EIM to Toggle and Rocker Switches

When I sketched out doing something similar for our old 280 I was torn between using relays and adding complexity, and leaving them out for simplicity's sake. Fortunately for me I sold the boat before I actually had to worry about it
 
Does anyone have any photos of the insides of the eim modules?
I bet it wouldn't be very hard to replace the failed logic devices with some similar microprocessors ( like Arduino) and create a retrofit PCB.

Or if anyone has a failed donor board id be happy to have a go at it.
 
Darrenfon said:
We have questions! :p

How much in total for materials. Why do you think the dimmer doesn't work?
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In round numbers, about a thousand dollars. As far as the dash dimmer goes, I have no idea. On my boat the smartcraft controls the dash lights so any time the ignition keys are on the lights are on. One other quirky thing is the windlass solenoid in the bilge elec box had to be changed to a N/O instead of the latching one in there.
 
rmlsll said:
In round numbers, about a thousand dollars. As far as the dash dimmer goes, I have no idea. On my boat the smartcraft controls the dash lights so any time the ignition keys are on the lights are on. One other quirky thing is the windlass solenoid in the bilge elec box had to be changed to a N/O instead of the latching one in there.
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$1000 is 25% the cost of the Flounder Pounder kit. You just put this in reach of a large number of people that need it. I don't pretend to speak for everyone, but I can't imagine anyone not being very thankful for your contribution here. Thank you.
 
So, does canvas shrink dramatically? I can not for the life of me get both side pieces of Eisenglass to connect to the top visor and bottom snaps simultaneously. If I get one side connected, the other side has a full inch between the zippers at the top and the snaps at the bottom. :(

Just to be clear this is for the pieces that are next to the helm and the observer's seat.
 
Darrenfon said:
$1000 is 25% the cost of the Flounder Pounder kit. You just put this in reach of a large number of people that need it. I don't pretend to speak for everyone, but I can't imagine anyone not being very thankful for your contribution here. Thank you.
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Hey, if your "handy" and have the time this is a very doable project. All the information I used (EIM plug pin numbers, wire number, colors, gauges) came right off the owners manual wire diagrams for my boat that I found on the internet.
 
I still don't understand where you actually got the EIM connector? From SeaRay or you found the actual connector manuf/model number? Shouldn't that be the mating side that is mounted on the PCB in the EIM?

I've always been interested in capturing the canbus cmds going across the link (I work with and have canbus tools). Once that's understood it would be easy to debug if issues exists with keypad or EIM, and possibly rebuild the electronics. I'm not touching my working system, but if someone had a spare, I would be interested in doing some captures on a bench. But due to the cost, I assume most people aren't willing to get rid of even broken systems.
 
When mine quit working, I'm replacing the comm chips... that's probably what fails.
 
pyro said:
I still don't understand where you actually got the EIM connector? From SeaRay or you found the actual connector manuf/model number? Shouldn't that be the mating side that is mounted on the PCB in the EIM?

I've always been interested in capturing the canbus cmds going across the link (I work with and have canbus tools). Once that's understood it would be easy to debug if issues exists with keypad or EIM, and possibly rebuild the electronics. I'm not touching my working system, but if someone had a spare, I would be interested in doing some captures on a bench. But due to the cost, I assume most people aren't willing to get rid of even broken systems.
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The connector came from Mouser Electronics DRC14-40PA and the pins that go in it are 0460-215-16141
 
rmlsll said:
Hey, if your "handy" and have the time this is a very doable project. All the information I used (EIM plug pin numbers, wire number, colors, gauges) came right off the owners manual wire diagrams for my boat that I found on the internet.
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How much of this project can be done "off the boat" before heading out to install?
Also, how much wire needs to be pulled from the engine room to the helm?
Thanks
 
PeteL said:
How much of this project can be done "off the boat" before heading out to install?
Also, how much wire needs to be pulled from the engine room to the helm?
Thanks
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I assembled the switch pads and built the entire wire harness on my dinning room table.
 
I have a new to me 2002 Sea Ray 340 Sundancer. Do all 2002 have this EIM? I just got done putting the FP Marine system in an 2003 Sea Ray 280 Sundancer and it works great. I have just sold the boat and might have to do it again on my 340. For now everything is working just fine.
 
Gord said:
I have a new to me 2002 Sea Ray 340 Sundancer. Do all 2002 have this EIM? I just got done putting the FP Marine system in an 2003 Sea Ray 280 Sundancer and it works great. I have just sold the boat and might have to do it again on my 340. For now everything is working just fine.
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I think the question would probably be better directed at Sea Ray. I think the answer from our perspective is that the switchpad/EIM set up is similar to engine oil filters. All engines have them, oil filters are built on the same technology, but specific filters are used on specific engines although the same filter may be used on different engine designs. So I would answer your question with the switchpad EIM technology was widely used on large sea rays of that vintage but they weren't necessarily the same parts. Yes the switchpad used in thread is the same as used on the 280, but I don't know if the EIM shares the same part number.
 
rmlsll said:
I assembled the switch pads and built the entire wire harness on my dinning room table.
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That's good to know. how much wire needs to be pulled to the aft EIM location? That seems to be the most involved part of the install. The assembly at home helps. I really like this option to delete circuits I don't need (Hatch lift, vent, etc....)
 
PeteL said:
That's good to know. how much wire needs to be pulled to the aft EIM location? That seems to be the most involved part of the install. The assembly at home helps. I really like this option to delete circuits I don't need (Hatch lift, vent, etc....)
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I don't remember exact length of wire, I do remember just using a tape measure to get rough numbers and adding a few feed for good measure.
 
Any body know where to get a starboard switch pad #1810626 for a 2006 340DA?
 
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