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My anchor is bent. Bought the boat that way. I skimmed back through the thread, looking for discussions on anchors. Looks like some folks are running 40-45lb anchors. Is that the right size for our boats, if we want to do more than just day anchoring? From what I’m reading, for those of us not in lakes we might be better served using something in the 70-80lb range. Not thinking about a storm anchor, just something that will hold when these summer East Coast t-storms roll in. Some of the ones on the Chesapeake lately have had winds in the gale force range. Obviously, you wouldn’t intentionally head out in those conditions. But they can pop up.

So what are you other non-Lake guys using for anchors?
 
My anchor is bent. Bought the boat that way. I skimmed back through the thread, looking for discussions on anchors. Looks like some folks are running 40-45lb anchors. Is that the right size for our boats, if we want to do more than just day anchoring? From what I’m reading, for those of us not in lakes we might be better served using something in the 70-80lb range. Not thinking about a storm anchor, just something that will hold when these summer East Coast t-storms roll in. Some of the ones on the Chesapeake lately have had winds in the gale force range. Obviously, you wouldn’t intentionally head out in those conditions. But they can pop up.

So what are you other non-Lake guys using for anchors?
I still have the stock 44 lb Delta plow anchor. I anchor a lot and haven't had an issues even in strong wind and storms. I keep getting ready to buy a Rocna 25kg (55 lb) because all my anchoring guru buddies tell me I'm dumb not to buy one. But I keep putting it off because, well, I haven't had any issues with the Delta. I did swap out the 25' of factory chain with 135' of chain.
 
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I’m running a 33 Rocha (73#). It’s big, isn’t a perfect fit in the bow roller, but it fits our cruising style well and is storm size for our boat.
A few guys on the 420 / 44 DB thread are running the Rocna 25 and love it.
Mantus makes a great anchor also, not sure of the fit on the larger ones.
 
I’m running a 33 Rocha (73#). It’s big, isn’t a perfect fit in the bow roller, but it fits our cruising style well and is storm size for our boat.
A few guys on the 420 / 44 DB thread are running the Rocna 25 and love it.
Mantus makes a great anchor also, not sure of the fit on the larger ones.

Thanks Bill and Mark. I've been research the Rocna and Mantus both. Seems like they both are well-rated when it comes to grabbing (and re-grabbing, if need be) and holding. For 50 knots or less (not storm rating, but more than I'd want to be anchored in!), both the Mantus and Rocna would be 55lb anchors for a 400DB, according to their sizing charts:

Rocna: https://newcontent.westmarine.com/documents/pdfs/Compatibility Chart/AnchorSizingGuide.pdf

Mantus: https://www.mantusmarine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Anchor-Sizing-Guide-2.jpg

Mark, you gave a key piece of info: That is, how large of an anchor fits in the bow roller. It's good to hear that the Rocna 33 does fit. Sounds like the 25 might fit a bit "better"? Probably true for the Mantus, too. And they are within about $50 of each other. Too bad the Delta 55lb is only a little over half as much as those two!

Bill, what size chain do you use? 3/8"?
 
Problem solved. It was a 90 amp fuse on the starter of the starboard engine.

While down there I cleaned up all terminal ends, load checked the batteries. All good and back to normal.

And the SR techs (Rick and Tom) were a huge help. Also the tech at Mercruiser.
 
My anchor is bent. Bought the boat that way. I skimmed back through the thread, looking for discussions on anchors. Looks like some folks are running 40-45lb anchors. Is that the right size for our boats, if we want to do more than just day anchoring? From what I’m reading, for those of us not in lakes we might be better served using something in the 70-80lb range. Not thinking about a storm anchor, just something that will hold when these summer East Coast t-storms roll in. Some of the ones on the Chesapeake lately have had winds in the gale force range. Obviously, you wouldn’t intentionally head out in those conditions. But they can pop up.

So what are you other non-Lake guys using for anchors?

I put a Mantus M1 45Lb anchor on. It fits like a glove and is so much better than the original Delta.

