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  1. #5411
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Macomb
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    SeaRay Sundancer
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    2005 280 SeaRay Sundancer
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    Twin 4.3 MPI Alpha 1 GEN 2 Drives
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    59

    Re: Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    thanks for the Info I'm starting this fun project this weekend. 4000 sounds like what I should us, the owner before me re chalked the rub rails with clear... I'm debating if I should keep in clear or switch it back to white?

  2. #5412
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    Aug 2014
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    Macomb
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    SeaRay Sundancer
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    2005 280 SeaRay Sundancer
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    59

    Re: Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    I want to add Sirius radio to my boat. Just bought the clarion CeNet tuner. Is this hard to setup? Which side of the radar arch should I run the antenna cable? Im thinking port?


    Thanks,

    Jon

  3. #5413
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
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    Above Cape Ann
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    Sea Ray
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    02' 280 DA
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    496 w BIII
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    Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    When you poke the hole in the filter it drains back to the pan. You don't have to worry about catching any of it.
    My bad, I completely missed the point. Sometimes things are so obvious you just can't see it. Makes perfect sense.

    Henry


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    Ciao Bella - '02 280 DA - 496 MAG B III
    Air Bella - '07 Zodiac Fastroller -T 6' Alu & Plastic Oars


    ​MMSI 338130198


  4. #5414
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    FloraBama
    Boat
    Sea Ray
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    280 Sundancer 2006
    Engine(s)
    4.3 Alpha Gen II Twins
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    76

    Re: Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    Hi my 2006 280DA key pads have gone nuts. I have to decide whether to buy 2 new EIMs and 2 key pads at about 2500 since they all appear to interface. The better long term fix is to bypass both EIMs and direct wire the helm with regular 12v switches although there is a small area for about 12 switches on both sides. Has anyone tried thar or know of someone that makes a replacement panel without the dadgum 5 v key pads and unduly compex EIM system?
    Jim
    From LA
    (Lower Alabama)

  5. #5415
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Chicago
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    Searay
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    2002 280da
    Engine(s)
    Twin 5.0mpi
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    70

    Re: Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    Can't one just fix the eim? Electronics specialist shop maybe? Can't believe those cost so much. Mine were just replaced by the PO.

  6. #5416
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    FloraBama
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    Sea Ray
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    280 Sundancer 2006
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    4.3 Alpha Gen II Twins
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    Re: Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    no not really. the system works on 2 pads with 6-10 micro switches each , along with 2 modules (called aft and forward....even though one is port and one is starboard). They don't call them that since the "port" (aka "aft") does not control just the port switch.

    Each pad and each EIM are comingled as to whether they control the port or the starboard panel. they are all inter connected, and with software in each one there is no way to know if a new replacement would work. its a crappy system, unnecessarily complex. directly wiring each component is a better fix, but messy too. parts are cheap but labor high. In round no, SR charges about 400 for each replacement pad panel. the EIM are not the same, but average about 500-600 each. Yes there are 3 diff components inside that are accessible but SR only supports the whole unit. thus all 4 is the only fix that seems feasible unless one was willing to buy an try one at a time. they could burn up if mismatched to defective part. considering I cannot pull up anchor, run the bilge pump, or the head and so on, I'm in dry dock until it is fixed. mechanics says it is choice of high price parts and easy install (of a crappy system that my not last) or slow install, high labor but a long rocker term fix. it just a LOT of rocker switches n a small panel space. it may look crappy and work well. SR went for looks on the design, not function. it wont e supported forever.
    Jim
    From LA
    (Lower Alabama)

  7. #5417
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
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    Above Cape Ann
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    Sea Ray
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    02' 280 DA
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    Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    Bama,

    I kind of agree and disagree.

    I think the CSR membership has kicked the topic of future replacement of the EIM and switchpads a number of times in the past. I've even done some work laying out a rough spec and design for converting to direct switching through a fuse block. Done right with proper wire type and gauge, using the standard color coding, good switches etc. would both be expensive and very time consuming as a diy project. For example I added a new marine grade rocker switch to the helm as a master on off for all our electronics and the single switch was something like $30.

    Maybe we can get someone with an electronics background to help locate someone who can refurb/reman the EIM and switch pads. Any volunteers?

    The concept of networked switches is pretty good engineering. It certainly leads to much simpler installation and wiring. It also makes adding options very easy. While the former has little impact to users, the latter really is a plus. Having lived with a boat that had old school wiring where chasing down corroded connections was a constant PITA, anything the reduces the physical amount of wiring is a plus to me.

