Diesel View / Vessel View Upgrade

Tripsdad said:
I saw the auto configure option but didn't know whether my mechanic used that or not but I'll try it. I did not see an option for hours but may need to dig a little deeper.

Were you finally able to get the existing rudder sensor on the 703?



I'll play with it a little more and then call Chad.

Thanks.
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We have a Smartcraft OEM rudder sensor and it does show on the 703.
 
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I am still playing with mine... It has so many settings it is crazy.
 
I got the rudder indicator working on the VV703 by changing the the steering input to PCM0. I changed the battery voltage at the top of the screen to fuel burn. I still have not found hours but I’ll keep looking. I have them showing on my Garmins so I know it’s available.
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First of all, you guys are amazing in the way you figure this stuff out and then share it with the group. My hat is off to each and every one of you.

Not to hijack this thread, but I was reading about VHF radios as I may be in need of a new one. Several members spoke highly of the Vesper Coretex. I currently have a Vesper XB-8000 AIS transponder so I am familiar with them. This new VHF radio combines a lot of functionality: VHF, AIS, NMEA 2000, and NMEA 0183 gateway. It got me thinking about the SmartCraft/VesselView/DieselView stuff.....Is this a way to get that 0183 data on the NMEA 2000 network? Just a thought.

Jaybeaux
 
Jaybeaux said:
First of all, you guys are amazing in the way you figure this stuff out and then share it with the group. My hat is off to each and every one of you.

Not to hijack this thread, but I was reading about VHF radios as I may be in need of a new one. Several members spoke highly of the Vesper Coretex. I currently have a Vesper XB-8000 AIS transponder so I am familiar with them. This new VHF radio combines a lot of functionality: VHF, AIS, NMEA 2000, and NMEA 0183 gateway. It got me thinking about the SmartCraft/VesselView/DieselView stuff.....Is this a way to get that 0183 data on the NMEA 2000 network? Just a thought.

Jaybeaux
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I don't believe you will find any NMEA 0183 data on the Smartcraft networks nor any compatibility. Raymarine as well as all other navigation systems manufacturers used NMEA 0183 extensively but there was no interconnection between Smartcraft and the other systems. When Mercury Vessel View 7 came out it bridged Smartcraft with NMEA 2000 but not 0183.
 
Jaybeaux said:
First of all, you guys are amazing in the way you figure this stuff out and then share it with the group. My hat is off to each and every one of you.

Not to hijack this thread, but I was reading about VHF radios as I may be in need of a new one. Several members spoke highly of the Vesper Coretex. I currently have a Vesper XB-8000 AIS transponder so I am familiar with them. This new VHF radio combines a lot of functionality: VHF, AIS, NMEA 2000, and NMEA 0183 gateway. It got me thinking about the SmartCraft/VesselView/DieselView stuff.....Is this a way to get that 0183 data on the NMEA 2000 network? Just a thought.

Jaybeaux
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Older Smartcraft units have a NMEA 0183 input so can read the data for stuff like speed, waypoints, etc. and thus do fuel consumption stats but it is one way only.
 
@ttmott and @alnav thanks for setting that straight. Seemed too easy.

While reading further, I ran across this:

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/newsro... free,SmartCraft Connect gateway from Mercury.
Tuesday, 20 April 2021, 10:00 am CDT
Garmin announces support for Mercury Marine SmartCraft engines
New SmartCraft Connect gateway brings VesselView engine data to Garmin multi-function displays
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OLATHE, Kan., April 20, 2021/Business Wire – Garmin® International, Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ:GRMN), the world’s largest1 and most innovative marine electronics manufacturer, today announced it has added support for Mercury Marine® VesselView engine data across its ECHOMAP™ Ultra, ECHOMAP UHD* and GPSMAP® series multi-function displays (MFDs).

“We’re pleased to work with Mercury to offer engine data features that our customers and OEMs have been asking for,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin vice president of worldwide sales. “VesselView compatibility gives boaters access to vital Mercury engine information directly on their Garmin display for a more integrated and convenient on-the-water experience.”

Compatible Garmin displays on Mercury-powered boats can receive engine performance data, including rpm, speed, fuel flow, temperature, trim and much more via Mercury’s new SmartCraft Connect gateway, which enables monitoring of up to four engines simultaneously.

“Our VesselView system, available to Garmin users via SmartCraft Connect, keeps track of everything and provides alerts if any engine measurements stray from the norm. That way, boaters can have peace of mind and pay attention to more important things like enjoying their time on the water,” said Rob Hackbarth, Mercury SmartCraft product category director.