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OK, I have to jump into this bilge pump discussion because like Johnny, my alarm panel at the helm is annoying me greatly. When underway, I keep getting the alarm "Forward Bilge Pump". Fortunately, the audible alarms are either turned off, or not working. That's ok, but I hate the Sea Ray Monitor (yes, mine still works) flipping between "All Systems OK" and "Forward Bilge Pump" alarm. So my question is: WHICH is the forward bilge pump? Sounds silly, right? But I've gotten conflicting information.

Is it the one most forward in the engine room? Or is it the pump in the sump box (which is further forward than the one in the engine room)? Or, is there another pump somewhere? This is truly driving me nuts!

Thx

Open the sump box hole...put your head in it and look all the way aft. There is an emergency bilge pump back there.
 
Has anyone replaced their shift and throttle cables? I am looking for the correct part numbers and any helpful tips.

After driving my friends's 2008 Meridian I realized just how bad my shifters had got over the last couple years.
 
Open the sump box hole...put your head in it and look all the way aft. There is an emergency bilge pump back there.

thanks. I’ll check it. That one has been bone dry. I believe after all this that this alarm is for the forward area in the bilge, between the engines.
 
I am all over the place these days. Anchors, bilge alarms, swim platforms... You'd think my boat was falling apart (it's not. She's running great!). I wanted to report back that I reached out to a couple swim platform companies. I've heard back from only one so far: Swimplatforms.com I have a full description of the proposal from them that I can share. They are saying it can conservatively support 600lbs. The cost of the platform is about $3500, plus shipping and then installation.

Some pics are included below. What we don't get to see, unfortunately, is how high it sits on the transom. Or how much of the beam it spans. I've asked for more pics. I don't know what the installation would be. They say two people can do it in about 1/2 a day. Which, for me, probably means an entire weekend. LOL

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I am all over the place these days. Anchors, bilge alarms, swim platforms... You'd think my boat was falling apart (it's not. She's running great!). I wanted to report back that I reached out to a couple swim platform companies. I've heard back from only one so far: Swimplatforms.com I have a full description of the proposal from them that I can share. They are saying it can conservatively support 600lbs. The cost of the platform is about $3500, plus shipping and then installation.

Some pics are included below. What we don't get to see, unfortunately, is how high it sits on the transom. Or how much of the beam it spans. I've asked for more pics. I don't know what the installation would be. They say two people can do it in about 1/2 a day. Which, for me, probably means an entire weekend. LOL

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Steve, can this be mounted higher on the back of the boat? Or does it lay on top of the old platform. Greg
 
I am all over the place these days. Anchors, bilge alarms, swim platforms... You'd think my boat was falling apart (it's not. She's running great!). I wanted to report back that I reached out to a couple swim platform companies. I've heard back from only one so far: Swimplatforms.com I have a full description of the proposal from them that I can share. They are saying it can conservatively support 600lbs. The cost of the platform is about $3500, plus shipping and then installation.

Some pics are included below. What we don't get to see, unfortunately, is how high it sits on the transom. Or how much of the beam it spans. I've asked for more pics. I don't know what the installation would be. They say two people can do it in about 1/2 a day. Which, for me, probably means an entire weekend. LOL

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Coop,
Can they give you overall width ?
That could help know how far it goes side to side.
When I checked about freight from swimplatforms I think it was $1000 and they need a dock to unload it onto.
Also. Your old platform through bolts to your hull. If the platform is at a different height you will be repairing holes in the hull. I’m guessing it needs to be out of the water for this so you’ll need a gel repair guy also.
 
Steve, can this be mounted higher on the back of the boat? Or does it lay on top of the old platform. Greg

This one appears to be a replacement. Not a lay-over. That sounds like a big job.

Coop,
Can they give you overall width ?
That could help know how far it goes side to side.
When I checked about freight from swimplatforms I think it was $1000 and they need a dock to unload it onto.
Also. Your old platform through bolts to your hull. If the platform is at a different height you will be repairing holes in the hull. I’m guessing it needs to be out of the water for this so you’ll need a gel repair guy also.

Yeah, non trivial replacement, to be sure. Especially unbolting the old one and glassing over (although I can’t believe that would be very expensive compared to everything else).

And yes, $100+ for packing in a wood box. Almost $700 shipping to a commercial address locally. And it’s heavy, so it would have to be to a boat yard. Nothing impossible here. But a big job. Just sharing all this to the group for others that might be interested.

