New To Boston Harbor Boating

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by TTA89, Oct 12, 2019.

  1. TTA89

    TTA89 New Member

    3
    Oct 2, 2019
    Boatless
    Boatless
    Hi All,

    My wife and I bought a condo in Charlestown a few months ago. We walked past the Constitution Marina and over the locks on our way to Nightshift Brewing and I haven't been able to stop thinking about a boat since!

    I grew up day fishing in California with my Dad and my wife and I have a pontoon boat on a lake in NH. I've been been out a few times in Boston Harbor with a friend on his sailboat but I'd consider Boston harbor and beyond all new to us. In short, we aren't new to boating but new to Atlantic ocean boating.

    1. I love to research so I've been reading about boats for a few weeks and it looks like a 5-10 year used Sundancer 310/320/340 is the ticket? I still have to narrow down the differences, options, and see them in person. It's just the two of us and I doubt we would have anyone else staying overnight on the boat but who knows?

    2. We are a 5 minute walk from Constitution Marina and about a 10 minute walk from Charlestown Marina. Seems pretty expensive for a slip but... location, location, location. I see us leaving on a Friday and sleeping over on the boat two nights somewhere and coming back on Sunday.

    3. The most important question! It looks like there a ton of places to go leaving out of Boston Harbor? How far can we reasonably go for a day trip and overnight? P-Town? Portsmouth? Nantucket? Harbor Islands? Where else?

    4. Do we need a dingy? Do you tow them or mount them to a swim platform or what? How else do you get in from a mooring somewhere?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Ididntdoit

    Ididntdoit Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 5, 2007
    New England & South Florida
    Boatless
    Boatless
    1 - yes your thinking good on size - favor inboards (v-drive) for low speed handeling and reduced maintenance - a friend is selling her '03 340 at marina bay in quincy - let me know if you want her contact info
    2.constitution is a nice, well run facility - but also consider a marina that can winter store your boat and has a full service dept - if you are at a marina without one, it can be a looong wait during a short season to get repair work done.
    3. As far as trips - yes on p-town, salem is nice, plymouth - once you get through the canal another world opens up - islands, newport, block etc
    4. dinghys on a boat of this size are a pain in the ass - any major mooring field (mv,nantucket, newport) run an efficent shuttle service or, just stay at transient marinas - look at dockwa to see whats possible
     
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  3. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    Constitution Marina is a great spot, we’ve stayed there many times. Parking can be a problem. As far as marina costs go in the Boston area they were competitive last time I looked. Marina costs for a boat your size will run about $4k for the summer season, water, 30 amp service and dock box rental.

    for trips you can go north as well. Salem and Gloucester are about an hour, north of cape Ann is Essex, ipswich and further up, Newburyport.

    Time was I would have told you to go see Russo, the local Sea Ray dealer. However, since they were acquired by Marine Max, let’s just say they aren’t the same organization they used to be. They seem to be focused on new boats and only new boats. Since the current line up is basically day boats that’s all they are trying to sell.

    H
     
  4. TTA89

    TTA89 New Member

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    Oct 2, 2019
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    Boatless
    The costs at Constitution are higher than that. 2020 rates are $203/ft plus 6/ft for 30amp. On a 33 LOA that would be $6,897 for the summer of 2020. Charlestown Marina is about the same costs. Sounds ridiculous but we have friends with 5th wheel trailers that keep them at Bayley's in Old Orchard Beach for more than that per season. The bonus is we have parking at our condo and can just walk down there in 5 minutes.

    Marinemax seems to be the same business model as Carmax, no thanks. I've still got tons of research to do, just curious where we can go for day and overnight weekend trips. :)
     
  5. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    Salem/Gloucester are easy day trips to the North. Scituate/Cohasset same to the South. Going from Boston Harbor to Provincetown or the Cape Cod Canal is 50-55 miles each way and can get some rougher seas if the wind is out of the East or Northeast. Nantucket from Boston Harbor is about 100 mile ride and Newport is 110 miles. Inside the harbor there are many places to go for dock and dine (Hingham Shipyard and Marina Bay). The hotspot to spend the night is Worlds End in Hingham where you can rent a mooring for the night or weekend. Yes slip in commercial marinas are stupid expensive, that's why I belong to a yacht club. Its about a third the cost.
     
  6. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    TTA, it sounds like you're in a perfect location to be a boat owner but let me throw in a small word of caution: BUY YOUR SECOND BOAT FIRST.

    By that I mean avoid the mistake many first time boat buyers make. They buy a boat they fall in love with, only to discover that it really doesn't suit their needs. So after a season or two they decide to sell it and buy the one they should have bought in the first place.

    Selling a boat you've only owned for a couple of years can be very expensive. You put money down when you bought it and you're probably going to lose that. Then you're going to have to come up with more cash to put down on your new boat.

    So save yourself a lot of time and money and do your homework before you buy a boat. You said you like to do research, well now is the time for that. Walk on a lot of docks, look inside a lot of boats. Don't buy a boat for the two of you because soon you'll find that boating is a lot more fun with friends along. Take your time, do your due diligence and buy your second boat first.
     
  7. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    Agree with above plus the sea conditions once you get outside Boston Harbor can range from flat calm to 6-8ft. This storm that just past made sea offshore Boston Harbor 12-14ft according to the sea bouys. As said above bigger is better.
     
  8. Steve OD

    Steve OD Member

    48
    Oct 26, 2017
    West Yarmouth, MA
    Sol Searchin'
    1996 330 Sundancer
    7.4 L V Drives
    I went through the same thinking a few years ago, bought a 330 dancer (my second Sea Ray) and as I alternate between my house on the Cape and the Boston area in the summer, I ultimately joined a yacht club as the overall expenses are much lower than a marina

    The trip from Boston to Hyannis is about 4 1/2 hours and you definitely want southwest winds for that trip! Scituate, Plymouth, Sandwich and Falmouth are good stopping points if your not in a hurry, even Provincetown is an easy trip form Boston in a bigger boat.

    Lots to do in Boston as previously stated, including fireworks on the Charles river on 4th of July, it's spectacular being so close you can smell the fireworks!
     
  9. TTA89

    TTA89 New Member

    3
    Oct 2, 2019
    Boatless
    Boatless
    I wish there was a yacht club in Charlestown, I'd be all over it. I'm willing to pay for convenience to be able to walk to the boat and not deal with a car. :)

    Looking forward to the Boston Boat show this winter!
     
  10. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    If I lived on the North side of Boston I'd join Winthrop Yacht Club. Great club but no winter storage space.
     

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