58 Sedan Bridge Official Thread

Wow, I didn't think any 2006 boats were delivered with tube TV's. All of mine were flatscreens from the factory.
 
REMOVING THE BUNK ROOM TV

ranger58sb said:
REMOVING THE BUNK ROOM TV

Started that project, no joy. I removed the obvious horizontal screws that enter the black removable TV cabinet base from inside the hanging locker. I removed the two vertical screws at each front corner of the cabinet base.

But there's not enough clearance side to side, inside the decorative surround, to allow the whole TV and cabinet base to slide out. Nor is there clearance at the top of the TV to allow sliding the base plate/TV out slightly tilted. And of course the TV is apparently screwed to the black cabinet base from the underside.

Am I missing an easy trick? Or is the next step the Saws-All approach on the screws holding the TV to the base?
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ranger58sb said:
Well, a 12" Sawz-All blade along the underside of the TV didn't do it. Haven't been able to figure out what's holding the TV in. Not positive yet, but it seems like I can slide a metal yardstick all the way from side to side under the TV...
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bmac said:
Wow, I didn't think any 2006 boats were delivered with tube TV's. All of mine were flatscreens from the factory.
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carterchapman said:
Mine had only one - in the bunk room with a built in DVD
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Our 2006 boat was originally delivered with five analog TVs (NTSC tuners): a 32” Sharp flat-screen in the saloon (never saw it), 20” Sharp flat-screens in the master (never saw it) and bow staterooms, a 17” Toshiba on the bridge (never saw it), and a 13” Toshiba tube TV/DVD combo in the bunk stateroom.

By the time we got the boat, the saloon TV had been replaced with a 32” Samsung smart TV, the master TV had been replaced with a 24” Insignia Fire TV, and the bridge TV apparently took a hike. I have since moved the master TV to the bow, the 32” saloon TV to the master, installed a 40” Samsung smart TV in the saloon… and next in line was to remove the analog 13” Toshiba tube TV/DVD player from the bunk stateroom.

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You’d think easy to remove, yes? Especially because I also have the Sea Ray installation drawing, right? (Thanks, Carter!)

Au contraire!

I thought at first removing the whole mounting platform would be the easiest approach. It’s only secured by two downward screws at the front, two sideways screws from inside the hanging locker, and according to the installation drawing, by angle brackets (note: plural) at the back. But the mounting platform is also about 1/8” wider than the trim surround at the front, so it couldn’t all come out as one piece without tilting… and the TV took up so much height that tilting the mounting platform wasn’t possible. My guess is that Sea Ray installed the TV onto the mounting platform, connected the antenna coax and plugged the TV into the power outlet, inserted the whole thing into the cabinet, secured the mounting platform… and THEN added the exterior surround trim after all that.

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The Sea Ray installers made sure it was safe from tsunami, earthquake, bombs, etc… and screwed it secure from the underside of its mounting platform… so no way would it have moved in some measly ol’ 30’ seas or whatever. There were at least four #8x1” Phillips flat head screws (see drawing), two in front, two in back. I found the remnants of two more in the underside of the TV, too, but didn’t immediately see where those might have come through the mounting platform…

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I didn’t really want to use power tools, hoping to protect the mounting platform and especially the outside trim from slips or doofus-hood-ness… ‘cause I dunno much about how to work with decorative trim… but I had to finally accept “more power” as part of the solution.

The front two screws submitted to a reciprocating saw with metal-cutting blade, relatively easy in the grand scheme of things, but I could “feel” additional “somethings” approx. 13” toward the back using a metal yardstick as a probe. Tried an endoscope, too (couldn’t resolve squat with that), but I assumed those “somethings” were additional #8x1” screws.

Turns out the longest normal length for metal-cutting “Sawzall” blades is 12” but that wouldn’t reach the two back screws. No room to insert a hacksaw, and those are generally short anyway. I tried a 15” handsaw; no workee, couldn’t reach (nominal blade length is shortened by how the handle is attached). I tried a strap around the back to see if I could yank the TV off the back screws; no workee, not strong enough. I tried a 20” handsaw; no workee, wouldn’t cut the screws. (Still sore from that.) I eventually got a 16” “demolition blade” for the power saw, only 2 TPI and not at all intended for cutting metal… but it eventually worked. (Sore from that, too.)

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As it turns out, it worked but NOT by cutting the back screws after all (see remaining); instead it broke off parts of the TV under-carriage (that the screws went into) so it finally all came loose. Note also only a single angle bracket is visible in that pic, not even connected to the mounting platform. I suspect that means there’s another angle bracket back there, underneath so the mounting platform rests on it, sandwiched between the two.

So it (only) took me about two weeks to remove the old TV! (Including interruptions for buying new saws, saw blades, learning about saw blades, etc.)

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I’ll want to do some cosmetic refurbishing of the bottom piece, or maybe I’ll even replace it. For now, though, I’ve repurposed that cubby hole as a place for the battery chargers for our portable electric tools.

