The truth about wearing a mask -finally

[El Capitan]

This is from the New England Journal of Medicine, not a partisan weeny or government agency.

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We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.”

DOH!

Mike drop.


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

 

[Great Lakes]

Completely useless! Let the debate begin

 

[El Capitan]

Fauci: “...I also wear it as a symbol...”

 

[Henry Boyd]

This is from the New England Journal of Medicine, not a partisan weeny or government agency.

“

We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.”

DOH!

Mike drop.


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

Pity you didn’t read the whole thing. Masks do not prevent you from getting it. Masks prevent you FROM GIVING IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.

The following section cut from the article you linked explains the benefits of masks in preventing the spread from an asymptomatic contagious to the healthy.


“...There are two scenarios in which there may be possible benefits.

The first is during the care of a patient with unrecognized Covid-19. A mask alone in this setting will reduce risk only slightly, however, since it does not provide protection from droplets that may enter the eyes or from fomites on the patient or in the environment that providers may pick up on their hands and carry to their mucous membranes (particularly given the concern that mask wearers may have an increased tendency to touch their faces).

More compelling is the possibility that wearing a mask may reduce the likelihood of transmission from asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic health care workers with Covid-19 to other providers and patients. This concern increases as Covid-19 becomes more widespread in the community. We face a constant risk that a health care worker with early infection may bring the virus into our facilities and transmit it to others. Transmission from people with asymptomatic infection has been well documented, although it is unclear to what extent such transmission contributes to the overall spread of infection.1-3

More insidious may be the health care worker who comes to work with mild and ambiguous symptoms, such as fatigue or muscle aches, or a scratchy throat and mild nasal congestion, that they attribute to working long hours or stress or seasonal allergies, rather than recognizing that they may have early or mild Covid-19. In our hospitals, we have already seen a number of instances in which staff members either came to work well but developed symptoms of Covid-19 partway through their shifts or worked with mild and ambiguous symptoms that were subsequently diagnosed as Covid-19. These cases have led to large numbers of our patients and staff members being exposed to the virus and a handful of potentially linked infections in health care workers. Masking all providers might limit transmission from these sources by stopping asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic health care workers from spreading virus-laden oral and nasal droplets.”

Bolding was added by me for emphasis.

In short, wearing a mask in public near other people prevents the spread of Covid 19, and can be a part of the solution.

Not wearing a mask helps spread the infection and is part of the problem.

Thanks for posting such helpful information.

 

[blaster]

Fauci: “...I also wear it as a symbol...”

Yes, a symbol of Islam.

 

[Great Lakes]

Not wearing a mask helps spread the infection and is part of the problem.

Complete BS. Quit drinking the koolaid

 

[Henry Boyd]

Complete BS. Quit drinking the koolaid

The article is in one of the preeminent medical publications in the country. It’s the conclusion of the authors who have been dealing with this disease in person written for other medical professionals. So, not BS.

In more simple terms. When you were little your mommy told you to cover your mouth when you coughed or sneezed to prevent the spread of germs. Today we have this terrible disease that some people can spread because they don’t know they are sick. They don’t mean to make other people sick, but if they wear a mask, it will block many of those nasty virus water droplets. So people who don’t want to make other people sick wear masks. Simple enough?

It’s pretty simple, cover your mouth and you keep any disease to yourself. That’s prevention. Don’t cover mouth and if you are contagious you will infect others, and that’s the problem.

 

[Carpediem44DB]

The guidance proffered by the article seems to be to the medical provider community and makes sense because the hospitals is where the virus will likely be concentrated. What those of us that doubt the effectiveness of mask wearing by the general public have concerns about is people are wearing masks just because they are told too by the Nazis now running the blue states. They are not smart enough to consider the true benefit and wear them when actually appropriate hence the morons driving down the road with their windows rolled up by themselves wearing a frisking mask! I see complete idiots wearing surgical masks while kayaking solo in the marina for god's sake! I am wearing a mask this week as we were granted permission to have face to face instruction for the last 8 days of our semester at the college I teach at and it is a condition of my employment. We by necessity have to interact with 40 students non stop for 8 hours a day and some of the students drive in from harder hit communities than our county. We all feel that it is kind of ridiculous as non of the forty students even knows anyone that has the virus let alone anyone who has died from it. The town in which I live and work was actually the place that recorded the first actual community spread case in the US! Bottom line is the risk of contracting the virus and dying from it is just really too low to justify the ends that the community has gone to in an attempt to save anybody from getting it. I just hope that eventually the masses will tire of this ruse and just find something else to concern themselves with.
CD

 

[MonacoMike]

The biggest fallacy is that we can hide inside from C-19 or wear a mask and never have to deal with the scary virus. WRONG! The spread was always going to be the spread, we were originally told we were going to flatten the curve to preserve healthcare from being overwhelmed, we succeeded.

Now it is time to live life. The virus is never going away, get that? Never! It is a permanent part of life on this planet for humans. Either get busy living or dying, but we must live and cannot run around in masks for every virus that pops up. This has not lived up to the hype they told us it was.

