Advice on barbecue!

Discussion in 'Classic Sea Rays' started by Yorkshirelad, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Yorkshirelad

    Yorkshirelad Member

    59
    Oct 21, 2017
    340 Searay 86
    454 Mercruisers with v drives
    Ray-marine radar and gps
    454 mercruisers
    Hi Guys,
    I need advice on purchasing a barbecue grill for my 34 Express Cruiser, my swim platform is 20” deep. So I’m looking at a pedestal set up and something that I can dismantle for cruising.
    Cheers Rob
     
  2. yobub

    yobub Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    404
    Jul 29, 2016
    Chicago
    1998 400 Sundancer
    Cat 3116's
    You will find that you dont need to post the same question multiple places. Many people view by new or recent, so the posts will show up either way.
     
  3. Yorkshirelad

    Yorkshirelad Member

    59
    Oct 21, 2017
    340 Searay 86
    454 Mercruisers with v drives
    Ray-marine radar and gps
    454 mercruisers
    Got it!
     
  4. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
    You may want to think about a Magma grill with the rod holder mount if you have a rod holder. No pedestal needed and easy to put away.
     
  5. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Well-Known Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI Gen VI with V drives
    I built a portable pedestal mount for my Magma Catalina grill. Used the long table leg from the cockpit table (I upgraded mine to a very beefy hi/lo), added the fold-able tripod legs, and then fabricated a receiver on the top of the leg for the cam lever rod holder mount. This worked great. One day, I had the grill out on our wooden deck at home, and mid grilling, accidentally hit the cam lever. You can imagine what happened. I bought the table top feet for the grill, and am under construction building this:
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fg0j7234xwv6len/AAD-z8USp86nGn2QIfJ-5rTUa?dl=0
    He may still be building the rail mount table.
     
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  6. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    I have a Weber Q series grill that I put on a Magma Filet Table that goes into one of the rod holders. The Q grills are either propane or electric. Mine is electric so I have to run the generator to use it. Great setup.
     
  7. rcknecht

    rcknecht Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2009
    toms river,nj
    340 Sundancer 2001
    T 454 MPI
    I have a Magma Newport: <[​IMG]>
    I have the Magma Pedestal too... It work great, but its not inexpensive...
     
  8. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
    Rod holder on swimstep...

    2018-08-14 17.59.05.jpg
     
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  9. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Well-Known Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    Dickson, TN / Chattanooga, TN
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alphas
    Kohler 4kW
    For those that use grills onboard where does all the grease go?
     
  10. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    Many grills including my Weber Q grill have grease trays under the drain hole in the bottom of the grill.
     
  11. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    Ok, I’m warning everybody before hand I am speaking heresy. Skip the gas grill and go directly to electric. We switched to a Kenyon electric last year and the results are remarkable. Here’s the thing, you will never find a boat grill that can generate the BTUs your grill can at home. Add to that fire regulations that (at least here in the Northeast) are making it impossible to have an open flame grill on a boat in a marina.

    The electric grill is nearly as good as a home gas/charcoal grill in terms of heat and because of the water filled drip pan excess smoke is avoided.
     
  12. chuck1

    chuck1 Super Moderator TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    North GA Mountains
    Looking For Next One
    Looking For Next One
    But where would i put the honda genset to run it. Sorry I could not help myself :)
     
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  13. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer
    2001
    Axiom 12 MFD
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    I think electric grills are a great alternative for the reasons you list, but my Weber Q does does in fact get as hot as my home Weber grill and stays lit to about 35 it’s of wind. I’ve attached a couple pics of some steak and burgers with perfect grill marks. 3 minutes per side x 2 = medium rare. Make me hungry looking at them!

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    The downside to electric in my mind is having to run an outlet or extension cord to it, and having to run the genny in order to use it (my inverter would work too...for a little bit anyway).

    Both are great options with pros and cons depending on your local, set up and ability to wire such things.

    For my money and easy of use, the Weber Q is perfect for the boat.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2020
  14. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    I should have been clearer. I was trying to say that gas boat grills fall short on BTUs when compared to gas home grills (or at least our Dynasty). The Kenyon electric definitely can compete with home gas on BTUs. We decided on the Kenyon because with the water tray we could cook inside the helm deck under the hardtop and not worry about smoke and flare ups. True there is a flavor trade off. But being able to cook in air conditioning and away from the Green Head flies in July is priceless
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2020
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  15. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods

    But, I have an Onan/Cummins and you don't, nah-nah,nahanah!
     
  16. chuck1

    chuck1 Super Moderator TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    North GA Mountains
    Looking For Next One
    Looking For Next One
    lol
     
  17. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer
    2001
    Axiom 12 MFD
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    I would agree most do but this little Weber gets HOT! I think the same is true of the electric version.
     
  18. Steve S

    Steve S Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 5, 2007
    Northern IL.
    2000 400 Sedan Bridge with twin CAT 3116's

    2000 340 Sundancer - SOLD!
    210 Monaco 1987 - SOLD!
    Twin Caterpillar 3116's 350 HP straight drives
    On the swim platform, of course...

    <ducks for cover>
     
  19. ENstig8or

    ENstig8or Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    141
    Jun 4, 2013
    New Jersey
    2003 Sea Ray 450 Express Bridge.....

    2016 Sea Ray 21 SPX BR
    Cummins 480CE (450)
    Mercruiser 4.3L (21 SPX)
    I had a Weber electric grill and I ended up giving it away. It did get much hotter than the Magma Newport I have now. But it frequently popped the circuit breaker and worst of all, it had big grease flare ups. So much so that I stopped using it on the boat and cooked with it off the boat only. I love the quality of Weber grills, but did not like this electric one at all. As far as the Newport goes, I don't love it either. It gets the job done safely and I have no worries using it on the boat in a rod holder mount. The problem with it is that it is affected by wind in a big way and has never cooked evenly. One side has always cooked much faster than the other.
     
  20. Kwik

    Kwik Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    120
    Jun 14, 2019
    Indianapolis
    2004 Sea Ray 240 Sundancer
    2017 F150 Ecoboost 4x4
    Raymarine Axiom 9
    Raymarine Sirius 200 reciever
    5.0 Mercruiser w/Bravo III drives
    We are considering the Magma kettle on a post on the swim deck. Can't use an electric on the swim deck. I would trip over the genny trying to get to the grill.;)
     
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