420/44 DB Owners Club

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Alex F, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. Pura Vida dos

    Pura Vida dos Member

    33
    Oct 23, 2017
    Grand Haven MI / Punta Gorda FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge, Highfield 340 on Freedom Lift, Garmin 7612
    Cummins 480CE
    I removed our door a few years back due to sliding somewhat roughly and a lot of grinding noise. Due to lack of easy locating new roller I just swapped them from side to side. This worked for awhile. After a couple years the rough & grind returned. A couple months ago I gave it a serious look and discovered the aluminum track had mushroomed from years of the steel rollers rolling back & forth. Without even removing the door I was able to hand sand both sides of the profile till the mushroomed burr fell off each side, then knocked off the sharp edges. Now rolls like new! Figure I’m good for another 10 years!
     
  2. West Coast

    West Coast Member

    38
    Feb 12, 2019
    Vancouver BC
    1998 Sea Ray 400 sedan Bridge
    cat 3116
    I was able to lift my door off like any other sliding glass door and replace my rollers easily. I was even lucky enough to find the rollers at Home Depot...they were exactly the same and even the adjusters worked. They cost $15 each. When does that ever happen with a boat? Good luck!
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2021
  3. boaterholic

    boaterholic Member GOLD Sponsor

    86
    Jan 2, 2021
    Welaka, FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge (in purchase process)
    Diamond Performance Series 430HP 6CTA 8.3M's
    Thanks guys, good info. Hopefully mine will just lift off and find new rollers at my local store a short ways away!
     
  4. SeasNT

    SeasNT Member

    53
    Jan 30, 2016
    Lake Erie
    44 DB 2006
    QSC 500
    Also, we've had pretty good luck with Boeshield T-9 spray lube on the sliding door track, use it twice a year. The door is operating much more smoothly.
     
  5. boaterholic

    boaterholic Member GOLD Sponsor

    86
    Jan 2, 2021
    Welaka, FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge (in purchase process)
    Diamond Performance Series 430HP 6CTA 8.3M's
    I should be getting my new to me boat delivered tomorrow, and have heard from the captain about a few issues during the trip that will require me to do a little wire chasing between the flybridge and below. Not having spent anytime aboard exploring the "innards" yet, can someone tell me how the wiring is routed between the bridge and below? How easy or difficult is it to pull wires if need be?
    Thank you!
     
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  6. bajturner

    bajturner Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    778
    Aug 17, 2010
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    2008 44 Sedan Bridge
    2017 Avon 380DL RIB w/ Yamaha 40
    2019 Sea-Doo GTX
    2020 Sea-Doo RXT-X
    Twin QSC-500 HO
    Last summer there were times my galley refrigerator was having trouble keeping cool. I believe it is the original and I am not a big fan of it...frosts up a lot, loud, slow to cool.

    I did a quick search here and didn't see any posts about alternatives to the stock Norcold (I thought there were, perhaps I am just not finding them).

    Has anyone replaced their Norcold with an alternative?
     
  7. Islandtime04

    Islandtime04 Member

    77
    Dec 10, 2017
    Chesapeake Bay
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    GHS Lift
    11' Walker Bay 30hp
    Garmin 7612 (duel)
    Cummins 8.3 480CE's
    I replaced my galley fridge with the Vitrifrigo. Super quiet, unlike the Norcold. Get's very cold too. We LOVE it. Duel power (12/24Vdc - 100-240Vac 50/60Hz). I never thought I'd buy anything Italian for the boat, but this unit is quiet and the freezer compartment is larger. Double check the Dems, but mine was a perfect replacement size. Oh..We don't like the handles...small and takes a while to get used to. Save your Norcold Ice bucket. It fits perfectly in the new unit.

    Vitrifrigo Front-Loading Black Refrigerator DP150IBD4-F-1 Surface Flan – MMarine Online
     
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  8. Islandtime04

    Islandtime04 Member

    77
    Dec 10, 2017
    Chesapeake Bay
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    GHS Lift
    11' Walker Bay 30hp
    Garmin 7612 (duel)
    Cummins 8.3 480CE's
    Thanks for the tip. Mine has done the same thing and wondered if I could just file them down.
     
  9. Tomco

    Tomco Active Member

    340
    Aug 16, 2012
    Ottawa, Ontario
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    GHS Hydraulic Lift
    11' Walker Bay, 30hp
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3M
    Hi Brian, check around posts 1401.
     
