Are you ready for an EV pickup?

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  1. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    Boatless in WA
    No motor
    EV pickup trucks seems to be the direction all the auto makers are headed. They're likely looking a gubbernor Newsomski from Kalifornika and his rulings against gas and diesel vehicles and the car makers want to be in on that new market when it really gets going.

    I've looked at (not with the intent of buying, mind you) at the trucks that are offered at this early point and, quite frankly, I'm disappointed. Really? Is this the best you have to offer from some of them? I give credit to GM and Ford for making EV pickups that look like what we're used to seeing trucks look like, but some of these are just plain fugly.

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    What say you?
     
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  2. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    Like most EVs the range will be an issue. The ranges advertised are with light loads, no accessories running, no hills, etc. At least that is what the Audi sales people say, and that is coming from a company deeply committed to EVs. I wonder what the range will be for one connected to a trailer towing a boat while you listen to the sound system in air-conditioned comfort? If there was a charging station to hook up to while you boated, that would be a good thing.
     
  3. Steve S

    Steve S Well-Known Member

    Jun 5, 2007
    Northern IL.
    2000 400 Sedan Bridge with twin CAT 3116's

    2000 340 Sundancer - SOLD!
    210 Monaco 1987 - SOLD!
    Twin Caterpillar 3116's 350 HP straight drives
    Unplug your boat from the pedestal and plug in a long extension to your EV?
     
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  4. Shoyrtt

    Shoyrtt Alamitos to Avalon SILVER Sponsor

    Jul 16, 2020
    Redlands, CA
    1999 450 Express Bridge, 9’ Achilles dinghy w/15hp Suzuki EFI
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    I actually like the Rivian's performance. Yes the headlights look like a Dyson fan, but I have seen a few in person and I visited the El Segundo Rivian service center and it is a nice little truck, about the size of a Toyota Tacoma. I take my Super Duty into Baja on long trips so an EV doesn't work for me, but for around town and local fire roads/trails, the Rivian might not be a bad option. They haul ass in a drag race too.


    The El Segundo facility:
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  5. kevin27

    kevin27 Well-Known Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    Tarpon Springs,FL
    1989 3600 Convertible. 2017 Scout 175 sportfish.
    2002 Cummins 6BTA 330hp diesel straight shaft.
    Hell no! They can't haul shit more than 85 miles towing and good luck finding a charger at the ramp.

    Plus where does the electricity come from? A power plant... probably buring natural gas.....or some other fuel... so what is the difference other than an inconvenient way to travel. F that...
     
  6. kevin27

    kevin27 Well-Known Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    Tarpon Springs,FL
    1989 3600 Convertible. 2017 Scout 175 sportfish.
    2002 Cummins 6BTA 330hp diesel straight shaft.
    Watch the you tube video with a head to head towing test using a travel trailer in Colorado with the lightning. What a joke... it didn't even make it.... lol
     
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  7. firecadet613

    firecadet613 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2007
    Indiana
    2007 Four Winns V358
    Twin VP 5.7GXi V-Drive / ZF63s
    I was just going to reference that...
     
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  8. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I am so sick of this ev bullshit… green new deal and global warming crap… I drove by a huge windmill farm yesterday outside of fort Wayne ….. I guess it’s a coal day….. you have to be kidding me.

    so Biden just used our money $300M to put in charging stations across the country….. these idiot manufacturers have not agreed on a receptacle and amps…. How the hell do you install multiple charging stations

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  9. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    1998 370 Sundancer
    7.4 MPI
    Nah. Run your generator and plug the EV into the boat. :)
     
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  10. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River
    '91 250 Sundancer
    7.4 Bravo 1
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  11. El Capitan

    El Capitan Well-Known Member

    Jul 9, 2014
    Chicago IL./Vero Beach, Fl
    1970 SRV 180 w 2.5L Mercruiser.
    2000 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer
    120HP Mercruiser
    Natural gas….or coal. Shhhh!
     
  12. GnrlPatton

    GnrlPatton Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    625
    Jul 12, 2010
    Maple Valley, WA
    Current: 1998 370 Express Cruiser
    Sold:1988 230 Weekender
    Twin Cat 3116T
    With the EV Trucks, there would be plenty of bed space to haul along your generator to keep it charged. I guess it could work. ;):D
     
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  13. jmauld

    jmauld Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 9, 2020
    Carolina Beach
    2010 Sundancer 390
    2016 Sea Hunt Ultra 211
    Twin 8.1l of gas guzzling iron
    In order for the charger installs to be eligible for federal funding you have to use a specific plug.

    I think everyone except Tesla and Nissan use this plug. So the government is effectively forcing a standardization.
     