So why do they want to push mask wear and make it mandatory in some states?

...cloth masks are largely symbolic. The science hasn’t changed, but the agenda has.

Implementing mandatory mask policies across a society of 300 million because it makes some people feel better is absurd on its face. But the policy makes a lot of sense if you understand its purpose and usefulness to shift the American mindset.

Mandatory masks are a critical predicate conditioning us to accept abuses of our liberty. Mandatory masking provides the foundation on which governments continue to justify emergency measures and rule by executive fiat, and it creates a national mood of consent that America will accept indefinite government expansion because we face a “new normal.”

We can post counter arguments on mask wear, their efficacy, proper technique, the risks of mask wear, all night and never reach agreement.

No one has the right to control the breathing of another free human under the constitution. I hear the Chinese are good at making folks do what they want them to there, might check them out, might be a place to retire to...

 

[Golfman25]

I think masks definitely help prevent the spread. At work, we have been wearing masks since day 1 (the day they shut everything "non-essential" down). We had a person at work who was asymptomatic for a few days. Nobody else became infected. I believe the mask wearing helped contain the infection.

HOWEVER, that was inside in a working environment. Wearing one outside, with everyone 6+ feet away is just silly. And it just kills the credibility of wearing masks in appropriate situations.

And then there is this:

 

[Henry Boyd]

The biggest fallacy is that we can hide inside from C-19 or wear a mask and never have to deal with the scary virus. WRONG! The spread was always going to be the spread, we were originally told we were going to flatten the curve to preserve healthcare from being overwhelmed, we succeeded.

Now it is time to live life. The virus is never going away, get that? Never! It is a permanent part of life on this planet for humans. Either get busy living or dying, but we must live and cannot run around in masks for every virus that pops up. This has not lived up to the hype they told us it was.

So why do they want to push mask wear and make it mandatory in some states?

...cloth masks are largely symbolic. The science hasn’t changed, but the agenda has.

Implementing mandatory mask policies across a society of 300 million because it makes some people feel better is absurd on its face. But the policy makes a lot of sense if you understand its purpose and usefulness to shift the American mindset.

Mandatory masks are a critical predicate conditioning us to accept abuses of our liberty. Mandatory masking provides the foundation on which governments continue to justify emergency measures and rule by executive fiat, and it creates a national mood of consent that America will accept indefinite government expansion because we face a “new normal.”

We can post counter arguments on mask wear, their efficacy, proper technique, the risks of mask wear, all night and never reach agreement.

No one has the right to control the breathing of another free human under the constitution. I hear the Chinese are good at making folks do what they want them to there, might check them out, might be a place to retire to...

You’re right. Science is wrong, doctors are wrong. You are smarter then they are. But then we have a secret coup de tat going on, so you can be excused.

Oh and please cite the part in the Constitution, or US law, that supports the idea we have an inalienable right to infect those around us with a fatal disease.

 

[Creekwood]

Its Darwinism. Just let it be and let it run its course.

 

[El Capitan]

I have not worn a mask since day one, except when I’m on an airplane or Im in a state where grocery stores require it.

Nor will I.

 

[Great Lakes]

From the WHO website..


https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

 

[Great Lakes]

You’re right. Science is wrong, doctors are wrong. You are smarter then they are. But then we have a secret coup de tat going on, so you can be excused.

Oh and please cite the part in the Constitution, or US law, that supports the idea we have an inalienable right to infect those around us with a fatal disease.

My rights do not end because you’re scared

 

[Blueone]

My rights do not end because you’re scared

Well said

 

[Henry Boyd]

My rights do not end because you’re scared

You don't get it, you don't have the right to cause other people to get sick and die. No more than you have the right to take their life by any other manner.

But how about stating some facts like quoting the part of the Constitution, or any law in the US, that gives you that right? I asked that before and still have to answer. Could it be it does not exist?

 

[Great Lakes]

You don't get it, you don't have the right to cause other people to get sick and die. No more than you have the right to take their life by any other manner.

But how about stating some facts like quoting the part of the Constitution, or any law in the US, that gives you that right? I asked that before and still have to answer. Could it be it does not exist?

They’re god given rights when you’re born an American citizen. Since you wanna take them away why don’t you point to where it says when another American citizen is scared, that citizen has the right to take away your rights. I’ll wait..

The difference is I don’t wanna take anything from you. If you’re afraid you’re gonna die from this then stay inside. That’s your right. My right is to live freely as an American. See how this works. You’re happy, I’m happy and we can move forward.

 

[alnav]

 

[Golfman25]

You don't get it, you don't have the right to cause other people to get sick and die. No more than you have the right to take their life by any other manner.

But how about stating some facts like quoting the part of the Constitution, or any law in the US, that gives you that right? I asked that before and still have to answer. Could it be it does not exist?

We allow McDonald’s to serve foods that will kill you. Tobacco companies to sell products the will kill you.