VesselView functionality is expected to be available for Garmin customers in the second quarter of 2021. It will require a free software update from Garmin and the purchase of a SmartCraft Connect gateway from Mercury. To learn more, visit mercurymarine.com/smartcraftconnect or garmin.com/support.

Manufacturer of the Year by the National Marine Electronics Association (NMEA). Other Garmin marine brands include Navionics® and Fusion®. For more information, visit Garmin’s virtual pressroom at garmin.com/newsroom, contact the Media Relations department at 913-397-8200, or follow us at facebook.com/garmin, twitter.com/garminnews, instagram.com/garmin or youtube.com/garmin.

1 Based on 2019 reported sales

*ECHOMAP UHD 7-, or 9-inch units

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Which, if the SIM on the engine is compatible (or upgraded) would a VesselView 703 put all egnine data to Garmin MFDs across the NMEA 2000 network? See attached PDF.

Jaybeaux
 

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Jaybeaux said:
@ttmott and @alnav thanks for setting that straight. Seemed too easy.

While reading further, I ran across this:

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/newsroom/press-release/marine/garmin-announces-support-for-mercury-marine-smartcraft-engines/#:~:text=“VesselView compatibility gives boaters access,-the-water experience.”&text=It will require a free,SmartCraft Connect gateway from Mercury.
Tuesday, 20 April 2021, 10:00 am CDT
Garmin announces support for Mercury Marine SmartCraft engines
New SmartCraft Connect gateway brings VesselView engine data to Garmin multi-function displays
FacebookTwitterEmailCopy Link
OLATHE, Kan., April 20, 2021/Business Wire – Garmin® International, Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ:GRMN), the world’s largest1 and most innovative marine electronics manufacturer, today announced it has added support for Mercury Marine® VesselView engine data across its ECHOMAP™ Ultra, ECHOMAP UHD* and GPSMAP® series multi-function displays (MFDs).

“We’re pleased to work with Mercury to offer engine data features that our customers and OEMs have been asking for,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin vice president of worldwide sales. “VesselView compatibility gives boaters access to vital Mercury engine information directly on their Garmin display for a more integrated and convenient on-the-water experience.”

Compatible Garmin displays on Mercury-powered boats can receive engine performance data, including rpm, speed, fuel flow, temperature, trim and much more via Mercury’s new SmartCraft Connect gateway, which enables monitoring of up to four engines simultaneously.

“Our VesselView system, available to Garmin users via SmartCraft Connect, keeps track of everything and provides alerts if any engine measurements stray from the norm. That way, boaters can have peace of mind and pay attention to more important things like enjoying their time on the water,” said Rob Hackbarth, Mercury SmartCraft product category director.

VesselView functionality is expected to be available for Garmin customers in the second quarter of 2021. It will require a free software update from Garmin and the purchase of a SmartCraft Connect gateway from Mercury. To learn more, visit mercurymarine.com/smartcraftconnect or garmin.com/support.

Manufacturer of the Year by the National Marine Electronics Association (NMEA). Other Garmin marine brands include Navionics® and Fusion®. For more information, visit Garmin’s virtual pressroom at garmin.com/newsroom, contact the Media Relations department at 913-397-8200, or follow us at facebook.com/garmin, twitter.com/garminnews, instagram.com/garmin or youtube.com/garmin.

1 Based on 2019 reported sales

*ECHOMAP UHD 7-, or 9-inch units

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Which, if the SIM on the engine is compatible (or upgraded) would a VesselView 703 put all egnine data to Garmin MFDs across the NMEA 2000 network? See attached PDF.

Jaybeaux
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The Smartcraft Connect is a new and just-released gateway device that appears to obviate the need for any of the VesselView units. While earlier gateways translate most of the engine parameters to NMEA 2000 and can already be read on compatible displays like Garmins, engine fault codes could only be seen on VesselViews. The Connect along with the software update seems like it will provide all of that - the screenshots I have seen look exactly like the VesselView display. I have not seen if the Connect + software combo will provide for two-way interaction like setting troll speed and cruise control but I would expect it does, however our diesels don't use any of that in any event.
So, if you're thinking of getting a 703, it already includes a gateway, which is the VesselView Link controller shown on the schematic. That would provide you with almost all the engine data on your Garmins but you would need the 703 for engine fault data and configuration. With the Connect, you probably wouldn't need the 703 or Link at all. If I were in your shoes I would save the space you'd have to give the 703 and put another Garmin there.
I bought myself a Connect last week and have it in hand. Garmin hasn't released the software update so exactly what it will do is dependent on that. I intend to install the Connect and see what it puts over the network now, which I expect will be equivalent to what I am seeing out of my VesselView 4 now. Once the update happens, and if all the functionality is there, I will pull out the VV4 and put a second Maretron display in that space.
 