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  14. Mark.60

    Mark.60 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

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    Sep 6, 2020
    Westbrook Connecticut
    2007 44 sedan bridge
    Cummins qsc 500
    Next Cummins will start to make electric boat motors
     
  15. boatman37

    boatman37 Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2015
    pittsburgh
    2006 Crownline 250CR. 5.7 Merc BIII
    Previous: 1986 Sea Ray 250 Sundancer. 260 Merc Alpha 1 Gen 1
    5.7 Merc BIII
    I have seen 2 different videos. One was an electric F150 and the other a Rivian. One was towing 8000lbs and the other 7000lbs. Neither could make it 100 miles. In fact, the F150 went up against an F150 hybrid and the EV F150 gave up as the hybrid was already done with the round trip before the EV could even complete the first leg.
    In the Rivian test they tested against 1500 Silverado and cost per mile was almost identical as the charging stations were charging a premium. Cost for the Chevy was .27/mile and the Rivian was .24/mile. And the Silverado was running premium fuel. They said if they had ran regular fuel it may have been cheaper with the gasser than the EV
     
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  16. Jus Cruisin

    Jus Cruisin Well-Known Member

    955
    Oct 6, 2021
    Lake St Clair - MI (Belle Maer Harbor)
    2004 390 DA
    8.1's
    I don't tow anymore so that range isn't an issue. I already own the hybrid F150. I will certainly look at the Ford and GM offerings if I decide on swapping out this truck. I've seen a few Rivians on the road and they look more like a mid-sized pickup. I would have no problem with owning a Lightning because I don't put a lot of miles on daily, but I don't feel comfortable dumping money into a startup brand. Rivian is the only new company I'd maybe consider just because of the Ford investment.
    But, I really won't need another for a while. In fact, I was looking at Ziegler’s ESP Premium pricing yesterday as I have another year+ of factory warranty left and I will want to cover all the systems on the truck once I go past 3 years. I won't be close to the 36,000 mile limit before 3 years.
     
  17. kevin27

    kevin27 Well-Known Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    Tarpon Springs,FL
    1989 3600 Convertible. 2017 Scout 175 sportfish.
    2002 Cummins 6BTA 330hp diesel straight shaft.
    Why do you need a truck if you don't tow?
    Trucks are for towing., hauling, and doing work!
    I have a Ford Excursion diesel that a use for TOWING the boats. Gets good milage too. Guess what? It stays parked most of the time. Its not because I can't afford fuel. Quite the opposite. I don't daily drive it because it's huge and a pain in the ass and doesn't handle well or fun to drive to and from work. Tows great though!
    I drive a Focus ST most of the time or the 02 Ford ranger 4x4 when I need that. Mostly the Focus ST. That car is fun!
    That's just what we need more big trucks on the road with no purpose.
    Btw the new f150 crew cab is almost exactly the same size as my Excursion. Had a loaner when I was getting a new transmission in the ex. Why is the ex so evil but there are tons of f150/250 the same size all over?
     
  18. kevin27

    kevin27 Well-Known Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    Tarpon Springs,FL
    1989 3600 Convertible. 2017 Scout 175 sportfish.
    2002 Cummins 6BTA 330hp diesel straight shaft.
    Hey better do some research on the $80k Rivian. Ford pulled its investment I believe but don't take my word. Research it.
     
  19. Jus Cruisin

    Jus Cruisin Well-Known Member

    955
    Oct 6, 2021
    Lake St Clair - MI (Belle Maer Harbor)
    2004 390 DA
    8.1's
    Trucks are also for hauling stuff around in the bed. Trees, shrubs, bikes, appliances.....shall I go on? I've owned some suv's and absolutely hate them. I have zero need for 3rd row seating and a truck has way more flexibility carrying things.
    Rivian and Ford might have cut ties since the Lightning has come about. But, early on, Rivian was actually using the F150 platform to develop their lineup. Rivian powertrain with an F150 body on top.
     
  20. copb8tx

    copb8tx Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 26, 2008
    Highland Village, TX/Port Richey, FL
    SOLD 2005 420 DA w/T-8.1S Horizons
    2018 Sea Hunt 255se w/Yamaha 300hp
    100% agree with this. I do tow a car hauler occasionally but 98% of my driving doesn't involve towing. That said, the bed of my truck is used constantly for home improvements, motorcycles, camping, etc., etc. I've had a pickup as a daily driver since '94, all Fords since 98, and can't imagine every going back to something else.

    Now, being from Texas, and enjoying road trips, there's no electrified F150 in my future for some time. The Hybrid one is definitely being considered. I'm waiting to replace my wife's car with an SUV, and there's a chance it'll be electrified, but need at least 2 more years to see what develops.
     
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