Adding Radar / Chartplotter

Discussion in 'Electronics Q&A' started by firecadet613, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. firecadet613

    firecadet613 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2007
    Indiana
    '07 V358
    T- VP 5.7GXi
    Think I know the answer to this....but how hard is it to add radar/chartplotter/gps to a cruiser that does not have it? Just as simple/hard as installing the electronics and wiring it up? Figure it may be a good winter project and just run the boat I'm buying the rest of the year without it...
     
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  2. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Active Member

    445
    May 25, 2016
    on a large body of water
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Convert fuel into noise
    Very easy.
     
  3. firecadet613

    firecadet613 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2007
    Indiana
    '07 V358
    T- VP 5.7GXi
    Awesome. I've seen some of the lower end packages for $3,000 or so? Sound about right? I'll research in depth later, just need a good cost estimate before I make an offer to buy...
     
  4. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Active Member

    445
    May 25, 2016
    on a large body of water
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Convert fuel into noise
    Shop them on the internet and find the best deal.
     
  5. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

    780
    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    Probably not hard, but how handy are you. And what kind of access will you have. Will you be making a cut out or just using a mounting bracket. How are you going to run the wires. Etc.
     
  6. firecadet613

    firecadet613 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2007
    Indiana
    '07 V358
    T- VP 5.7GXi
    Simple enough, as I had hoped for. But, a much better project for the off season when I can leave it at any time as is and head home vs when the boat is in use and in the slip!
     
  7. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    My one piece of advice on this and I think 100% of folks who have done will agree.

    Buy as large of a screen as you can fit. 8” may seem large in the store but it’s almost impossible to use in real life situations.

    Josh
     
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  8. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    2018 Back Cove 34
    Cummins QSB 6.7 480
    8” can be fine for routine navigation. When you start using it for radar, or splitting the screen, it can get small in a hurry.

    It depends what will fit on the dash. Some layouts are terrible for screens. My layout is probably above average for size and being on center for easy viewing. At the time I got mine unit 8” was the biggest that would fit in the dash. It works just fine for navigation, and is OK for splitting to run sonar and nav. I can do a 3 way split to run sonar, topo map, and fish eye view but only do that when going slow. It would not be the best with radar.


    This is a split view of sonar and chart.
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  9. KevinC

    KevinC Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    I went with a dual Axiom setup since the 9 inch displays were pretty much the max without over sizing. The new Raymarine Quantum Radar are a simple install too. A power cable and a network cable (Raymarine proprietary CAT6 marinized) or just a power if you choose wireless.

    340SDA - Helm with Axioms (After).jpg

    With this setup I can have two chart views, the isolated radar, a zoomed in chart view (with radar overlay) and the sounder. I can overlay data as needed and build other combos to quickly change views.

    -Kevin
     
  10. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    Kevin

    Just a note so you know you can get the matching factory panels custom cut to fit your new electronics from tecnographics. They are a sponsor here and Sam is amazing.
     
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  11. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    Kevin

    Just a note so you know you can get the matching factory panels custom cut to fit your new electronics from tecnographics. They are a sponsor here and Sam is amazing.
     
  12. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    2018 Back Cove 34
    Cummins QSB 6.7 480
    Yes, it's possible, depending on what you want. I just saw a Garmin GPSMAP 942xs Touch + GMR 18HD+ bundle for $2200.
     
  13. KevinC

    KevinC Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    Yes, I have dealt with tecnographics and they are great - I actually wanted to get away from the wood burl look for something different. I am still on the hunt for a port side keypad cover to complete my color change out (my current one is cracked) and I have been debating adding a third display above for just engine data and removing the 2 tachs and speedos.

    On a side note we digitized these panels to match outside dimensions and made sure the mount holes aligned, we also custom cut them on a CNC and they are available for installers.

    -Kevin
     
  14. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
    I have the RM wireless Quantum radar and I have not been happy with it at all... Do Not Recommend it !!!
     
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  15. Todd320

    Todd320 Well-Known Member

    988
    Jul 21, 2016
    St. Petersburg, FL
    2007 Sea Ray 320DA
    Twin V-drive 5.7L 350 Horizon
    I know TechnoGrafic does custom colors so you can create your own look. Also, I think Sam mentioned they can recover a switch panel with new graphics, not sure they can solve your cracked panel, but maybe?
     
  16. KevinC

    KevinC Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    Nope, unfortunately not - I spoke with them a while ago about it.
    It's the "loop" on the pad broke off :(
    Once I have both new covers I will plan what I want to do overall.

    -Kevin
     
  17. KevinC

    KevinC Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    Is it a wireless issue or some other problem because I have not had a problem with mine but I did hardware it using the ethernet cable.

    -Kevin
     
  18. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
    The wi-fi connection between the two is totally unstable and I am constantly trying to re-connect them.
     
  19. KevinC

    KevinC Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    That sucks, I would just run the Ethernet cable and be done with it. Mine never has had a problem or disconnects. I just can't understand the $$$ cost of the ethernet cables and switches from Raymarine.

    -Kevin
     
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  20. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
    I’ll reach out to Ray Marine and see if that’s an option for me... thank you
     

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