Which Bravo 3 Steering pin to buy?

Discussion in 'Gas Engines/Drives/Transmissions/Props' started by radscoot, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. radscoot

    radscoot Member

    69
    Nov 8, 2016
    Georgian Bay, Canada
    260 Sundancer, 2006,
    5.7 Merc/Bravo 111
  2. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge (Sold)
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    I see the link is to a SS pin. That is good. I got a SS pin from JRmarine.
     
  3. Scott06

    Scott06 Member

    54
    Oct 17, 2016
    nY
    200 Sport
    5.0 Mercruiser, Alpha One gen 2
    My buddy got his ss pin from Nu Wave marine, they sell online and on eBay , worked out well for him
     
  4. pyro

    pyro Active Member

    185
    Dec 4, 2018
    CT, Long Island Sound
    2008 Sundancer 290
    Twin 5.0L MPI Bravo III
    Kohler 5ecd
    I did my last boat with the one from Nuwave marine and lasted with no issues for the 8 years I had it after. They have a youtube video somewhere that attempts to show the difference in "slop" between theirs and some ebay competitors. That was good enough to convince me to go with theirs. I think JR marine is top notch, but their cost is pretty high and at that point you might as well go with Mercruiser's stainless pin (used in their seacore products).

    I just purchased 2 more Nuwave pins for my new boat I'm doing now. I have a brand new mercruiser steel pin from my past boat I never used and I see a noticeable difference between that and the Nuwave stainless pin in the height of the groove where the o-ring seal sits. I have to inspect this more closely and ensure they are the same part numbers. I'll grab a picture in the next day or two.
     
  5. DWABoat

    DWABoat Well-Known Member

    704
    Aug 13, 2019
    S Louisiana
    2001 280 Sundancer
    1989 220CC Cuddy Cabin
    Twin 4.3 w/Alpha Ones
    5.7 Mercruiser Alpha One
    You get what you pay for.

    There are so many types of stainless steel. Some are very strong by design. Some more rust resistant by design.

    Unless you go with Mercruiser’s OEM pins, look for the type of stainless the pin is made with. Your reputable marketers, like Nu Wave and JR Marine, should be fine. But the cheap general merchandiser would be suspect for fit and metal quality. That pin carries enormous loads and could wear prematurely if it is made with cheap steel.

    I just purchased two brand new Alpha transom assemblies and considered installing stainless pins before they were installed. That is when I started researching. After consulting with my mechanic friend and doing a lot of reading, we decided in my case, leaving the original pins is best for me. I keep my boat on a trailer 95% of its life. A thorough wash to the gimbal area followed with air blow out then 656 coating will work fine for me.

    Good luck.
     
  6. Thornton69

    Thornton69 Active Member

    598
    Sep 15, 2014
    Northern BC
    1981 245 SDC
    2020 Solar 420
    '97 5.7 Bravo 2
    '20 Merc 25 EFI Jet
    I grabbed the upper pin kit (w/ arm) from nuwavemarine on ebay last summer. Also got the OEM gimbal/bellows repair/reseal kit and OEM trim sender/limit kit.
    They weren't the cheapest but were quick and combined the shipping for me.
     
  7. Korkie

    Korkie Active Member

    857
    Feb 2, 2016
    Leonardtown, MD Potomac River / Chesapeake Bay
    340 Sundancer 2006, Garmin 7612, xHD Radome
    Merc 496 Mags
    Bravo III Drives
    I used the JRMarine pins. @ seasons going strong.
     
  8. radscoot

    radscoot Member

    69
    Nov 8, 2016
    Georgian Bay, Canada
    260 Sundancer, 2006,
    5.7 Merc/Bravo 111
    I'm most likely going to go with Nuwavemarine.
    I had them bookmarked already and your recommendations confirmed what I had read in their
    positive feed back on eBay.
    Just a note, I'm in Fresh water and boat is wet slipped from May until October.
    Clearly this is one of many major design flaws by Mercruiser on their I/O's.
    Its no wonder the recent generation of boats are going Outboard.
    If I were to purchase new thats what I would be looking at.



    Thank you all for the replies.
    Randy
     
  9. Mavado007

    Mavado007 New Member

    14
    Feb 25, 2020
    250 SLX bravo III 2008 350 mag dts
    Merc 350 mag mpi DTS Bravo III
    Dear All
    Is it correct that for a replacement Steering pin, bushings and Seal, they need to take the engine out ?
     
  10. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge (Sold)
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    No, engine does not need to come out with a few different methods of replacement.
     
  11. Korkie

    Korkie Active Member

    857
    Feb 2, 2016
    Leonardtown, MD Potomac River / Chesapeake Bay
    340 Sundancer 2006, Garmin 7612, xHD Radome
    Merc 496 Mags
    Bravo III Drives
    Engine out only to replace the entire transom assembly. I had the JR Marine kit done on both of my drives two seasons ago. PLan to do transoms if I have to re-power. Holding firm so far. Difficult part is getting it to seal. Don't recommend the Merc kit at all. Be sure to replace with stainless steering pins.
     
  12. Mavado007

    Mavado007 New Member

    14
    Feb 25, 2020
    250 SLX bravo III 2008 350 mag dts
    Merc 350 mag mpi DTS Bravo III
    Hi Quint4 - different methods ? - i know and read about the JR Marine kt - what are the other solutions ?
     
  13. skibum

    skibum Well-Known Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Perry Hall, MD
    2005 Sundancer 260
    496 Magnum HO
    There's a "Mercruiser" method that involves drilling 2 holes from the sides that's shown in the repair manual. The holes get filled with plastic plugs.
     
  14. Korkie

    Korkie Active Member

    857
    Feb 2, 2016
    Leonardtown, MD Potomac River / Chesapeake Bay
    340 Sundancer 2006, Garmin 7612, xHD Radome
    Merc 496 Mags
    Bravo III Drives
    When I did my drives I researched the Merc kits and didn't find anyone that had a positive experience with them. My marine mechanic had tried them several times before and ended up doing transom assemblies in the end. He did the JR kits (for his first time) and although they were quite the project, they worked. One drive sealed on first install, the other took him 3 times to get it water tight. If I had to do it again, I think I would just go with replacing the transom assemblies and be done.
     
  15. Mavado007

    Mavado007 New Member

    14
    Feb 25, 2020
    250 SLX bravo III 2008 350 mag dts
    Merc 350 mag mpi DTS Bravo III
    @
    So take the engine out ?
     
  16. Korkie

    Korkie Active Member

    857
    Feb 2, 2016
    Leonardtown, MD Potomac River / Chesapeake Bay
    340 Sundancer 2006, Garmin 7612, xHD Radome
    Merc 496 Mags
    Bravo III Drives
    If you can get through the season as you are, the best choice (IMO) would be to have the transom assembly done in the off season. You can do the JR kits, but doing the transom assembly is the 100% for sure fix and be done with no worries.
     
  17. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    AB Ventus 9VL
    Looking for next big ride
    2019 Mercury 15 OB
    My mechanic says he can pull and engine out and replace the transom assembly faster than using a repair kit. With less labor the cost is less.
     
  18. scoflaw

    scoflaw Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    cape cod mass, cape coral fl
    1999 Powerquest legend 260 sx
    502 mpi Bravo 1
    What about the 3k the new TA cost's ? The new TA is going to have the same crappy pin that started this thread.
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2020
  19. skibum

    skibum Well-Known Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Perry Hall, MD
    2005 Sundancer 260
    496 Magnum HO
    I checked my pin on Tuesday. It was replaced in June, 2016 using the JR marine method with a Nuwave marine SS shaft. She's still bone dry.
     

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