IMMACULATE 450DA NOW FOR SALE

Stee6043 said:
I just couldn't take it anymore. I've been watching this post all along enjoying the banter and the disbelief that it's still not sold.

I needed a mental break on my lunch hour today so I did a search within 2000 miles of my home port in Michigan. I was shocked to find 17 450 DA's listed 1994-1997. That's a lot more than I was expecting. I also checked out NADA, for kicks.

Here's what I found today. Frank is not the highest price out there. Above average, yes. Above NADA, yes. I just wonder if it's competition. A lot of boat buyers would (wrongly) convince themselves that they can wax their way into "immaculate" to save $30k :). Some may also have concerns over financing if she didn't survey close enough to the equity they'd need to make the purchase.

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When the price is right, his phone will start to ring.
 
no matter how nice it is , age is a big factor in anything.
 
We all like to think our boats are the nicest around. I got close to a full price offer on mine but thought it was low by $2,000. I asked my broker if I should counter the offer and he advised against it. Glad I took his advice. We just went through this with our lake home. Thought the offer was too low. Broker reminded me of the real estate taxes I would avoid along with the monthly landscaping fees. I made up the reduced selling price by investing the cash in the market in two months and the hassles of owning a home I no longer wanted were history.
 
B BARKER said:
I like your post dwna1a #122 my thoughts exactly...No survey needed.. The one boat I would just buy outright.....Walk up to Frank and just hand him a check and tell him Thank You !!!
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I dunno guys...some advice I'm sure FrankW would give anyone...make your offer with decent earnest money so the seller knows you're a serious buyer, make sure the contract covers all the who-what-where-whens, have a survey/sea trial done, be there you might learn something.;)
 
dwna1a said:
If I can Win the lottery.... or find me a rich lady looking for a older guy. That boat is mine!

this would be the one boat I wouldn’t even ask for a survey
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Well this might very well be the best maintained and cared for boat available now, even if you pay cash, your insurance company will most likely require a survey.
 
Woody said:
I dunno guys...some advice I'm sure FrankW would give anyone...make your offer with decent earnest money so the seller knows you're a serious buyer, make sure the contract covers all the who-what-where-whens, have a survey/sea trial done, be there you might learn something.;)
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very true Woody very true
 
SOLD!.........

We closed the sale of our 450DA last week to a local couple. We decided to sell her ourselves rather than to use a local broker, so I ran ads on Boat trader, Facebook (a waste for this type of boat in this price range) and on CSR. We had no problems getting the phone to ring, in fact, properly following up on leads turned into nearly a full time job. Going the FSBO route was trying but worth doing financially and because I got to meet a number of very nice folks, who for one reason or another couldn't pull the trigger.

The new owner is a fascinating family who have become good friends thru this process. He is an Italian who has become a US citizen who married a Southern girl and moved to Panama City Beach. He is a seasoned maritime captain in Venice, Italy. Until Covid essentially shut down their entire Country, The buyer runs 75 ft + tour boats (300+ passengers) in Venice during their tourist season. It was a real pleasure working with a buyer with his level of understanding boats and their systems.

The boat was surveyed buy a hull and a mechanical surveyor simultaneously. The hull surveyor found no moisture in the hull or deck and his only negative finding was a "bad GFI"......we later found that the test button was just stuck behind the cover plate. The mechanical surveyor took oil samples, transmission fluid samples and coolant samples, all of which the Cat labs found clean and "no problems with this sample; continue sampling at normal interval." After a 2 hour sea trial the surveyor found all temperature readings and engine performance to be normal and told the buyer "If you want a 45 ft Sea Ray, buy this one; it is mechanically perfect."

Thank all of you who participated in this thread. It is interesting that a lot of the prospects we talked to were following the discussions here. When I get caught up a bit, I'll post a thread on the For Sale By Owner process



Frank
 
fwebster said:
SOLD!.........

We closed the sale of our 450DA last week to a local couple. We decided to sell her ourselves rather than to use a local broker, so I ran ads on Boat trader, Facebook (a waste for this type of boat in this price range) and on CSR. We had no problems getting the phone to ring, in fact, properly following up on leads turned into nearly a full time job. Going the FSBO route was trying but worth doing financially and because I got to meet a number of very nice folks, who for one reason or another couldn't pull the trigger.

