Global Warming

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  1. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

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  2. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

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    Global warming is playing havoc on Minnesota's citrus crops this year.
     
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  3. susanandlance

    susanandlance Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Hottest spring, summer and fall I can remember in 58 yrs...…….
     
  4. Arickosmo

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    gotta believe...
     
  5. susanandlance

    susanandlance Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Yup, somethings going on is what I believe, but hey, lets keep burning coal and keep fracking and see what happens. I feel sorry for the young people that have to live with what we left them.....pretty sad :(
     
  6. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

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    I struggle with supporting any concept which is politically driven.

    Take clean air and water. The US has made significant progress on both over the past 150 years and ranks in the top 10 countries worldwide out of 200. You can measure it and compare it to other countries and see without any argument that emissions are down and water purity is up. That is great for the American people.

    In comparison....Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Crisis can't be measured unless you put your thumb on the scale. There in lies the problem. AOC's Green Plan had little to do with making anything better. It was designed by her former Chief of Staff to force economic disruption and income redistribution while masquerading as saving the planet. That frankly hurts any meaningful investments because most people don't like being lied to.

    I do believe that each of us needs to do what we can to make the world a better place. I just believe that if you are relying on a 15 year old and AOC as your climate experts....you are bound to end up in the wrong place.
     
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  7. OllieC

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    We need to stop "Man Made Volcanic Activity".
     
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  8. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

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    The reason you don't see climate protestors in China is because China is already communist.
     
  9. M Prod

    M Prod Well-Known Member

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    Only in the US is it considered “politically motivated”.

    Remember how in the 50’s and 60’s Big Tobacco spent billions on junk science and propaganda to convince half the US population that smoking didn’t cause cancer? Politicians backed it too as there was a lot of money in it for them. It was also considered politically motivated. And hey it worked ..for a time. I think it’s pretty universally accepted that today, smoking is bad for you and indeed causes cancer.

    Fast forward to the current situation ...Exactly what’s happening now with big oil and climate change. Big money for all who continue to propagate that the current climate crisis is not caused or accelerated by carbon emissions. And again ..it works. As evidenced right here in this thread.
     
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  10. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

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    I'm just curious ......if you believe this narrative and the dubious people pushing it.....why do you have a boat?

    The vast majority of boats in the US are for recreation which would suggest that they don't serve a purpose other than to provide a pleasurable experience to their owners. I would bet that a week of recreational boating would equal a year of car emissions perhaps more.

    If you believe it is akin to tobacco....then why have one?
     
  11. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    The Sahara Desert used to be lush and green with rivers and lakes not to long ago. It's about the size of the USA, all 50 states. Some scientist figure the people that lived there must of had too many goats....and that's what turned it into a desert. I don't know if goat farts did it or if they just ate everything that was green. That would be lots of goats I'd think. It's amazing how they figure that stuff out, who'd a thought.
     
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  12. M Prod

    M Prod Well-Known Member

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    You guys just prove my point.

    Sahara transformation happened over thousands of years. The current cli ..oh never mind ..I’m wasting key strokes.

    I own a boat because I love the water. I own a Sea Ray because I have a small child and need to get places fast. As soon as they make an electric boat that will do 23kts I’m in.
     
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  13. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

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    Maybe.....but if you really believed the Global "Whatever" (Warming, Cooling, Crisis, Change) why own a boat which burns 1000's of gallons of irreplaceable fossil fuel and is allegedly destroying the atmosphere of the planet?

    Electrics only make the owner feel better since they shift the burden of burning of fossil fuels away from their vehicle to a fossil fuel generation plant. I would wager that we would burn far more fossil fuel in the US if we could snap our fingers and make everything electric tomorrow. The generation systems of wind and solar would require a massive fossil fuel or nuclear program to generate enough electricity to support cars homes and boats. Add to that the amount of fossil fuel you would burn to build a new distribution network and the folly of this "science" is quite clear.


    Maybe it's just me....but supporting people who have a long history of always being wrong about the planet just doesn't make any sense. Look at the history of dire predictions about the planet......not a single one has ever proved out. On the other hand......the people who saw through the fabrication of weather results have always been proven right.

    I still believe each of us should do our part to make this a better place but that requires people to think for themselves and make thoughtful decisions.
     
  14. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    The moon can get pretty cold, around -260F. Scientist say that humans changed that when they went there. When the guys walked around on the moon they left footprints. They disturbed the surface exposing some dirt that was darker than the very surface dirt. The darker dirt absorbs more heat...those tracks increased the moons surface temperature 6 degrees they say.

    The moon is pretty big, only been 12 people that ever walked on it...there's been about 100 billion folks living on the earth, every one has left their footprint so to speak.

    Speaking of footprints...I remember when I was little, playing outside on the lawn, when the sun would go down the grass would get cool and damp and my feet would get cold. I'd go stand on the edge of the street to warm them up. I used to wonder why that was.

    Just looked out the window, there's about 8" of global warming on the car. I gotta plow and shovel today.
     
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  15. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

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    :)
     
  16. susanandlance

    susanandlance Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    81 degrees on Dec 1st here...….
     
  17. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

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    Woody,
    I wonder if you could tell the difference between -260F and -254F degrees on the moon? Does the 6 degrees make it tee-shirt weather?
     
  18. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

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    1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
    2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
    3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000
    4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
    5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
    6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070
    7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
    8. 1974: Another Ice Age?
    9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
    10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
    11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
    12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
    13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
    14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
    15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
    16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
    17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
    18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
    19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
    20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
    21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
    22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
    23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
    24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
    25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
    26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
    27. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
    28. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
    29. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
    30. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
    31. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
    32. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
    33. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000
    34. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020
    35. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010
    36. 2006: Super Hurricanes!
    37. 2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
    38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
    39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
    40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
    41. 1970s: Killer Bees!
    Here's the Link which includes sources from the "Scientific Community"
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...we-may-lose-the-planet-for-our-grandchildren/

    Control the climate, control the population by eliminating private property rights & capitalism.
     
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  19. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Don't forget these guys Ollie. They're supposed to be gone along with the arctic ice. I've read the population has actually gotten larger.
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  20. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

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    LOL!

    You can still hunt them......even during the peak of their impending extinction 10 years ago ;)
     
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