Gun Rights

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  1. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    To the hardcore gun owners and gun rights folks here. IF you have any plan to come here to Richmond VA on Jan 20th to help support Virginian gun owners rights, PLEASE DONT!

    It is shaping up to be worse than Charlottesville. Many out of state groups that have no right to be here, many groups bring their agendas, and many folks that just want to start trouble to prove the point that gun laws are needed.

    It is going to be a powder keg with a short fuse. Stay home and stay safe, let us fight our own fight. When this stupidity spreads to your state (and it will) it will be your turn.

    Dems are passing bills in the middle of the night now to hide what they are doing from the public. It's the same tactic they are using to remove monuments. Less voters and press around to speak out against what they are up to.
     
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  2. LTD.330

    LTD.330 Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    Lake Erie
    1999 Sundancer 330
    7.4 MPI
    Good Luck. I've been watching the legislative shenanigans in Va and am in utter disbelief. Civil War 2.0 has been raging in a cold war state for several years. I fear what could happen in Virginia if some of the proposals are actually implemented.
     
  3. Chris-380

    Chris-380 Active Member

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    Jan 20, 2019
    Pontoon Beach IL
    380 Sundancer 2000
    454 Horizon w/V drives
    It's sucks that they pass bills in the middle of the night, I watched the anti union "right to work for less" laws pass the same way..... good luck with your fight.

     
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  4. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    Whatever happens here the Democratics and our Governor are to blame. They will have brought this harm to all Virginians and it will spread to other states.
     
  5. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

    Dec 25, 2006
    Washington DC
    1994 370 Express Cruiser
    454 Mercruisers
    We will see..... The most onerous bill died overnight which sought to limit magazine capacities and define "assault weapons". I expect the remaining bills to be watered down further but still pass.
     
  6. Loyd Dinneen

    Loyd Dinneen Active Member

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    Jul 29, 2017
    Las Vegas
    1977 Sea ray 240 SDA cruiser w/ twin 470 mercs.
    Twin 470 Mercruisers
    Remember who voted those democrat clowns in, the very democrats that are now crying fowl. Vote for the person not because they are a democrat or a republican, you will vote in a better choice. Also look at the person and see what they have accomplished in the time they have been in office, did they support you or line their pockets with special interest money? Think about it!!
     
  7. DWABoat

    DWABoat Active Member

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    Aug 13, 2019
    S Louisiana
    2001 280 Sundancer
    1989 220CC Cuddy Cabin
    Twin 4.3 w/Alpha Ones
    5.7 Mercruiser Alpha One
    I wish what was happening in Virginia did not affect the rest of us, but we know it does. Unfortunately the fools elected by other states impact us all (Pelosi, AOC, Schiff, etc). I know they are supposedly state laws but we all travel in and around Virginia- a great place to visit.
    I am praying all holds peaceful. Where I am from, Louisiana, many bad things could happen if the government tried to take guns from these southern folks. I would never support violence. We vote! Let’s hope the wave does not spread here.
     
  8. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    I agree, someone voted these clowns in and I will not post my views on who did that here. I won't turn this into a political thread. My goal here is to keep our SeaRay family safe, stay away from Richmond on Lee / Jackson Day.

    I don't vote by party, I want someone who will get the job done. Just seem none of them really want to do the job at all.

    I did see that the definition of assault weapon failed in the House last night. I do think gun owners brought enough pressure to make House members see the righting on the wall.

    They did forward the Red Flag, one gun a month, and background checks
     
  9. RBB

    RBB Member

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    Dec 18, 2019
    Kentucky
    2004 390 MY
    8.1’s
    Our home county here in Ky just passed
     
  10. RBB

    RBB Member

    69
    Dec 18, 2019
    Kentucky
    2004 390 MY
    8.1’s
    the county commission held a special meeting last week, we are now a sanctuary county when it comes to imposing gun control laws.
     
  11. DWABoat

    DWABoat Active Member

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    Aug 13, 2019
    S Louisiana
    2001 280 Sundancer
    1989 220CC Cuddy Cabin
    Twin 4.3 w/Alpha Ones
    5.7 Mercruiser Alpha One
    Dwna,
    Thanks for warning the boating community about the potential danger over there. I have found boaters and RV campers seem to transcend political ideology and blend much easier than those not sharing the hobbies. I guess boating and camping draw people who are more open to other ideas.
    I am a proudly registered Independent!
    Not only do I strongly support term limits for all elected officials, but I want to extend that to restricting the children of elected officials to not being able to hold the same office as the parent. Sorry, kids - but there should be no dynasties (like the Bush’s) in this country.
    Oh - and Geaux Tigers!
     
