A request to the CSR Moderators

Discussion in 'ClubSeaRay.com Suggestions' started by Creekwood, Mar 17, 2021.

Do you agree CSR should be boating/lifestyle only

  1. Yes - the mods limit content to CSR boating/lifestyle topics

    24 vote(s)
    30.4%
  2. No - leave it as is

    55 vote(s)
    69.6%
  1. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
    I am asking the CSR moderators to consider making CSR a less hostile forum by considering being more strict in enforcing your policy of civility.

    I used to come to CSR to share my love of boating and the outdoors with fellow boaters. To read about and share maintenance and repair ideas and tips with other boaters. It was always fun and uplifting.

    The past year has been incredibly stressful on the world. A very divisive election in the US, this pandemic. And because CSR is a place where people of differing political views gather to talk about the boating lifestyle they share, its no surprise that this became a place to vent. But that is not what CSR is about.

    I am not talking about banning people with strong views. (God forbid that, because I would be out). But I am talking about not tolerating hostile posts and threads. And deleting threads that go that way.

    I also don't think CSR should allow any political threads. There is no need for CSR to turn into a political protest platform - for me or for anyone. There are lots of places to go on line and vent about political issues that have a broader audience. That is not why we gather at CSR.

    I always respect other people's views and their right to have them. Face to face, sitting on the dock at our marina, I would never get into a political argument with one of my friends. And we all have different political and other views. On-line forums are different though. We say things you would never say to the guy to the guy in chair next to you that you just handed a cold beer to.

    Virtually everyone on this forum if we ran into each other out in a cove somewhere and realized "Hey, you are XXX from CSR?" we would say "Good to meet you. Come on over for a drink.".

    So lets give ourselves CSR as a place to meet with friends, like we are sitting in dock chair having a few drinks.
     
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  2. Maky

    Maky Member

    44
    Jul 13, 2017
    Lake St. Clair
    2008 240 Sundancer
    Single 5.0
    I moderate an Outdoors Forum with over 73K members and ended up with a no political post policy. Members that were basically like-minded in a normal setting turned on each other in a blood bath.

    Even after 3 months of this "some" still rock the boat at any given chance to sell their wares. Several members were given a vacation, but the damage was done. That Forum has been in existence for over 20 years with several elections, but this one has driven a wedge into the membership like nothing we've ever seen.

    About 5 years ago we opened a political sub-section within where members could bash each other's brains in and it got way out of hand.

    The healing has started, but the damage was done...
     
  3. Phil S

    Phil S Well-Known Member

    Oct 16, 2020
    Taxachusetts
    Former 2004 300DA

    BW 210 Montauk
    BW 130 S/S
    Sundolphin 9.4 Tender
    Merc 200/40/9.9
    Isn't that the tiki bar section? Or are you talking about political stuff popping up in regular topics?

    I don't find this site to be overly political but maybe I just happened to miss those posts.

    It's funny you mention that -- I am having a sign made for the cockpit that says

    HOUSE RULES
    1. No politics

    Only because we're out to have good time so let's talk about something else. Most of politics is designed to drive a wedge between us and get us fighting amongst ourselves anyway, like bread and circus.
     
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  4. Chris-380

    Chris-380 Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2019
    Pontoon Beach IL
    2000 380 Sundancer
    7.4L Horizon w/V drives
    6D236529-3DB1-4844-AFCA-728268CBFD6E.jpeg 2C850D00-3A6A-42FF-8D56-0AE86CFDC77A.jpeg No, unless it changed in the last couple months. The holding tank is supposed to be for political posts. Then They stay out of the new post feed. Some members refuse to follow the rule, or just won’t read the rules....

     
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  5. Phil S

    Phil S Well-Known Member

    Oct 16, 2020
    Taxachusetts
    Former 2004 300DA

    BW 210 Montauk
    BW 130 S/S
    Sundolphin 9.4 Tender
    Merc 200/40/9.9
    Got it! I don't think I've ever gone in there, I just see what pops up in the New Posts box.
     
