Haul Out

**Russ Calasant** · 10-23-2012, 03:30 PM

Yeah, I can't wait to see that beauty Joe. BTW what do yo think about end of Jan or beg of Feb for the annual winter Fest? We should get the ideas going.

**Studman** · 10-23-2012, 05:11 PM

Today was a sad one. we came out and she is on blocks and stands waiting for April
We had a GREAT 1st yr and can't wait for next!
Boy six months is a long time....

**Havana Shamrock** · 10-23-2012, 05:15 PM

Russ, excellent idea we should get it settled before the holiday season starts. Get it going!!!!

**Alex F** · 10-23-2012, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Havana Shamrock

.... looking forward to next season now that i know how to run her.....

Joe,

What's the conclusion? Did I miss a thread or post on it?

**Havana Shamrock** · 10-24-2012, 07:07 AM

Alex after Liberty landing I had her pulled and cleaned the bottom. The bottom was pretty clean so when I spoke to my mechanic he asked how I was running the boat? Apparently I thought I still owned a sundancer. He said you cant expect to run this boat at 23-25 mph and not burn 45-50 GPH. I should be cruising at 3200-3400 rp's making 18-20 mph burning 35-40 Gph . So I adjusted the way I run ot and run with zero tabs as Rusty Higgins suggested and now I'm right on the money 3200- 19 mph-35 Gph I'll just get there after everyone has arrived and tied up for a while

but all in all we love the boat now. But,,,,,, while talking to my buddy at the Tobay boat show a few weeks ago he works for MM. They took in a 05' blue hull 420 DB which I was admiring from my marina he would take our boat in trade. The wife was very interested so far,,,,, Hmmmmmmm you never know. Cummins!!!!!!

**saopm** · 10-24-2012, 07:46 AM

19MPH! That sounds painful. My dad has a 34 silverton and I don't think he ever went above 3200 rpm. I guess those few extra MPHs are expensive with gasser in a boat that big.

**rondds** · 10-24-2012, 08:02 AM

Joe
Just re-sent you the PM I sent you way back on Aug 11. It's gonna sound eerily similar to your post above! I still stand by every word I wrote then!

You have passed through the five stages described by Kubler-Ross and have arrived at acceptance. Congrats!

**Havana Shamrock** · 10-24-2012, 08:03 AM

My dock neighbor has an 07' 34c. Silverton and he does better than me with crusader motors he was buying the 36Db new in 07' but with the gph he saw he went with the silverton.

**Alex F** · 10-24-2012, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Havana Shamrock

Alex after Liberty landing I had her pulled and cleaned the bottom. The bottom was pretty clean so when I spoke to my mechanic he asked how I was running the boat? Apparently I thought I still owned a sundancer. He said you cant expect to run this boat at 23-25 mph and not burn 45-50 GPH. I should be cruising at 3200-3400 rp's making 18-20 mph burning 35-40 Gph . So I adjusted the way I run ot and run with zero tabs as Rusty Higgins suggested and now I'm right on the money 3200- 19 mph-35 Gph...

Joe,

Firstly let me understand your tabs position correctly. Zero tabs to means they're fully UP. Is this how you run her? Or do run her with tabs fully deployed (fully DOWN to bring the bow up)? Rusty knows thsese boats way better then me, but just based on my experience the slower you go the more tabd (deploying them down) is required to keep the boat leveled and not barry the stern "digging bigger hole" and have the bow way up.

Secondly, it sounds like your focus was/is on GPH. I would be focused more on MPG. This is a number that dictates the efficiency. I've had the same delema when I got my 420 and without SmartCraft it took manual effort and several test runs to find the sweet spot for optimal cruising speed. Using just GPH was a misleading number. An example is, at 2000rpms I'm burning 20GPH total and moving at about 19kts. It sounds great but when compering to faster running RPMs and speed my MPG improves. The basic logic is that when running faster the boat comes out of the water having less resistance. When calcualting the time you spent going from point A to point B my numbers look much better running faster at steady pace. Granted, I burn more fuel in terms of GPH, but b/c I gain a lot more speed I get there much faster and overall I use less fuel.

I was under the impression that your boat has SmartCraft that should show you instant MPG. This is the mode I always used on my 320DA and it's the one that IMO shows the true performance, not just GPH. Actually, using the SC is how I learned and proved my theory. Do couple of tests, switch SC to instant and experiment different speed/RPMs ratio and of course the tabs. Proper use of tabs can give you extra couple of knots, or cost you the same if your tabs are set wrong. So, the total speed swing could be up to about 4kts.

My point above is to just keep your options open and do more testing. I'll be happy to be there if you'd like.

Originally Posted by Havana Shamrock

......while talking to my buddy at the Tobay boat show a few weeks ago he works for MM. They took in a 05' blue hull 420 DB which I was admiring from my marina he would take our boat in trade. The wife was very interested so far,,,,, Hmmmmmmm you never know. Cummins!!!!!!

That's great! You just have to make up your mind, b/c one day you're getting place in FL another day you're trading for 420DB........

Do both and be done with it....

.

**johngus** · 10-24-2012, 07:01 PM

coming out this saturday,just in the nick of time it may be looking like.Looking at the weather and long island may be in for quite a week of weather next week.