Anti-freeze will break your block!

When memory serves pulling the hose leaves you with a 90 deg fitting so poking the manifold is pretty impossible wuthout removing it.

Funny thing is - the mercruiser manual does not call for things like this. It just calls pulling the plug at thw distributor , the vent plug at the tstat ,the two plugs at the waterpump and let the water drain for 15 minutes. Thats all.

I fully agree with you that doing it the official way may result in disaster , especially with an older engine which accumulatwd some sediment.

I do not know why mercruiser is going this way . My argumentation that i winterized due to their manual made them pay me a new manifold like described above
A decent sized zip tie usually works well for me to "get around the corner".

I remember when the quick drain thing was first introduced and that was all that we were supposed to do. Well, after the first couple years it was obvious that there could be (and was) blockages. I don't recall when subsequent info was provided, but honestly, I never worried about what was in a book as that is generally considered the bare minimum and mechanics will have figured out better/more reliable methods over the years from experience.

It's not uncommon for new information to come out that replaces old info and says something like "follow these new instructions or else we're not responsible" ;) The drain DOES work... as long as there's no blockages... and that's the part that takes a little more thinking "to be sure". I'm glad they covered your repair, though! :)
 
That's why I let the dealer do it or the marina do it way too many things to be messed up if you don't know what you're doing Don't want to purchase a new motor right now
 
That's why I let the dealer do it or the marina do it way too many things to be messed up if you don't know what you're doing Don't want to purchase a new motor right now
You are so right Scott. Used to always do my own, no more. $275 to winterize, fog, all that, and make sure it fires come spring with no issues. I can’t beat it.
 
That's why I let the dealer do it or the marina do it way too many things to be messed up if you don't know what you're doing Don't want to purchase a new motor right now
One year I had my dealer winterize my jetski. I didn't have a good manual and didn't really have time to learn how to do it because of other work issues. The end result was a sunken boat in Spring.

That same year my buddy had that same marina winterize his I/O. That resulted in a cracked block.

My buddy got reimbursed but I didn't.

Now, I have to say that it was one of the largest dealers in the area and in the past I praised their work. Turns out that they were sold and the new owners were not as careful in employing the right people.

Thanks but no thanks. Now I do all my own winterizing because I know it will be done right.
 
Freezing in Texas again, better run some anti-freeze through the block and out the exhaust. What with global warming, it can't stay cold for long.
 
That's why I just let the dealer do it
 
Jetski's are the easiest to winterize, put antifreeze in a bucket and use a sump pump to pump through while the engine is running. Ten minutes, just use the flush port.

I am in Maryland and it's going to be ten degrees tomorrow night! A high of mid twenties this weekend! This sucks! I am done with winter already, and ready for boating again. I think I might need to move to FL ...
 
I hear you I'm sick of winter already also can't wait to get back on the water
 
I love it. I was hot and dried out from the heat the kids keep putting up to 80 so I went out to stand in the 34* rain.
 
I just hope I did a good enough job on mine...
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Jetski's are the easiest to winterize, put antifreeze in a bucket and use a sump pump to pump through while the engine is running. Ten minutes, just use the flush port.

I am in Maryland and it's going to be ten degrees tomorrow night! A high of mid twenties this weekend! This sucks! I am done with winter already, and ready for boating again. I think I might need to move to FL ...
Do they still make 2-stroke jetskis?
 
Do they still make 2-stroke jetskis?
Not in the USA. 4-strokes self drain, so no issues with winterizing. Many old 2-strokes still in use. The spec procedure is to pull hoses and pour in anti-freeze. Using the flush port, just like using a jug and muffs on an I/O, is highly frowned upon.

"I been doin it dis way for furty fur years and ain't done never had no problem". "I tried it that way once and it broke the block". Many common sayings are heard around the boatyard. It's quite simple really. Just follow the freakin directions! Different versions for different products. Of course, you still have to read the book.
 
Do they still make 2-stroke jetskis?

Don't think so, but winterizing them is still the same. I still have 2-stroke(s) but my friends are 4-stroke and we do the same thing with his.
 
Don't think so, but winterizing them is still the same. I still have 2-stroke(s) but my friends are 4-stroke and we do the same thing with his.

I've winterized my own yamaha 4 strokes for 15 years (4 different ones, 2 at a time, current ones 8 years old). I'm in fresh water, just put them on trailer, rev the engine a few times to blow out water, change oil and park. Grease the fittings once a year as well.

Never used RV antifreeze on them at all.

Been doing small block I/Os and inboards as well, no RV antifreeze on the I/Os, but I do pump some in the inboard after draining it per manual... just in case.
 
I've winterized my own yamaha 4 strokes for 15 years (4 different ones, 2 at a time, current ones 8 years old). I'm in fresh water, just put them on trailer, rev the engine a few times to blow out water, change oil and park. Grease the fittings once a year as well.

Never used RV antifreeze on them at all.

Been doing small block I/Os and inboards as well, no RV antifreeze on the I/Os, but I do pump some in the inboard after draining it per manual... just in case.
In most cases, adding AF to an outboard is waste of money given the inherent design difference between an OB and an IO. With the exception of a few larger OB's - I believe the 350 Yahama comes to mind - because of some really small passageways that may not drain.

However, adding AF to an IO is absolutely recommended and BETTER practice than not doing it. Besides, it also adds corrosion protection to the internal, bare metal areas. Not adding it is "OK", adding it is better.
 
I've winterized my own yamaha 4 strokes for 15 years (4 different ones, 2 at a time, current ones 8 years old). I'm in fresh water, just put them on trailer, rev the engine a few times to blow out water, change oil and park. Grease the fittings once a year as well.

Never used RV antifreeze on them at all.

Been doing small block I/Os and inboards as well, no RV antifreeze on the I/Os, but I do pump some in the inboard after draining it per manual... just in case.

2 stroke jetski's especially Sea Doo's retain the water in the block and need to have AF through the block. The newer 4 stokes can also pocket water and can cause damage if it freezes if not blown out right.

Outboards usually never need to be winterized, but I didn't say they did. Not winterizing an I/O with an inboard engine, don't know what to say to that.
 
2 stroke jetski's especially Sea Doo's retain the water in the block and need to have AF through the block. The newer 4 stokes can also pocket water and can cause damage if it freezes if not blown out right.

Outboards usually never need to be winterized, but I didn't say they did. Not winterizing an I/O with an inboard engine, don't know what to say to that.

Per yamaha's owners manual, no need to do anything like you suggest. I've not used antifreeze in them for 10-15 winters without any issue. I guess it can be done if wanted, also could ship them south or put in heated storage if one doesn't trust Yamaha's owners manual or design.

The red 1976 sea ray I posted in the vintage SR thread lived in northern michigan for 25 years without AF touching it...
 
Per yamaha's owners manual, no need to do anything like you suggest. I've not used antifreeze in them for 10-15 winters without any issue. I guess it can be done if wanted, also could ship them south or put in heated storage if one doesn't trust Yamaha's owners manual or design.

The red 1976 sea ray I posted in the vintage SR thread lived in northern michigan for 25 years without AF touching it...
The manual is very specific. Following it to the letter will do a good job. The third "flush burst" should show no drops of water being expelled.

OTOH, buckets and pumps could be a disaster. If the pump volume is too high you'll end up with AF in the cylinders. Just like running on the flush port - can;t have the faucet open too much.
 

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