They are tasty....but the season is over. All we got now is beer
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They are tasty....but the season is over. All we got now is beer
Are you guys going to shut this down or do I need to go buy some more popcorn?
You can buy more popcorn but I'm done. Save the glasses though....
- Oct 12, 2007
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That's why I have stopped responding to these kind of threads also, tired of typing the same advice over and over again, only to be ignored by the OP. Very frustrating to say the least.
Woody
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This site is a bit extremist when it comes to portable generators. If you're really concerned about minimal risk to your loved ones then selling your boat would be a much larger step toward that goal.
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Randy lay there like a slug. It was his only defense.
Hold on there Thurston- Seahorse has been actively engaged in this dialog and maybe, quite possibly really needs some good data and background on the good, the bad, and how to do something correctly. You of anyone here should point him/her to some of the other informative postings and information related to a fair question rather than a pithy quip. I would consider taking a step back and be a bit more proactive as an "administrator".
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Boater420
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Looking at the chart I posted above...ALCOHOL was the #1 contributing factor in nearly a hundred deaths in 2016, yet we all STILL go boating and take our chances with the drunks. There's no way to prepare for an inebriated boater. How do you know when they're going to cross your path? Chances are, if you're at anchor you won't be able to do a thing. Perhaps if underway there might be a slim chance of avoidance.
There were 3 other factors (speed, inexperience, hazardous waters) that could also take your life while boating yet we still take our chances. With all the other possible ways to die while boating why do we demonize the one potential danger we can monitor, prepare for, and minimize the risks and dangers?
If you're worried about dying on your boat....sell it.
cwiert
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If anything, hopefully this thread will make those who choose to use portable generators be even more careful when using them. Knowledge is power and it never hurts to get a refresher on all the risks involved regardless of if they're big or small. I appreciate all the feedback from both sides and will definitely be even more cautious when operating the generator. In fact, this thread was a great reminder that I should replace the batteries in my CO detector. So thank you all for that.
- Oct 12, 2007
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You've been here long enough to know the long history of this subject on this site. The frustration lies not only with OP, but the countless people who come on this site, solicit advice and then promptly ignore it. It gets old. My duties as administrator don't include babysitting, sorry.
There is a means to search topics, use it.
Yes sir you are right however to opine with nothing of value and inflame and alienate a member is out of line; way out of line for one of the management of the site, that is my opinion and I believe this forum needs to be above that type of rhetoric. Is it not best to stay silent or is this the con-ops of the site?
This should probably have been a PM to you but..... In the heat of battle run or draw your sword...
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Kind of a cynical attitude.... Sure boating CAN be dangerous, so can driving/riding in a car, flying a plane, sky diving, riding a motorcycle, etc. But people do those things daily; some people die doing them. However, most people take precautions to be safe and stay alive when doing them. I remember the first car I owned with seat belts....never wore them, didn't need them. Now I can't even imagine driving without one. I never wore a bicycle helmet when riding a bike, for years. I wear one now.
There are a couple of discussions going on here within the main discussion. Seahorse came on the site and asked for comments regarding the use of a portable generator on his boat. If he had used the search function of the site he most likely would have withheld the question. Some think its OK....some think not. There are some, I'm sure that do not wear seatbelts in a car and I see people riding a bike without a helmet. If someone comes to me and says, "I want to start driving a car. What should I know?" Part of my answer will be, "Always wear your seatbelt, its been proven to save lives." If that person chooses to drive without a seatbelt it's their choice, but I am going to give them the safety advice regardless. Seahorse asked and received answers. He can do what he wants and now, hopefully, he fully understands the risks associated using the generator. An inverter and a couple of batteries is a safer way to make coffee and thaw a frozen meal.
I strongly share Scott's views. Regardless of the topic, in the 10 years I have been a member of this site there have been countless numbers of members, guests, newbies or whatever, that have asked opinions of those of us on here with more experience and wisdom, of boats and boating, and then, when given advice to keep them safe, make a project faster or easier, shown where and how to acquire something, etc. have then said, "Well I'm not doing it that way." I can't speak for Scott but I like helping people less experienced than I. But when I stop and take the time to try and help and I get symbolic "F--- you" tossed at me it get's old. We have what, like 10,000 members? That is a tremendous amount of collective knowledge, experience and wisdom. I can't count the number of times I have been grateful for this resource. I believe Scott's point is why ask for advice if you are going to disregard it anyway. He's right....it gets old. For me, I think I'll just go back to being a lurker.
Boater420
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I believe the problem here is you both feel your advice (regarding portable generators) is the only acceptable policy, when in fact it's just one side of a discussion. It's not right or wrong, merely one person's input to be used at the OP 's discretion.
I'm sure the OP respects your input and years of experience as boaters. In this instance, they chose to go their own way. It's nothing personal, just one man making a decision based off the input received from the forum. There's no need to become a lurker : )
Thanks....I don't wanna be a lurker! You are right and I do appreciate your comments. I think I speak for Scott as well when I say this is not the only instance of ignored or I guess I should say, unheeded advice.
I guess at my age I've tried to mitigate the chances to get hurt or worse. I know when I ride my bike now I am so much more cautious. When I was in my 30s and 40s I would fly down a mountain trail as fast as I could go, the terrain so rough I could barely hang on and never a helmet....that was for pussies. When I was younger I never thought I was going to die.
- Oct 12, 2007
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You are entitled to your opinion, but let me set something straight. I am a member of this site and was long before I VOLUNTEERED for the role of administrator. I give up my free time to help the members of this site, a lot of it. Most of it takes place behind the scenes. I am not compensated, nor have I ever asked to be. I do it because I enjoy helping people. The role is a thankless position, and I know from my experience as an ALPA MEC representative, that you can not please everyone. You do one thing, you piss off another group...there is no end other than it is a labor of love. I have no regrets about performing the duties, and I feel I do it well....however, I am entitled to my opinion too, am I not?
- Oct 12, 2007
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You pretty much nailed my intent....thanks!
Good on you; and it certainly does not go unappreciated; your work here is noted and respected but I would hope with that, respect to others is also a part of the responsibilities. Yes - We are all entitled to opinion; opinions can be constructive, educational, and humorous but can also be spiteful, hurtful, and callous; which side should we be on....
So, how about we leave it here crack a beer and return to our normally scheduled programming?
- Oct 12, 2007
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Sounds good to me...cheers!
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Thanks for all your responses. I have learned something - before I ask a question - check and see if someone else has asked the same question - don't want to waste anyone's time. I have used portable generators for years camping - I know the inherent risk. As to my question I simply wanted to know how many people use them while boating and maybe get a heads up on this application. Nothing more. To those that answered that question thank you.
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GMA..without a generator.... Now put a portable generator on the boat ..... Why would you do such a thing ?
Great story. This should be posted on our Home Page. CO is invisible and odorless. Why take a chance.