one of the steel braided hydraulic lines developed a pin hole leak. I tried calling GHS but they did not answer the phone or respond so I reached out to Florida bow thruster and they said they can get me a whole new set of 6 hydraulic lines 4-30” 2-27” one for $1150. I though this price sounded absurd so I sent an email inquiry to GHS and they just returned my call and will be able to get me the same hydraulic lines for $530. Given the fact that Florida bow thruster was getting these lines directly from GHS and they would be dropped shipped from them I found it quite absurd that they would mark them up over 100%. I guess this is the crazy boating world we live in I hope others can learn from this experience.

I would try Moreland Hose Aeroquip on Sunrise hwy. in Oakdale. They should be able to make them up for you. You would want to bring the old one so they can match it up………
 
I would try Moreland Hose Aeroquip on Sunrise hwy. in Oakdale. They should be able to make them up for you. You would want to bring the old one so they can match it up………
Boats in Florida now or that’s where I would of went. I’m going to buy the originals from GHS and take the old ones to a hydraulic shop to have a set of spares made. I was told by GHS they recommend replacing those hoses every 3 years.
 
FENDER BASKETS

I pulsed Sea Ray, who told me they just considered transom storage to be the solution. And I guess I could explore that too, given we usually hang the things mid-way between bow and stern...

But does anyone have a good lead to decent fender baskets that might install/hang elegantly on the bow rails somewhere?

-Chris
 
FENDER BASKETS

I pulsed Sea Ray, who told me they just considered transom storage to be the solution. And I guess I could explore that too, given we usually hang the things mid-way between bow and stern...

But does anyone have a good lead to decent fender baskets that might install/hang elegantly on the bow rails somewhere?

-Chris
Chris,

it’s not the most glamorous solution, but it works very well for Susan - we space them out on the gunwale horizontally, tied to the rail at both ends. Then Susan can quickly drop them over the side horizontally for a pole, or quickly untie one end and adjust vertically for a raft up. She can set and adjust three in the time it would take her to get one out of the transom locker, and she easily handles the dreaded last minute - “ we have to go portside to now” radio call from me. She has no problem walking around them when stowed like this
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Thanks; I'll have to consult my deck crew (aka wifey, aka Admiral) about that. :)

Actually, for long distance trips we've pretty much adopted that same approach... fenders tied and measured (usually vertical, for floating docks) on each side, so she can just kick them over. A direct outcome of all that very common "Oh, I really meant you'd be [the other side]-to" message from the dockmaster or dockhands.

We also put a Polyform A4 buoy fender into the mix, for longer trips, starting with our previous boat... because it seemed to help up closer to where the bow would be curved further away from a floating dock... especially if I felt like I might need to temporarily lean the hull against the dock for some reason. We just had one, and wifey could move it from side to side relatively easily.

When we got this boat, I thought "bigger boat, bigger buoy" so got an A5 -- without having seen one (lifted one) in advance. Bad move; way larger and heavier, too big to mess with, even for me. :)

-Chris
 
The 58 lazzerete isn't the best but I store my fenders in there on my 52 -
Maybe you could make a rack in some of that wasted space down there.
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Your lazarette doesn't look as deep as ours. I doubt I could entice my Admiral to get down there and she probably couldn't do it easily anyway.

OTOH, that's a useful note. I could maybe use our space down there better... for stuff I've currently got in the transom locker. Mostly oil and antifreeze and so forth. Which would at least mean we could use the transom locker for tube-shaped fenders until/unless something better comes along.

I've not been overly thrilled with baskets near the bow, anyway.

-Chris
 

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