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  10. AlGallinaro

    AlGallinaro New Member

    9
    Dec 20, 2016
    Quincy, MA
    2004, 420 Cummins diesels

    Boat name- Liquid Therapy
    6CTA 450's v drives
    You might look at Vitrifrigo (sp) defender marine was where I got it and seemed decent but sold that boat and need to replace both fridge and freezer on my 420-just googled it:
    https://mmarineonline.com/products/...MIicHOrdOA7wIVjrWzCh3YVALlEAQYAiABEgInvPD_BwE
     
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  11. Pura Vida dos

    Pura Vida dos Member

    33
    Oct 23, 2017
    Grand Haven MI / Punta Gorda FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge, Highfield 340 on Freedom Lift, Garmin 7612
    Cummins 480CE
    Your welcome for the tip, I thought it over a little more & remembered I did have the sliding panel out at the time. Just remove the screws in the plastic spacer above the panel, remove the spacer the lift the door & swing the bottom out. Doable alone but much easier with a helper.
    Steve
     
  12. Mark.60

    Mark.60 Active Member

    121
    Sep 6, 2020
    Westbrook Connecticut
    2007 44 sedan bridge
    Cummins qsc 500
    I had a Vitrifrigo on my last boat, was surprised at the low amp draw. It would run all night on one battery.
     
  13. boaterholic

    boaterholic Member GOLD Sponsor

    86
    Jan 2, 2021
    Welaka, FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge (in purchase process)
    Diamond Performance Series 430HP 6CTA 8.3M's
    Anyone know the coolant filter part number from fleet guard for the 8.3 M?
    Thanks
     
  14. bajturner

    bajturner Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    778
    Aug 17, 2010
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    2008 44 Sedan Bridge
    2017 Avon 380DL RIB w/ Yamaha 40
    2019 Sea-Doo GTX
    2020 Sea-Doo RXT-X
    Twin QSC-500 HO
    Will do!
     
  15. LG111

    LG111 Active Member

    623
    Jan 4, 2015
    NW
    44 Sedan Bridge - 07
    Black Hull
    QSC500’s
    Boataholic, it's easy but a b-ich. Depending what you are trying to accomplish years 04 to 09, let's start at the dash. My is a 07.
    Pull GPS out to gain dash upper access.
    Open door below wheel, lower access.
    Take access cover off, right of lower access door.
    Take deck light off on starboard wall, to the right of the lower access panel.
    In the salon, take the TV off the wall.
    Unscrew wall from cabinet.
    Full access to all wiring in the back right corner coming down from bridge.

    Okay, now the fun begins. Again, my example is from the dash to run new wires. Hand fish the wire as you want it to lay behind the dash all the way to the light you pulled. With your fingers, pull the wire thru the small whole all the way. Now attach that wire to a fish. With a flashlight look in the hole down and to the right. You will see a conduit with wires entering it. Feed the fish and wire there.
    A second person below in the salon with a flash light looking up in deep right corner watches for the tip of the fish to show up. Go slow as the pipe doesn't turn down just straight back. At the point you see the fish, not easy. If you have small hands or a hook, pull the fish down. I could only use two fingers to reach, pinch and pull, not my thumb... ugh.
    Easier said than done but that's about it.

    Suggestion, run a wire or two along the main wire you are fishing. These may serve you well with future installations, pull and play!

    Hope this helps!

    Mark
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2021
  16. boaterholic

    boaterholic Member GOLD Sponsor

    86
    Jan 2, 2021
    Welaka, FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge (in purchase process)
    Diamond Performance Series 430HP 6CTA 8.3M's
    That’s awesome info, thank you!
     
  17. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Well-Known Member

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    The coolant contains SCA additives which prevent cavitation and resulting pitting to the engine. The filters contain those additives in varying concentrations depending on part number. If coolant is new and is precharged with additives, such as the Fleetguard ES Compleat, then use filter WF 2077 which has no additives. Then test every year to see what filter to put on. If your coolant isn’t new, then you will need to test it with a test strip to determine which filter to install.
     
  18. boaterholic

    boaterholic Member GOLD Sponsor

    86
    Jan 2, 2021
    Welaka, FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge (in purchase process)
    Diamond Performance Series 430HP 6CTA 8.3M's
    Wow, I had no idea. I guess I need to go get some test strips and check it out. Can you recommend a source to purchase those test strips from?
    I still have lots to learn on the new to me diesel engines! Thanks for the help.
     
  19. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Cummins Parts Dept.

    Also go online to Cummins Quickserve, register, and enter your engine serial #'s and see all the parts for your engines...
     
  20. boaterholic

    boaterholic Member GOLD Sponsor

    86
    Jan 2, 2021
    Welaka, FL
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge (in purchase process)
    Diamond Performance Series 430HP 6CTA 8.3M's
     

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