Fell off bow and hit by prop

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Great Lakes, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    I have a pretty nasty photo of a guy that fell off the bow of a boat (his feet were dangling off side) and the props got him in the arm and torso.

    I don’t know if I can post it though. What’s the rules for this? The guy is still alive and will recover fully.

    However I feel like there’s been a lot of talk on here about not letting guest on the bow while underway. Usually a strong photo says a lot and will stick with you

    Let me know if I can post it
     
  2. scoflaw

    scoflaw Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    cape cod mass
    1999 Powerquest legend 260 sx
    502 mpi Bravo 1
    Also illegal in the 2 states I boat in
     
  3. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member

    984
    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    19 states have universal motorcycle helmet laws...

    I don't think a picture is going to fix the problem.... The people that know it's wrong/dangerous will get justification... The people that do it will say they are smarter or won't happen to them.... You can't win.

    The states that don't have helmet laws.... Most riders don't wear them. I don't agree with government dictating my decisions.... But sometimes it's necessary because you can't fix stupid.
     
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  4. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    597
    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer 2001
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    Sound like a public service announcement. I know I'm not popular when I say no to people riding up there, but, Im here for your safety first and foremost.
     
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  5. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    ...or when the wife is on the bow or platform while docking. News flash, you’re useless trying to stop a 20,000lb boat.

    Keep your wife in the cockpit gentlemen!
     
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  6. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    You never let your wife throw a line?
     
  7. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    Totally agree.....no reason for people standing on the swim platform while the boat is being docked. They are right above the props and a distracted Captain would chop 'em up if they were to slip in. Stay in the cockpit. I would never say anything because I am a "live and let live" type and most people do not take constructive criticism well.
     
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  8. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    Absolutely not. Why would she need to throw a line from bow? If she needs to throw one to a dockhand then it’s from the cockpit transom door area. Especially when docking at home marina when lines are set on the dock. I see this a ton at my marina.
     
  9. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    Huh? Hmm...my wife is on the bow every single time I dock. I come in at about .0658 knots and I can assure you she does a lot for all 120lbs of her. And in fact she does direct the boat away from the center pylon from time to time....of course your mileage may vary.
     
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  10. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    I'd agree on the swim platform bit. I would not feel comfortable with someone being back there. But the bow...at docking speeds? It's probably safer up there then it is standing next to me when I start to have a nearly-botched approach to the slip :)
     
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  11. b_arrington

    b_arrington Active Member

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    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    270 Amberjack (2006)
    AB Ventus 9 VL RIB
    350 Mag MPI Horizon w/ BIII
    1998 Envinrude 15 HP 2-stroke
    I say post it, but as a thumbnail. Let people click on it if they want.

    I'm firmly in the no riding on the bow camp. I let my kids sit on the cabin steps at idle speed, but that's behind the windshield.

    Last week I took a bunch of family on a ride with another boat. I had to transfer a couple kids to my boat when the other one had some engine trouble. I was asked if we could put some kids on the bow so everyone could see the sights. I was not popular when I firmly said NO, absolutely not. Much better than someone falling off though.

    The only exception is sometimes I allow my wife or myself on the bow at final approach to pick up a mooring.
     
  12. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member

    984
    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I agree ...When the boat is in the slip and stopped then go up to the bow and it's usually me. If I can't dock the boat on my own ...I won't park in a slip.. I have heard and seen too many things go wrong.
     
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  13. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
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  14. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    I see no problem with a line handler on the bow, at idle speeds, in normal conditions. My point is people on the platform when the boat is backing into the slip. It is pointless and asking for trouble in my opinion.
     
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  15. HavnFunYet?

    HavnFunYet? Member

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    Mar 16, 2008
    Michigan
    1998 Sea Ray 370 DA
    310 Mercury Hypalon w 9.9 Merc
    454 Mercruiser 7.4 MPI's
    This happened recently nearby and the poor guy actually lost his leg from the mid thigh up.
     
  16. boatman37

    boatman37 Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2015
    pittsburgh
    2006 Crownline 250CR
    Previous: 1986 Sea Ray 250 Sundancer
    5.7 Merc
    My next door neighbors son was killed by a prop. I think it was in Alabama about 10 years ago or so. Not sure of the details but I do know he died from it and I think it was from his own boat with somebody else driving. The neighbor (mother) died last year but the ladies daughter (sister of the one killed) lives beside us now but I'm not about to ask her the details.
     
  17. Jimmy Buoy

    Jimmy Buoy Active Member

    Dec 3, 2008
    Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
    340 Amberjack
    twin 8.1S 370 Hp + 4.5 Westerbeke Genset
    Yep, that person is lucky to be alive and will have some nasty scars for life. I'm curious as to the facts of the incident. My guess is that it didn't happen while docking...
     
  18. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Active Member

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    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    Properly designed boats allow you to handle lines and such from the bow -- they tend to be flat with wide side decks. Unfortunately, many of today's designs are "rounded" and can lead to obvious problems.
     
  19. importmonkey

    importmonkey Opinionated Member

    896
    Jul 9, 2015
    Middle River, MD
    2007 44 Sundancer
    QSC 500s
    Ouch.

    Hopefully he was drunk enough not to feel that.
     
  20. tc410

    tc410 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Oct 9, 2006
    Charlevoix, MI/Jupiter, FL
    2005 550DB
    MAN CRM-900
    My wife is on the bow every time we approach a dock. But to answer this question, no, I NEVER let my wife throw a line. Driving the boat is my job. And if I can’t get the boat up to the dock, under complete control, so she can HAND the line to the dock attendant, then I have no business driving a boat.

    As for the OP’s thread, I’m with the others here that suggest there’s more to the story. This is not the outcome of a slow speed dock maneuver.
     
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