The width is 129.5” which is just under 11’. So that’s about 1.5’ on either side shy of the full width. Wish I could remember how close my Dancer’s platform came to the full width.

Here’s a link to the full reply I got:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xs4vay13eh3jycy/Swimplatforms quote.docx?dl=0
 
Housekeeping question for you all.
How many of you run the humidity mode control when not at the boat in warmer climates?
Do any of you run a small plug in dehumidifier? I have used damp rid containers with some good success but was curious if you all had another solution you would be kind enough to share to keep out the humidity and boat damp smells.
 
I use Damp Rid when I’m worried about it. Does the humidity setting run raw water through the system like the AC does? I never have water actively pumping into my boat when I’m not there.
 
Yup, but it doesn't sound the alarm. The two pumps that sound the alarm are the "emergency forward bilge pump", which is the pump in the cabin forward of the engine room bulkhead under the inward Guest stateroom bunk, and the "aft emergency bilge pump" which some call the high water pump. It's mounted in the back of the engine room on a ledge about a foot higher than the regular old aft bilge pump (which doesn't sound an alarm).

Did a little sleuthing today on this alarm. Started with the sump box area. Looked in there and it’s bone dry. As long as I was there, I cleaned the sump box. Ran water through it and went to the helm. Sea Ray System Monitor reported a sump alarm when the box was pumping. Has never seen that before. Nice to see this feature, but not what I was looking for.

Then took a hose into the engine room. Turned the water on and began filling the forward bilge pump area - the one by the forward bulkhead. The Systems Monitor reported the same Forward Bilge pump alarm that I had been noticing when running on plane. So this confirms what I thought - this area is filling and when on plane, triggers the float switch because it’s as the rear of that collection area.

So it wasn’t the emergency forward bilge pump in the stateroom or the high water (rear bilge) alarm. Glad to have that resolved. Now to rebuild the starboard strainer to stop the leaking at load...
 
Did a little sleuthing today on this alarm. Started with the sump box area. Looked in there and it’s bone dry. As long as I was there, I cleaned the sump box. Ran water through it and went to the helm. Sea Ray System Monitor reported a sump alarm when the box was pumping. Has never seen that before. Nice to see this feature, but not what I was looking for.

Then took a hose into the engine room. Turned the water on and began filling the forward bilge pump area - the one by the forward bulkhead. The Systems Monitor reported the same Forward Bilge pump alarm that I had been noticing when running on plane. So this confirms what I thought - this area is filling and when on plane, triggers the float switch because it’s as the rear of that collection area.

So it wasn’t the emergency forward bilge pump in the stateroom or the high water (rear bilge) alarm. Glad to have that resolved. Now to rebuild the starboard strainer to stop the leaking at load...
Well done. My 2001 doesn't have the sump box wired into the System Monitor. My system monitor inputs are the two aft bilge pumps, the forward bilge pump and the forward emergency bilge pump. In addition it detects low oil pressure and high temp on each engine, and generator shutdown. That's it's nine inputs.

What message exactly did the system monitor display when you filled the shower sump? Is it possible your shower sump float switch/pump isn't working and the water actually overflowed into the Forward emergency bilge?
 
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Well done. My 2001 doesn't have the sump box wired into the System Monitor. My system monitor inputs are the two aft bilge pumps, the forward bilge pump and the forward emergency bilge pump. In addition it detects low oil pressure and high temp on each engine, and generator shutdown. That's it's nine inputs.

What message exactly did the system monitor display when you filled the shower sump? Is it possible your shower sump float switch/pump isn't working and the water actually overflowed into the Forward emergency bilge?

Good thought. That’s actually why I started with the sump box. And it’s why I ran water into it first (before cleaning it). It was running great and never overflowed. That area is bone dry. I don’t recall the exact message but it was real similar to the fwd bilge alarm. Instead of saying “bilge”, however, it said “sump”. I almost missed noticing it. I assume I’d get a “fwd emergency bilge” or similar message for that bilge pump?

My Monitor does report low oil pressures, too. Messing with my oil sender revealed that to me! I haven’t seen any high temp or gen shutdown messages (thank goodness).
 

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