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Thread: 420 DA Thread

  1. #11
    I think Skip said it right.
    IT has it's quirks - but all in all - a good boat.

    Starting this weekend I will be doing my first oil / filter changes...so I will find out more about that fun!

    But, yes, give it gas and it jumps out, turbos kick in, gets up on plane and then rides like a jem.

    First time I was out in 2/3 footers I couldn't believe it. I was like wow - my old boat (360) I would be hearing pounding non stop - this was just going right through it all!! Front end stays down and it rides nice...

    I have the bow thrusters and I like them in tight spots - the boat is big and sometimes the wind grabs ya; it is nice.... I have the hard top as well - which I like...
    Oops - I think I hit something!

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    07 52 DB Truly Blessed III R6800 CRM MANs Thundering Towers of Teutonic Torque 2010 Nautica 12' RIB,
    Engine(s)
    MAN R6800 CRMs
    Posts
    1,060
    Hey Jared,
    Oil/filter change is not too hard with the reverso system. I went with Shell Rotella T 15-40. I took a sharpie and put the date on all the filters I changed just so I have a reminder. Overkill, I am sure, as I will change every season. You are still under warranty, so be sure whatever oil you use complies with your warranty. Valvoline Premium Blue is what Cummins recommends, I think.

    Are you doing trannies? The oil filter in the ZF 280 Series IVs is a real pain. You will need a 22MM socket and a replacement crush washer, available from ZF for about 3 bucks each. I used a jabsco 12V pump mounted on a flat tank to pump my trannies. The clips from the jabsco unit were not long enough to reach my Optima AGMs, so I bought a cheap deep cycle battery at Wal Mart and used that to power the Jabsco unit. It took about 15 minutes or so to pump 5 quarts of 30W out of each transmission.

    I did the 2 micron spin on diesel filters as well. I put a big heavy black plastic bag under the filters, as they tend to drip diesel. These are the "construction site clean up bags" you see at Home Depot/Lowes. worked great. I also kept some fuel wipes under the filters just in case.

    I used the K&N filter cleaning and oiling kit to clean the fiulter elements on the Walker Airseps and they look brand new.

    Shoot me an e-mail if you have any questions. I took some lessons learned notes after I winterized and am happy to share them.

    regards
    Skip

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    North Bellmore, NY
    Boat
    SeaRay
    Details
    44DA
    Engine(s)
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Posts
    1,564
    Skip,
    Im proud of ya buddy.....

    Rob
    44 Dancer, JUST 4 PLAY

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Northern Lake Michigan
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    2005 420DA
    Engine(s)
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3M
    Posts
    106
    Solvation,

    I was wondering where you might be. Last I saw you was Fish Creek after the storm.

    Nice choice on the 420 as most have already pointed out. If you recall yes we have the blue hull, yes bit more work but we love it. Other than some of the little things previously mentioned we have no major complaints.

    We did a lot of cooking on the boat last summer and found to the galley to be acceptable. Yes sink is a bit small but worked for us. I would have put the large burner of the stove nearer the power vent but hey that is just me.

    I did the oil change in the fall and with the change system it was really easy. Did the transmission mid summer and that went well too.

    We have had a bit of a power drop on the port engine; 100 rpm is all but does make a bit of a difference at idle speed. Figure it might be a Racor and we plan to take care of them in the spring.

    On our boat, a 2005, the dash panel lights go on with the running lights. Wish this was different as we sit in the cockpit sometimes listening to music and don’t want the running light on but want to see the stereo controls. Again, little things you think of as you sit there enjoying life.

    There were two times last summer when we crossed the big lake that we would not have in our previous boat, 36 foot express cruiser. The 420 just take the water so well with her profile, beam and weight.

    Agree with Skip on the synchronizer and auto-pilot, never thought I would want either of them but now can’t imagine being without. We don’t have the Sea Ray Nav, have all Raymarine and went with the E-120 (2).

    You said you saw the boat in Sturgeon Bay, was it at Harbor Club? I know there was a guy there trying to sell his 420 with blue hull and hardtop. We looked at it, nice boat.
    Salty Dog
    2005 420 DA
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3 450s

  5. #15
    Skip -
    Sounds good - will start looking at it all this summer.
    I had the tranny oil changed at about 50 hours mid summer. The manual said should do that then - then next I believe is around 200 hours... And, because I had the little "oops" with the boat - and it was up on blocks, i figured it was a good time to let the dealer do that... I know they said it was a pain to get to!

    I do have the oil change system - so I am sure that will be easy. My cummins guy said only advantage to doing it in the water is you can fire it up let the oil warm up a bit then it just poors right out... But, I figured this way, I can do this, let it drain, and while it does that - go wax another 20 feet :-).

    Fuel filters as I menitoned earlier - wait till I finish off the current tank of fuel...
    Oops - I think I hit something!

  6. #16
    Solvation -
    I think I know the boat you are talking about. Is it Pewter as well? If so, I actually have been on it! And, the better part is I can help you on the pricing and all. If it is the one I am thinking of - good boat - VERY low hours as well. And, the better part is I bet I can do some good deals on it for ya! If so - lets hook up via regular eMail...
    Oops - I think I hit something!

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Northern Lake Michigan
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    2005 420DA
    Engine(s)
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3M
    Posts
    106
    Hey jared, hope you had a good summer on the water.

    Oil change is pretty smooth. Two things, you may already know, fill the filters before you put them on the mains, they hold A LOT of oil. Also, when filling them fill from the outside holes so the oil is "filtered" instead of just filling from the center hole.

    Are you heading north on the lake this year? Maybe we will see ya on the water.
    Salty Dog
    2005 420 DA
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3 450s

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Port of Escanaba, MI
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    520 Sundancer 2006
    Engine(s)
    2 x 698 MAN's
    Posts
    135
    Cuttin' Edge:

    Sent you a pm.
    "Solvation" on Michigan's Great Lake, the Shore of Beautiful Little Bay de Noc

    SR2006 520 DA

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    North Bellmore, NY
    Boat
    SeaRay
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    44DA
    Engine(s)
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    Skip,
    have u done anything to the boat ?? Nothings going on here so figured we'd catch up... I finally got my dash lights fixed. 3 transformers later... I can finally see my switch's at nite.

    next time ur in the bilge. over by ur water pump look up into the arch... All those wires on my boat are unsecured and have no chaff protection. I reached up as high as i could and zip tied them... but im not nearly high enough....

    In the spring im going to take off that access panel in arch and try and do a better job.

    Rob
    44 Dancer, JUST 4 PLAY

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    07 52 DB Truly Blessed III R6800 CRM MANs Thundering Towers of Teutonic Torque 2010 Nautica 12' RIB,
    Engine(s)
    MAN R6800 CRMs
    Posts
    1,060
    Rob, good tip. I will check that out. I visit my girl weekly and have enough wiggle room in the shrink wrap to be able to get into the engine spaces. Thanks for the heads up!
    Skip

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