    For your immediate problem. I hate to say it but biting the bullet may be your best course. Unless you can find a real first class electrician who can replicate all of the functions and have the helm look good, you will have resale issues.

    Sorry couldn't have been more help.

    Henry


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    Ciao Bella - '02 280 DA - 496 MAG B III
    Air Bella - '07 Zodiac Fastroller -T 6' Alu & Plastic Oars


    ​MMSI 338130198


  8. #5418
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    FloraBama
    Boat
    Sea Ray
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    280 Sundancer 2006
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    4.3 Alpha Gen II Twins
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    Re: Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    Hi Henry thanks for the detailed info. Haven't been on CSR much lately and often depended on Jason 78 Tonka Boater and you! Hope weather is fair in NE. I have a great electrician on the job who wanted to mount 2 terminal blocks in the 2 EIM spaces and fabricate a harness to run the same circuits to the helm directly to 12 v. switches. He worked for MM for 12 years. The biggest prob would be to get the new panel made with the space for rocker switches. There is a company tech something that does that well in Fl. And matches finishes. But it is a redesign. Due to time constraints of the re wire, I went with buying SR replacement parts. I got 12 years out of the OE ones, and hope I get as much from these. But there was one more problem that was not mentioned in my original posting. Here it is, pretty wonky.

    If if you have a Gennie, as I do, you have a 5th component to the network. It is a little box under the helm that blinks green lights like a modem. It inter connects the helm pad operation to the generator start switch (and the required bilge blower) inside the cabin at the main panel. In other words since the blower is operated from both locations, this 5th comoment is required. It's the simplest and probably the cheapest component but SR DOES NOT STOCK IT. It's obsolete and unavailable anywhere. It could be here culprit, but there is no way to replace it if it fails. The part isn't even shown on my schematic, or on the diagrams for the model on line.

    My complaint is that I have paid a mechanic to find all of this out from MM and SR. Now I have to gamble on the fix to buy 4 out of 5 compments. Sooner or later all of us will have to re wire. Biting the bullet would,be to delay operation longer and rewire.

    I am trying to cut my losses, and going for a quick fix. But the interphase block ain't available anywhere according to SR. Sure hope it works when I get the 4 other parts at 2 grand come in.

    maybe someone can identify a supplier of the interphase block.

    Gennies are essential in our Gulf climate for AC!!!!
    Jim
    From LA
    (Lower Alabama)

  9. #5419
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    Sep 2016
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    Chicago
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    2002 280da
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    Twin 5.0mpi
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    Re: Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    So, do these eim go out often? Wondering how long mine will last as they were just replaced. Is this why everyone has the helm covers made?

  10. #5420
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    02' 280 DA
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    Official 280 Sundancer Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisvr6 View Post
    So, do these eim go out often? Wondering how long mine will last as they were just replaced. Is this why everyone has the helm covers made?
    The issue is less the EIMs longevity, but as Bama points out above, the availability of replacement parts. If you have new parts, barring a lightning strike, you should get many years.

    This seems to be a common problem across all products, e.g. We just had to replace a high end dishwasher because the led electronic control part died and replacements are no longer available. We've also got a similar issue with our stove (same vintage different maker) where the oven controls are. Acting erratic.

    Bama, when I laid out my plans I went with using toggle switches to save space. I found one that used a translucent plastic handle that was lit by an led.

    As for your gen fan issue I don't have a solution. But I'll tell you we don't have a gen, and thought of adding one, but could never figure out how the darn blowers were energized by the gen ignition .

    My guess is that the black box acts as a switchpad surrogate. The switches on the pad are both on off and provide some kind of ID signal. The EIM besides having breaker circuits contains a multiplexer (MUX) that reads the incoming data stream from the switchpad, ids the switch function, then triggers the right relay to switch the device. The black box may take the binary on/off state from the gen start up switch to create a data stream the MUX can interpret as blower on.

    I think longer term we (CSR 280 owners) should try and be proactive and find someone who can fix these things, or design a drop in re-wire re-switch kit. Like I said before, any volunteers?

    Henry

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    Ciao Bella - '02 280 DA - 496 MAG B III
    Air Bella - '07 Zodiac Fastroller -T 6' Alu & Plastic Oars


    ​MMSI 338130198


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