A first day of fall question for all of you...

[b_arrington]

For the record, LED'S do not last forever.
They make them pretty cheap, and they do fail.
We've been installing a lot of them at work, they're really nice, but they're not made to last.

Like any commodity product, there's a lot of variability in the manufacturing process. Some are cheap Chinese crap; some are good quality Chinese stuff. Perhaps a little is still good American stuff.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of those panels in my lights burns out at some point. I had a Perko LED nav light burn out recently because sea water got inside the housing and corroded it. OTOH, I have 15 small LED recessed lights in my kitchen from a reputable manufacturer. I expect them to last a very long time.

 

[dwna1a]

Skip fixing up the house and buy a bigger boat

 

[sbw1]

Replace. We went with simple recessed LEDs that are bright and cheap to operate.

 

[Gofirstclass]

dwna1, nope, the next big purchase will be a Class A diesel motorhome but I won't plunk down the bucks for it until the boat sells. Paying WA's plethora of taxes on two big toys ain't in my game plan.

SBW1, I need to get with you to learn how to keep a garage clean.

Here's what mine looks like, but in my defense that whole pile of "stuff" on front of the Terrain belongs to Tina's mom. She's 104, lives in a LTC facility and we moved all her stuff from her last place into our garage about a year ago. We were going to have a yard sale but Covid nixed those plans.

It's a 6 car garage but you'd never know it from all the piles of stuff in there,.

 

[b_arrington]

Skip fixing up the house and buy a bigger boat

I’m working toward that plan.

 

[Blueone]

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Replace. We went with simple recessed LEDs that are bright and cheap to operate.
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That’s not fair you just moved in there...like the gas heater

 

[brewster16]

when in doubt...throw it out

 

[Gofirstclass]

By way of an addendum, I have ample supply of the LED bulbs to replace all the old ones and would have s few left over.

And no, I'm not going to remove the chandeliers and replace them with 4' tubes.

My plan at this time is to replace the old ones when they burn out. Easy Peasy. I figure I have about a 10 year supply of the LED bulbs on hand so no need to buy any new ones. The difference in the color "warm" vs "cool" white kinda bugs me but not enough to get me to throw out bulbs that still work.

 

[Creekwood]

I really hate that "cool" LED color of light, except for shops and task lighting. I did buy a set of dimmable LED flood bulbs for eight of those older recessed ceiling cans in our basement TV/games room. They have a tiny switch at the base where you can change the color from 2700/4000/5000. I thought that was great because I had no idea what might be best to replace the halogen. Turns out 4000 is about right for that room.

 

[sbw1]

I really hate that "cool" LED color of light, except for shops and task lighting. I did buy a set of dimmable LED flood bulbs for eight of those older recessed ceiling cans in our basement TV/games room. They have a tiny switch at the base where you can change the color from 2700/4000/5000. I thought that was great because I had no idea what might be best to replace the halogen. Turns out 4000 is about right for that room.

As you know, leds come in various light frequencies. We now have them through out our entire house and use fully dimmable warm lights that are indistinguishable from the warm incandescent lights they replaced. The only place we have bright white is in the garage where we want lots of light for working on cars.

 

[Kwik]

I'm an industrial electrician in a pharmaceutical facility. I am in the process of changing all the tubes and bulbs to LED. I am putting 4k lights in office spaces and 5k lights in manufacturing spaces. I tried 5k in offices and had several complaints. But, the production people love the 5k for better clarity for quality control purposed.

As far as longevity, I have always used Phillips LED tubes at work. I can say that in an office space that has the lights on 16 hours a day has not had to have one replaced in 7 years. That's not bad. Can't speak for some of this Amazon chinese specialty bulbs, yet. Likely, my entire boat will go dark all at once 2 years after installation.

 

[ttmott]

Please for all that is holy, man up the cave!

 

[Blueone]

Please for all that is holy, man up the cave!
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You have a little machine shop in there.... very cool