Fox Marine Gateway

Discussion in 'Installation Photos/Specs' started by Daleo56, Nov 21, 2016.

  1. scooper321

    scooper321 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    683
    Jul 4, 2015
    Baltimore, MD
    Listed for sale: "Lollygagger" 2003 320DA
    Boat Under Contract: Name TBD, 2003 400DB
    Now: Twin 5.7L Horizon Mercruiser (350 MAG MPI) V-drives
    Forthcoming: Twin Cummins 6CTA-8.3
    That's the insight I was looking for!!!
     
  2. suss1173

    suss1173 Member

    270
    Jul 11, 2013
    Sea Cliff, NY
    01- 340 with 7.4 Horizon's.
    Past- Pachanga 27- twin 350's, 94-300 DA with twin 350's Alpha gen 2
    Twin 350 Mag's
    I know this is an old thread. However, I was wondering if your still using the Fox Marine stuff and if you have a long term up date.
     
  3. Daleo56

    Daleo56 Member

    69
    Aug 9, 2016
    Long Beach, CA
    1998 Sea Ray 370 AC
    454 Mercruisers
    I still have the Fox Marine Gateways and they still work great! I recently added a Raymarine A128 and it sees the Fox Marine data was well.

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  4. suss1173

    suss1173 Member

    270
    Jul 11, 2013
    Sea Cliff, NY
    01- 340 with 7.4 Horizon's.
    Past- Pachanga 27- twin 350's, 94-300 DA with twin 350's Alpha gen 2
    Twin 350 Mag's
    Thanks for the reply Tim.
     
  5. Fly'n Family

    Fly'n Family Active Member

    637
    Sep 19, 2013
    TX / CO
    2002 Cruisers Yachts 3870
    2003 Boston Whaler Sport 130 w/40 hp Merc
    Twin 425hp Crusaders
    @Daleo56 Appreciate your write-up. I've thought about doing this for awhile, and am going to go ahead and pull the trigger and get this project done in the next two weeks while the weather's cooler.

    For your power source, did you run it to a battery as depicted on their (Fox) diagram, or did you use a power source at the helm?

    I'm assuming you mounted the power on/off switch at the helm.

    Thanks again...
     
  6. Third Edition

    Third Edition Active Member

    219
    Apr 9, 2017
    NE Florida
    360 Sundancer 2002
    T-8.1L V-drives
    I wanted this for my boat, but it has Motorola ecm and Fox won't work with them.
     
  7. Daleo56

    Daleo56 Member

    69
    Aug 9, 2016
    Long Beach, CA
    1998 Sea Ray 370 AC
    454 Mercruisers
    The power for the NMEA 2000 backbone is on a separate switch at the helm. As soon as I start the engines I turn on the switch (or turn it off and on) so the engines can notify the Fox devices.
     
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  8. Fly'n Family

    Fly'n Family Active Member

    637
    Sep 19, 2013
    TX / CO
    2002 Cruisers Yachts 3870
    2003 Boston Whaler Sport 130 w/40 hp Merc
    Twin 425hp Crusaders
    Makes sense, thank you for your reply.
     
  9. Fly'n Family

    Fly'n Family Active Member

    637
    Sep 19, 2013
    TX / CO
    2002 Cruisers Yachts 3870
    2003 Boston Whaler Sport 130 w/40 hp Merc
    Twin 425hp Crusaders
    Just ordered my two Fox units for MEFI 4 engines, as well as the accompanying Garmin backbone kit and associated required items.

    Hope to install this project towards the end of next week. Fingers crossed...
     
  10. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Active Member

    719
    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI V drives
    I was the original beta tester for the Fox Marine Gateway. It has been great to see fuel burn, and troubleshoot the engines without a RINDA on 1998/1999 engines. I have a combination Sea Talk ng and Device Net backbone. They all play well together. I use dedicated ST70's for my engine monitoring, but can display on my A95 chartplotter as well. Mine are MEFI-3
     
  11. Fly'n Family

    Fly'n Family Active Member

    637
    Sep 19, 2013
    TX / CO
    2002 Cruisers Yachts 3870
    2003 Boston Whaler Sport 130 w/40 hp Merc
    Twin 425hp Crusaders
    Great to know, and it sounds like everything is still working well. How long ago did you do yours?

