Raymarine radar cable question

[DowneastSeaRay]

The E120 is installed in the upper position and the C80 in the lower position (450 Sundancer). The radar was working on the E120 and not working after an overland haul. Now the backlighting is inop. The previous owner told me that he used the C80 for charts only. Once I add the Axiom, much of what is currently installed will likely be obsolete, I think.

 

[Skybolt]

The E120 is installed in the upper position and the C80 in the lower position (450 Sundancer). The radar was working on the E120 and not working after an overland haul. Now the backlighting is inop. The previous owner told me that he used the C80 for charts only. Once I add the Axiom, much of what is currently installed will likely be obsolete, I think. ...

So if the Radar is connected to the E120 then that is the one to replace first and get things going. The C80 could be replaced with an Axiom as well. Also I think BOE Marine our sponsor has mounting plates to help with the re-fitting of the new units. But As Dave showed you in his diagrams the older stuff can be still used and integrated into the new system(s).

 

[dtfeld]

This may be even easier than I initially thought. If you have an HD Digital Open array radar, you likely have something like this behind the existing MFD's, utilizing SeaTalkhs (Raymarine Ethernet) to network the radar scanner to the MFD's. IF this is the case, you can keep the existing Radar and drop in the Axiom/Axiom+ pretty easily. Raymarine transitioned from SeaTalkhs that used RJ-45 connections to Raynet (both are essentially ethernet). Raynet connectors are proprietary, but much more waterproof.

In this case, you can drop in 1 or 2 new Axiom/Axiom+ displays and replace the existing SeaTalkhs cable with a Raynet Adapter cable of the appropriate length.

 

[dtfeld]

If the above scenario is what you have, you likely could do this yourself.

First order of business is to physically mount the new MFD's. They make adapter plates, so the existing mounting holes line up.

You need to SeaTalkhs to Raynet adapters listed above.

You'll need the SeaTalk1 to SeaTalkng Converter

You'll Need the SeaTalk1 to NEMA 0183 Converter (Only if you have data going to your VFH or other NEMA0183 device)

And add the RS150 GPS with Pole mount

A few other various cables easily sourced from various dealers/amazon.

 

[DowneastSeaRay]

Dug around some more and found the SeaTalkHS switch as you described just forward of the ST60+ (in the photo above). So, I'm in better shape than I thought. What you've compiled is definitely helpful.

 

[DowneastSeaRay]

This may be even easier than I initially thought. If you have an HD Digital Open array radar, you likely have something like this behind the existing MFD's, utilizing SeaTalkhs (Raymarine Ethernet) to network the radar scanner to the MFD's. IF this is the case, you can keep the existing Radar and drop in the Axiom/Axiom+ pretty easily. Raymarine transitioned from SeaTalkhs that used RJ-45 connections to Raynet (both are essentially ethernet). Raynet connectors are proprietary, but much more waterproof.

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In this case, you can drop in 1 or 2 new Axiom/Axiom+ displays and replace the existing SeaTalkhs cable with a Raynet Adapter cable of the appropriate length.

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Just wanted to close the loop on this and say thanks. The installation went smoothly. My biggest challenge was creating the adapter plate to fill the hole left by the E120. The pre-made adapter plates available on-line do NOT work with the Axiom RVS models as the RVS adds a connector to the back of the MFD thus increasing the width of the hole required. I had one made at a local marine custom plastic fabricator and it came out looking good to me. He even beveled the edges were exposed creating a very OEM looking finished product. I used the same shop to make the Fusion RA770 adaptor plate as well. Again, the Fusion-to-single-DIN adapter plate available on-line doesn't work because of the larger hole required to fit the Clarion's waterproof cover. Also, I spent several hours removing 3 generations of defunct and abandoned wires and connectors back there. The amount of clutter removed was incredible and the simplification of wire chasing was well worth the effort, in my opinion.

I'll replace the c80 once the Axiom 2 is more readily available. It's my understanding that networking a Gen 2 Axiom Pro in with a Gen 1 will allow both to use the advanced features of the Gen 2. We'll see. For now, it's still functioning as a back-up chart. Also, I'm planning on fabricating a replacement cover with a waterproof storage compartment (like a glovebox) to fill the area of the obsolete RayChart controller and Loran.

So, thanks again for the help.

 

[dtfeld]

Looking great!!