The new owner is a fascinating family who have become good friends thru this process. He is an Italian who has become a US citizen who married a Southern girl and moved to Panama City Beach. He is a seasoned maritime captain in Venice, Italy. Until Covid essentially shut down their entire Country, The buyer runs 75 ft + tour boats (300+ passengers) in Venice during their tourist season. It was a real pleasure working with a buyer with his level of understanding boats and their systems.

The boat was surveyed buy a hull and a mechanical surveyor simultaneously. The hull surveyor found no moisture in the hull or deck and his only negative finding was a "bad GFI"......we later found that the test button was just stuck behind the cover plate. The mechanical surveyor took oil samples, transmission fluid samples and coolant samples, all of which the Cat labs found clean and "no problems with this sample; continue sampling at normal interval." After a 2 hour sea trial the surveyor found all temperature readings and engine performance to be normal and told the buyer "If you want a 45 ft Sea Ray, buy this one; it is mechanically perfect."

Thank all of you who participated in this thread. It is interesting that a lot of the prospects we talked to were following the discussions here. When I get caught up a bit, I'll post a thread on the For Sale By Owner process



Frank
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Congrats on the sale Frank!! Best of luck with whatever life brings you next!!
 
Thanks, Todd.

Is going to be more of the same, after we take some time off. I never posted this but our marina is starting a major expansion building program. This is the 3rd post-hurricane building program we've dealt with and this one will be demolishing a 75,000 sq ft building, breaking up and milling a 6" thick concrete floor then grading and replacing that floor all within 30 ft of our slip. This means almost daily washings and monthly wax jobs to protect and maintain a sizable investment we have in fiberglass. We still have our house on the beach and will just we plan to enjoy the building program from 15 miles away on the west end of the beach or from 450 miles north in the hills if Tennessee.


Frank
 
Congratulations on the sale Frank
 
fwebster said:
SOLD!.........

We closed the sale of our 450DA last week to a local couple. We decided to sell her ourselves rather than to use a local broker, so I ran ads on Boat trader, Facebook (a waste for this type of boat in this price range) and on CSR. We had no problems getting the phone to ring, in fact, properly following up on leads turned into nearly a full time job. Going the FSBO route was trying but worth doing financially and because I got to meet a number of very nice folks, who for one reason or another couldn't pull the trigger.

The new owner is a fascinating family who have become good friends thru this process. He is an Italian who has become a US citizen who married a Southern girl and moved to Panama City Beach. He is a seasoned maritime captain in Venice, Italy. Until Covid essentially shut down their entire Country, The buyer runs 75 ft + tour boats (300+ passengers) in Venice during their tourist season. It was a real pleasure working with a buyer with his level of understanding boats and their systems.

The boat was surveyed buy a hull and a mechanical surveyor simultaneously. The hull surveyor found no moisture in the hull or deck and his only negative finding was a "bad GFI"......we later found that the test button was just stuck behind the cover plate. The mechanical surveyor took oil samples, transmission fluid samples and coolant samples, all of which the Cat labs found clean and "no problems with this sample; continue sampling at normal interval." After a 2 hour sea trial the surveyor found all temperature readings and engine performance to be normal and told the buyer "If you want a 45 ft Sea Ray, buy this one; it is mechanically perfect."

Thank all of you who participated in this thread. It is interesting that a lot of the prospects we talked to were following the discussions here. When I get caught up a bit, I'll post a thread on the For Sale By Owner process



Frank
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Congrat's Frank !!! I'm glad this chapter is behind you, if it was me, this would have been like a festering wound and now it's time to heal. On to the next chapter. The buyer sounds great too, someone that has the knowledge and skillset to take care of your baby going forward.
 
Very good for you on the sale Frank and sounds like a knowledgeable buyer is waiting to enjoy a well cared for vessel. Hope that this doesn't mean the end of your participation here as you've been a fantastic source of knowledge without the drama that can accompany opinions from time to time.
 
fwebster said:
Thanks, Todd.

Is going to be more of the same, after we take some time off. I never posted this but our marina is starting a major expansion building program. This is the 3rd post-hurricane building program we've dealt with and this one will be demolishing a 75,000 sq ft building, breaking up and milling a 6" thick concrete floor then grading and replacing that floor all within 30 ft of our slip. This means almost daily washings and monthly wax jobs to protect and maintain a sizable investment we have in fiberglass. We still have our house on the beach and will just we plan to enjoy the building program from 15 miles away on the west end of the beach or from 450 miles north in the hills if Tennessee.


Frank
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Great foresight & a solid plan. Enjoy!!

Todd
 
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