    I'll be running mine through a single chart plotter, a Garmin 942xs. Looking forward to getting accurate info and all of the detailed info via the app.
     
  12. P Knight

    P Knight New Member

    2
    Jan 13, 2016
    Bay City, MI
    1999 370 Sundancer
    Horizon 454
    I installed the Fox Marine Gateways on my '99 370 Sundancer with Horizon 7.4L two years ago. I supply the data via the NMEA2000 to a Garmin 741 and have also used the Bluetooth App feature to monitor my Knock Sensor in real time. It would register for just a second or two but would latch the system alarm until that engine was shutdown. The ability to watch that alarm status in real time was the only way I know to nail down the issue. Swapped in a new sensor and haven't had it repeat. I also enter my fuel additions to the Garmin at the fuel dock and am consistently within a gallon or two when I fill the tanks the next time. I barely refer to my dash gauges anymore. It's a great feature I wouldn't be without if it was compatible with my engines.
     
  13. Fly'n Family

    Fly'n Family Active Member

    637
    Sep 19, 2013
    TX / CO
    2002 Cruisers Yachts 3870
    2003 Boston Whaler Sport 130 w/40 hp Merc
    Twin 425hp Crusaders
    Installed today, count me in as a huge fan of this Fox Marine set-up.

    Worked with an avionics gent, we spoke with Allen at Fox and the boxes came pre-set and labled port/starboard for my non-slaved engine set-up. This was very helpful as there's different adjustments that have to be made for a given two engine system.

    Avionics gent was very well versed, and the install was fairly quick, very clean, and produced the immediate desired results the first time the N2k backbone was powered. It all looked pretty straight forward, and it was even more straight forward than I had anticipated.

    One of the units and associated gear laid out. Note - trust but verify. My Garmin N2k starter kit purchased from West Marine did NOT have a critical component in the package - the N2k power cable. That left me scrambling, on a Sunday - and of course West Marine didn't have any. Fortunately I was able to source a generic one at Bass Pro.
    N2k pre install.jpg
    The box plugs neatly into the 10 pin harness used for diagnostics.
    N2k 10 pin.jpg
    Mounted them on the fire wall forward of each motor
    N2k Fox mounted.jpg
    Powered the backbone through a simple switch, with power sourced independently for the system. Didn't want to have another hole cut in the boat, but having it as it's own independent system was worth it. Spent the extra buck having a switch with a light on it for ease of use.
    N2k switch.jpg
    End result is now having a full backbone in place, being able to get highly accurate information - I was surprised just how "off" the standard gauges were - and critically, using the Fox app a myriad of engine data is available in real-time. Almost like having a Rinda tool plugged in and on-demand. Quite impressive.

    Didn't have time to sort out the wide variety of display options, there's almost to many....but look forward to playing with it next time at the boat.
    N2k display.jpg
     
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  14. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    Very cool right up and photos. Thank you for sharing!
     
  15. Ezsteps

    Ezsteps Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    585
    Nov 14, 2015
    Lake St. Clair-- Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    1999 400 Sundancer, YL310 Zodiac
    7.4 Mercuisers Horizons 380 hp ea., 9.9 hp Mercury
    Fly'n Family, Nice and thanks for the pics. This is on my to-do list.
     
  16. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Active Member

    719
    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI V drives
    At least 4 years
     
  17. suss1173

    suss1173 Member

    270
    Jul 11, 2013
    Sea Cliff, NY
    01- 340 with 7.4 Horizon's.
    Past- Pachanga 27- twin 350's, 94-300 DA with twin 350's Alpha gen 2
    Twin 350 Mag's
    Fly-n-family great writeup and thanks for sharing.

    This is on my (long) list of future projects.
     

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