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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Arizona
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    268 Sea Ray Sundancer 1988
    Engine(s)
    2X 4.3L 4bbl Mercs w/ Alphas
    Posts
    743

    More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Now I'm questioning Sea Rays quality and engineering..... 268's Beware! I noticed this last season that there was a slight divot in my bow about half way down that extends from one side of the Bow to the other. Everytime someone walked across this point, it would bow terribly. Well, it started showing stress cracks in the gelcoat, so now I'm worried about the glass... Just a weak spot or???? Well, as luck would have it, it would appear that the soft spot is directly over the cross beam in the cabin where the curtains attatch. Strange right? I would have thought that would be a strong point since there are wooden cross beams glassed in under the deck....CAN YOU GUESS WHAT SEA RAY DID?

    I pulled down the headliner and everything looked fine....I relaized the deck had a Balsa Wood core....ok so the only way to find out more would be to bust out the first layer of glass on the underside of the deck, and chop out the balsa...or go through the top and tear up gelcaot and non skid....I decided on going in from underneath the deck.

    So, I thought, might as well bust out the cross members first, as I will probably have to put up new wood and re-glass anyway. Upon busting out the cross members, I found Sea Rays Fatal flaw in the Bow, and what caused the soft spot. There was no coring or second layer of glass under the cross members....in fact the glass is thin...scary thin...I can push with one finger and barley any pressure and make the deck flex up and down....

    Attached are the pics of my reign of frustration on the bottom side of the deck....I don't have the pics of the low spots on the bow.

    I cut out a 1.5' section the whole way across the underside of the deck. My plan is to take a piece of Oak or Maple and coat it with resin, and use a jack to push it securly up into the deck structure. This should make it far stronger in this area and act as a more stable filler than the Balsa Core. Then reglass all exposed areas with some Woven glass for the second layer. I will keep you guys posted as I progress.

    If you guys see anythign strange or have better ideas...please feel free to chime in!


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    BlewByYou 1988 268 Sea Ray Sundancer. Twin 4.3L 4L's. Onan 3.0 Kw Genset. Trail Rite Tri-axel trailer. Dang near bone stock!

    Proud Member of: "HOLE IN THE WATER CLUB"

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Lake Norman NC
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    2000 270 Dancer wide body everything but a genny
    Engine(s)
    7.4 Mercruiser B/III
    Posts
    680

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Sorry to hear about this, If you use oak, use white oak instead of red. White is not porous red is.

    And Bruswick obtained both Sea Ray and Bayliner in 1986... Hmmm!
    2000 270 Sundancer- "Wine Down II" (Sadly for sale)
    1994 250 Express Cruiser- "Wine Down" sold
    1987 BW Outrage- "Outrageous Luck" sold
    1987 Cobia Monte Carlo 187-"Penguin Lust" traded

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Above Cape Ann
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    02' 280 DA
    Engine(s)
    496 w BIII
    Posts
    3,165

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    I understand your being upset, but it is a 24 year old boat. Call me crazy, but it seems to me that a problem that takes 24 years to surface is hardly an engineering flaw.

    I think using oak might be too stiff and create its own set of problems. Oak also has a tendency to warp at the slightest bit of moisture. Using marine plywood instead would provide the strength.

    Henry
    Ciao Bella - '02 280 DA - 496 MAG B III
    Air Bella - '07 Zodiac Fastroller -T 6' Alu & Plastic Oars


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  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Munising, Michigan (Lake Superior) Pictured Rocks
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    1985 270DA Sundancer,Raymarine Radar,Lowrance GPS/Sonar/Structure Scan,F350 Diesel w/tri axle traile
    Engine(s)
    twin Mercruiser 185R's (v6's) w/ SE106 drives, "High Five" stainless propellers
    Posts
    680

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Boyd View Post
    I understand your being upset, but it is a 24 year old boat. Call me crazy, but it seems to me that a problem that takes 24 years to surface is hardly an engineering flaw.

    Henry
    Definitely an engineering flaw and weak point right from the start. A clear line for the deck to be able to "fold" along.
    +1 on the marine grade plywood - more stable.
    1985 270DA - "Wave Dancer" - Twin 185R's (v6's) - Lake Superior, Pictured Rocks
    Previous:1988 22 Pachanga w/496 cid & Bravo I, Raced:1976 27 Magnum (2002 World Champs)

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Michigan
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    1997 250 Sundancer
    Engine(s)
    5.7 EFI/ BIII
    Posts
    1,090

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Man, I know it might not be right but if that's the worst of it - After nearly a quarter of a century I would say they still built a pretty nice boat.

    LK


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Arizona
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    268 Sea Ray Sundancer 1988
    Engine(s)
    2X 4.3L 4bbl Mercs w/ Alphas
    Posts
    743

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Bear in mind getlemen, shes a 24 yo boat that on a good day looks like she just floated in off the line. This boat hasn't had any abuse or neglect in that area...Shes always been under cover and shes a trailer queen...Its a clear flaw, you don't put an 1/8" of Glass over a high traffic area without ample support from underneath.
    BlewByYou 1988 268 Sea Ray Sundancer. Twin 4.3L 4L's. Onan 3.0 Kw Genset. Trail Rite Tri-axel trailer. Dang near bone stock!

    Proud Member of: "HOLE IN THE WATER CLUB"

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Lake Erie Ohio
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    1989 Sea Ray 340 DA
    Engine(s)
    twin 454 Mercs
    Posts
    3,351

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Geese, Stace good luck buddy. I agree on the marine lumber rather then a solid piece of wood. The engineered wood will not "move" like a solid piece. Good luck with the repair. Just think you will have a brand new boat that is engineered better then when it came off the line when you are finished!

    PS: I am also jealous you're still able to boat!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Williamsport, PA
    Boat
    Sea Ray & Glastron Carlson
    Details
    1990 270 Sundancer, 2003 Ford Excursion 4x4 Limited
    Engine(s)
    454 merCruiser w/Bravo 1
    Posts
    1,562

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    He's just gearing up for those pole dance girls on the bow! Just kidding......maybe?.....Mike.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Wooster, OH
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    215 Weekender 2006
    Engine(s)
    Merc 5.0 MPI 260 HP
    Posts
    457

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Stace,

    Do you think the damage may be the result of all those young ladies dancing on the bow during the bachelor party last month? Good thing they didn't fall through the deck!!! By the way, we're still waiting on those pictures!!
    Casey
    2006 Sea Ray
    215 WE 5.0L MPI Alpha One
    Lake Erie & Ohio Inland Lakes

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Boating on ? Living in Shippensburg, PA as of 7/12
    Boat
    Sea Ray
    Details
    restored 1976 SRV200
    Engine(s)
    188 Mercruiser I/O
    Posts
    3,201

    Re: More repairs....I'm about at my breaking point!

    Got to admire a guy who works resin and fiberglass overhead. Sounds like she will be in better shape than new. Go with the plywood as a more stable material. Keep the pictures coming so we can see your progress.
    Best of luck.

    Bill

    Proud charter member of the HOLE IN THE WATER CLUB since 2012
    Some people spend money on stupid things....I bought a boat.
    I am - therefore I boat

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