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Pre Purchase Mechanical (diesel) Inspection in winter

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Olysan, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. Olysan

    Olysan Member

    111
    Mar 17, 2018
    1994 400 Express Cruiser
    7.4 MPI
    I am considering purchasing a boat powered by twin 450 Cummins engines, model year 2000. The boat is up north and is put away in a heated building for winter storage. Is it possible to evaluate these engines without running them? I would be looking for major issues that would have to be fixed before closing on the boat.
     
  2. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    I suppose you can run them if you can get water to them. But, I can't see how you could possibly close until spring. Make contract contingent on sea trial and survey in spring. Good luck.
     
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  3. Irie308

    Irie308 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    For what its worth. We surveyed and closed on our boat (same motors) in December in the North East. We were able to get everything done with all systems except for verifying if the AC worked. So still doable unless the boat is tucked away in the back and can't be launched until spring. If that's the case I can't see how you could properly evaluate them without running them under load which would have to be done in water.
     
  4. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    What Irie said. To conduct load tests the boat has to be in the water moving. The good news is inside storage is the easiest to to de & re winterize. The AC and heat can’t be tested because the water will probably be too cold to allow it to work.
     
  5. Olysan

    Olysan Member

    111
    Mar 17, 2018
    1994 400 Express Cruiser
    7.4 MPI
    Thanks guys. The big problem is that it's tucked in the back of a building so there's no way to get it out to launch it. I decided to write the offer contingent on a mechanical survey after launch in the spring.
     
  6. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    Anacortes Washington
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 Charts Timezero radar Furuno
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    I looked at a boat once on a frozen lake. When talking to the agent he said there was on offer based on what you are doing. Agent refused to take any other offers based on the outcome of the of the one on the boat. Assume they will want your 10% deposit. If they do you may want to state "No other offers are to be placed on boat until yours is concluded"
     
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  7. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    I'll just interject something to modify this. If you (or the boss) really, really, loves this boat, or you are getting a Vito Coreleone grade deal, then go with this approach. If you think you might see another boat, closer to home, better deal, or whatever, then don't add this clause so you can gracefully exit should something better come along.
     

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