  12. ttmott

    ttmott PhD in OCD GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    The wealth is moving out of areas with overhanded progressive strategy's. With the wealth leaving so do the business'. This has a tendency to turn things around.
     
  13. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    We briefly considered a move to the Western suburbs of Richmond about a dozen years ago. Looked around and really loved it but it just wasn’t in the cards at the time.
    Boy am I glad it didn’t work out.
    It would have really pissed me off had I relocated only to see the same thing happen there that I was fleeing up here.
    The densely populated DC suburbs look like they are wagging the dog the same way New York City does here in NYS.
    We knocked North Carolina and Florida off the list of possible relocation states because most that flee from up here go to those two places and they’ll be trashed in the next decade.
     
  14. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    Can you explain what you mean?
     
  15. ttmott

    ttmott PhD in OCD GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    Sure - first Let's not confuse "wealth" with "wealthy". Let's also agree that wealth as a demographic is that which returns revenue to a city, county, or state. Primarily, wealth are the senior wage earners; blue collar and white collar; those who own homes, have a savings / retirement program, or more defined - those that pay the taxes, fees, and absorb the cost of living while skimming a bit of a margin. When wealth on an individual level becomes eroded due to policies that are not designed to sustain / create wealth or enhance financial positions then those individuals pack up and leave. When SALT was no longer a federal tax deduction loss of wealth became quite apparent; even to those in the media (the idiots of our society). The loss of the SALT deduction impacted wealth the greatest in the progressive states and cities; and, definitively so. Progressive strategy tends to overextend regulation, increase government oversight, increase government size, regulate growth more strictly, and consequently, provide less in general to a community for the revenue received (the Arts withstanding). In other words, cost of living becomes more burdensome, wealth is eroded, people leave. People that remain tend to become disenchanted, beat down, depressed, and GDP efficiency suffers.
    So, without a trained, efficient workforce there is no incentive for a technology company (example) to remain and they pull up roots and build new facilities where that qualified workforce resides in a more successful and comfortable environment. All of this "squawk" about minimum wage increase standards (a progressive strategy) is simply to shore up those areas that are eroding; a temporary patch to the failed enterprise. Additionally, without a qualified in-place workforce corporations do not establish a new presence in a location. Remember, corporations are the seeds of wealth but not wealth in themselves. Amazon is a great example with respect to planning a new facility in NYC; The city rolled out the red carpet in incentives for the company to move there but in reality the workforce was eroding and didn't end up being the best business model in the long term. AOC's bumbling comment simply turned the light bulb on to reveal the plan's demise to the media; Amazon didn't terminate the NYC plan because of AOC....
    Generally, the more progressive communities end up being a self-eating watermelon and consequently suitable only for the wealthy.
     
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  16. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    Ok, thank you. I just didn't understand what you were saying

    I have no doubt this government stupidity will spread. It will spread northward at first then to the west. Once the states find how far they can push they all will follow.
     
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  17. JimG

    JimG Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2008
    Southern WV
    2007 310 DA
    Kohler 5ECD
    Twin 350 Mags
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drives
  18. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    He has already done that and given all the teen pages the day off for fear of their safety

    I'd like to correct myself. He banned weapons inside the the building earlier. On he want to ban weapons on the grounds as well.
     
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  19. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Am I the only one who sees the irony in a situation where the state government's leaders are afraid of a large mass of legal, gun owning citizens showing up at the capital steps to protest what that leaders are wanting to pass in the form of onerous gun legislation?

    Is VA's governor so blind that he cannot see that the only people who obey any laws are the same ones who are obeying them now? And the only ones who will easily disobey or disregard any new laws are the same ones who easily disobey existing laws?

    Shakin' my head over this.
     
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  20. JimG

    JimG Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2008
    Southern WV
    2007 310 DA
    Kohler 5ECD
    Twin 350 Mags
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drives
    There's been a standing saying here in WV... They call it the Commonwealth of Virginia, we call it the communist Virginia.
     

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