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  6. Joint Custody

    Joint Custody Well-Known Member

    988
    Sep 20, 2017
    Lake Powell Utah
    2001 460 Sundancer
    Twin Cummins 6CTA8
    Agreed!
    However hard to do when you have this many members .
    It would be nice if those with political views would keep it to just the holding tank but two things keep that from happening .
    1> No fame in the holding tank.
    2> The holding tank is at the bottom of the site. No one scrolls down that far to post an opinion or to read it. To my point of >1

    I just choose to not to read post from the dozen or so members that love to cause friction but it has gotten a bit much over the last 6 months.
     
  7. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    1998 370 Sundancer
    7.4 MPI
    Oh stop yourself. Have some self discipline and don’t read posts that don’t interest you or offend you. Enough of the wussification of the inter web.
     
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  8. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
    See, this is exactly the civility I am talking about. Wussification? Come on.
     
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  9. HawkX66

    HawkX66 Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2020
    SE Virginia and NH
    "Tread Knot"
    1997 Sea Ray Sundancer 290DA

    2020 F350 6.7L
    454 L29 Carb w/ Bravo III
    Silence! Your opinions offend me. The web has become the town square where differing opinions should be discussed and welcomed, not silenced. Not everyone on this site believes in the freedom of speech; however, some of us have fought and bled for it and will continue to do so. You don't like the topic? Move on. You don't like someone's opinion and do not care to read what they say any longer? Use the commie button that says, "Ignore." Feel free to use it on me.
     
  10. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    Don't fall victim to cancel culture. You are not going to make this a perfect world.... Look at what I just went thru and it was boating related :)
     
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  11. HawkX66

    HawkX66 Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2020
    SE Virginia and NH
    "Tread Knot"
    1997 Sea Ray Sundancer 290DA

    2020 F350 6.7L
    454 L29 Carb w/ Bravo III
    Uh oh. What did you just go through? Must have missed something...
     
  12. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Well-Known Member

    May 25, 2016
    on a large body of water
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Convert fuel into noise
    It takes me on average just a few minutes to scan down "New Post" and read threads that have a topic of interest. And that's probably less than 5% of what's offered here. After that, I hit "Mark All Forums Read" and move on.

    I have a few members blocked due to their obnoxious behavior as well.

    So I use the method "If you don't like it, don't read it and don't participate" and move on.

    Freedom of choice is a good thing. Overly moderated forums tend to push people away. And this appears to be one of the better run forums.

    My vote is to leave it alone and leave it up to the individual.
     
  13. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
    That is what prompted me. That thread went sideways fast.
     
  14. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    and thats my point..its going to happen no matter what
     
  15. Havana Shamrock

    Havana Shamrock Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Sarasota Fla.
    2019. 250 SDX OB
    300 Verado V8
    I’m sick of the let’s silence them or delete them or put them on a vacation this is the USA people died so we could speak our minds and guess what we don’t all think alike so what, don’t read the damn thread and move on. I don’t have Facebook, Instagram etc this is my only social media and I for one am glad there are a few threads other than boating. We discuss pets ,family, shopping let’s shut those conversations down also. I try not to get involved with the political threads too much but I am damn sure against silencing anyone.

    I realize this is a privately owned forum and Jim can make the rules but if the decision is made to silence others that’s my que for stage right I’m out I will pull my membership I don’t agree with Cancel culture.
     
  16. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Quite a stretch to claim CSR is a hostile environment. :rolleyes:
     
  17. chuck1

    chuck1 Super Moderator TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    North GA Mountains
    Looking For Next One
    Looking For Next One
    If they are not started in the holding tank we move them as soon as we see them or they are reported. Some do have real jobs here.
     
  18. RBB

    RBB Well-Known Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    Kentucky
    2006 44DB
    2019 Sea Doo GTX 155
    Pelican Kayak
    2004 390 MY Sold
    Cummins QSC 500
    Amen Brother
     
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  19. spikedaddy99

    spikedaddy99 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 11, 2008
    Prentice, Wi
    2005 500 DB
    QSM-11
    Keep up the good work Chuck.
     
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  20. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Ya, the Cancel Culture, all the moralizing they do...they'll send Pepe Le Pew into exile but think black chick porn during prime time Grammys while kids might be watching is art at the edge and oh so awesome. :confused:
     
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