-Chris
 
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Just spent the day on an '06 580DB. What an awesome boat! I really think that could be my next one! Lol! Dare to dream.
 
carterchapman said:
Ken - Does your '08 have a flat plate TV in the JO Bunkroom?
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Our 08 thankfully doesn't have any TV in the JO bunk. I think it's one of the few options the original owner didn't get even though he got some options not officially listed as options. We like having the cabinet space and the fact that our daughter can't watch TV in bed!
 
Strypes said:
Just spent the day on an '06 580DB. What an awesome boat! I really think that could be my next one! Lol! Dare to dream.
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Despite my recent spate of systems issues, these are great boats. Super comfortable at dock, anchor and underway. My only wish is more natural ventilation when A/C isn't necessary and more room in the engine room.
 
So my Admiral was on call this weekend. I went to the marina just to stay out of her way! I was invited on a lovely 58 Sedan Bridge by our friend Skip. What a treat! He even let me take the helm for a bit. The Man engines are super quiet, powerful and smooth. Very impressed with the boat!
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My new to me 58 is on it’s way from Connecticut to St Joseph Michigan. I hired Captain Bill to bring it over. I know I should have done it myself but I’m still working. I have a new boat to pay for you know. He has been sending great photos so I thought I’d share a couple.
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Congratulations! Any chance you can jump on somewhere at least on a weekend?
 
Charlesoceanone said:
My new to me 58 is on it’s way from Connecticut to St Joseph Michigan. I hired Captain Bill to bring it over. I know I should have done it myself but I’m still working. I have a new boat to pay for you know. He has been sending great photos so I thought I’d share a couple. View attachment 131125 View attachment 131127 View attachment 131124
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Congrats. I assume this was the 2013 listed in CT? If so was it one owner or was the recent owner only 2 years? Looks very similar to the one we tried to get out of NJ two years ago.
 
PANTRY STORAGE

FWIW, I installed some turntables in the pantry to be better able to deal with typical canned goods and spices.

One of these, and I just ordered another:
Amazon.com - 2 Tier Lazy Susan Organizer for Cabinet, 9-Inch Clear Lazy Susan Turntable for Cabinet Organizer, Skincare Organizer , Spice Storage Containers -

One of these sets; the 9" one in the pantry (and the larger one went under the master bath cabinet):
Amazon.com - 2 Pack Lazy Susan Organizer for Cabinet, 11" and 9" Clear Lazy Susan Turntable Set for Cabinet Organizer, Skincare Organizer , Spice Storage Containers, Turntable Organizer for Food and Condiments… -

These selected specifically for the because they have a raised retaining ring around each turntable/tier. I also adjusted the height of the first 2-tier turntable to get better spacing on lower and upper tiers. These sized fit nicely in the large end of the triangular shelves. The 2-tier versions work well for typical canned good, spices, cocktail peanuts, etc. and the single works nicely for taller items like cooking oils and salad dressings and so forth.

Three of these under the turntables in the pantry (a little rise is necessary to let 9-1/4"" turntables fit, given the pantry shelf lips):
Amazon.com: Wood Plywood Circle Plaques 9 inch, 1/2 Inch Thick, Pack of 3 Round Birch Wood Cutouts, Unfinished for Crafts and DIY Signs, by Woodpeckers

-Chris
 
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BRIDGE CARPETING

I used Corinthian Marine Carpet on the previous boat -- replacing the original crap with the deteriorating black backing -- and the Corinthian product was very good, lasted at least 11 years and was going strong when we sold that boat in 2020.

So I checked, and Corinthian Marine Carpet does have templates for our 58DBs. Five pieces: two for the bridge, and three for the cockpit.

A few weeks ago I ordered the two bridge pieces in their Desert Sand AquaMat berber, with AquaLoc backing, and with taupe Sunbrella binding. $1,735.80, delivered.

The carpet itself, binding, etc., is as I expected, good... and I like the color combo.

The template they used is "adequate." I deduce they were not Sea Ray's OEM supplier and whoever gave them templates didn't do a wonderful job. Doesn't really cover all of the existing, presumably original, male snaps in the deck. (Assuming what we had when we got the boat was original -- certainly the crappy black backing bits all over the place looked original.) Doesn't really cover all the non-skid everywhere. The two pieces don't meet where they should come together. The holes for the helm seats and pedestal table aren't perfectly placed.

I'll go ahead and use it because I need the extra cushioning, but for sticklers (usually including me) I'd suggest doing your own templating.

One point to highlight: the new carpet using their template has circular cut-outs for the helm seats and the table. NOT/NOT slits that lead to those circles, as were in our (original?) pieces. That means temporarily dismounting the helm seats and the table top. Not a huge issue -- although the helm seats are a tad heavy -- and I think I might actually prefer this arrangement, unless cleaning underneath becomes an issues. We'll see.

Speaking of cleaning, beforehand, wifey used her rotary floor scrubber/carpet shampooer on the bridge deck, with the scrub brush attachments and generous helpings of Soft Scrub and water, to get rid of most of the remaining black bits from the earlier carpet. That didn't get everything, but it got up enough so I can put the rest of that job on the back burner until I haven't got anything else to fix. (Yeah, right.)

-Chris
 
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