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alnav said:
The Smartcraft Connect is a new and just-released gateway device that appears to obviate the need for any of the VesselView units. While earlier gateways translate most of the engine parameters to NMEA 2000 and can already be read on compatible displays like Garmins, engine fault codes could only be seen on VesselViews. The Connect along with the software update seems like it will provide all of that - the screenshots I have seen look exactly like the VesselView display. I have not seen if the Connect + software combo will provide for two-way interaction like setting troll speed and cruise control but I would expect it does, however our diesels don't use any of that in any event.
So, if you're thinking of getting a 703, it already includes a gateway, which is the VesselView Link controller shown on the schematic. That would provide you with almost all the engine data on your Garmins but you would need the 703 for engine fault data and configuration. With the Connect, you probably wouldn't need the 703 or Link at all. If I were in your shoes I would save the space you'd have to give the 703 and put another Garmin there.
I bought myself a Connect last week and have it in hand. Garmin hasn't released the software update so exactly what it will do is dependent on that. I intend to install the Connect and see what it puts over the network now, which I expect will be equivalent to what I am seeing out of my VesselView 4 now. Once the update happens, and if all the functionality is there, I will pull out the VV4 and put a second Maretron display in that space.
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Wish I saw this 2 months ago before I spent 2 and 1/2 Boat Bucks to upgrade to the VV703. I would have added another Garmin screen instead.
 
alnav said:
The Smartcraft Connect is a new and just-released gateway device that appears to obviate the need for any of the VesselView units. While earlier gateways translate most of the engine parameters to NMEA 2000 and can already be read on compatible displays like Garmins, engine fault codes could only be seen on VesselViews. The Connect along with the software update seems like it will provide all of that - the screenshots I have seen look exactly like the VesselView display. I have not seen if the Connect + software combo will provide for two-way interaction like setting troll speed and cruise control but I would expect it does, however our diesels don't use any of that in any event.
So, if you're thinking of getting a 703, it already includes a gateway, which is the VesselView Link controller shown on the schematic. That would provide you with almost all the engine data on your Garmins but you would need the 703 for engine fault data and configuration. With the Connect, you probably wouldn't need the 703 or Link at all. If I were in your shoes I would save the space you'd have to give the 703 and put another Garmin there.
I bought myself a Connect last week and have it in hand. Garmin hasn't released the software update so exactly what it will do is dependent on that. I intend to install the Connect and see what it puts over the network now, which I expect will be equivalent to what I am seeing out of my VesselView 4 now. Once the update happens, and if all the functionality is there, I will pull out the VV4 and put a second Maretron display in that space.
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Al - are you sure about Garmin? I know that is the case for select Simrad.
 
ttmott said:
Al - are you sure about Garmin? I know that is the case for select Simrad.
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Tom, not 100% sure but I believe the Garmin software update + Connect will result in the same Smartcraft functionality as Simrad has had for a while. Garmin's press release shows a screenshot that looks identical to a VV/Simrad display. But, until the software drops there's no way to be sure. Garmin did an update in late March and seems to be on a quarterly schedule so I'm guessing we won't see that until late June.
 
Jaybeaux said:
Here is the Garmin Software update....

http://m.email.garmin.com/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=@X59lNdhNjVCUfEblPIdDrdVgyXDBg2+efXziegi9+UQ=&utm_source=Americas&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=en-US Delivery, Marine Q3 Software Update Announcement MCJT-41541

Jaybeaux
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I bought a Smartcraft Connect in anticipation of the software coming out. However, the device installs via an app. First step on the app is to enter the user's Mercury dealer code. After that, it doesn't look any more complicated than installing a VV or the Mobile device. I'm going to see if I can get a code from my servicing dealer, otherwise I might be sending it back.
 
alnav said:
I bought a Smartcraft Connect in anticipation of the software coming out. However, the device installs via an app. First step on the app is to enter the user's Mercury dealer code. After that, it doesn't look any more complicated than installing a VV or the Mobile device. I'm going to see if I can get a code from my servicing dealer, otherwise I might be sending it back.
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The "Smartcraft Connect" that you reference....is that the "Mercury SmartCraft interface" that Garmin says you need to buy from Mercury?
 
Jaybeaux said:
The "Smartcraft Connect" that you reference....is that the "Mercury SmartCraft interface" that Garmin says you need to buy from Mercury?
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Correct.
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Although it seems to be similar to the previous interface devices, I imagine the Connect adds the capability to transmit (and possibly receive) the additional data needed for Garmin (and Raymarine) MFDs to fully emulate Smartcraft control devices.
 
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