Official Caterpillar3116/3126 Thread

Discussion in 'Diesel Engines/Drives/Transmissions/Props' started by carterchapman, Feb 12, 2021.

  1. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    2002 410DA
    Caterpillar 350HP 3126
    we drop about 100 rpms in gear as well, seems normal
     
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  2. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer
    2001
    12" Axiom and 9" Axiom+ MFD
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    I would agree I see about 100 RPM drop. My port really needs an adjustment as it drops below 600 in gear and I have to manual adjust up.

    Here's is the procedure that Dave from Boatdiesel.com suggested multiple time over the years.

    I'm not this Dave by the way...

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  3. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    2002 410DA
    Caterpillar 350HP 3126
    yup, works perfect. The key is to be fully warmed up, like go for a decent ride and adjust out on the water, run again, check idle. I find if I mess with it in the slip after the engine has had any chance to cool down it’s off the next time I run the boat.
     
  4. Carver370

    Carver370 Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2007
    New Buffalo Michigan
    2000 Sea Ray 400 Sundancer - Diesel
    T-3116 CAT - 350 HP
    It took me quite some time to get mine the way I want it. That little screw is the buffer screw and actually does make a big difference by adjusting it in super small increments.

    I finally have mine almost dead on together when in gear at idle. It drove me insane watching the digital tachs off from each other.

    A good tip that a few Cat guys have shown me, when you have the idle set the way you want it, manually rev up the engine a little a few time and let it settle down at idle, adjust as needed and then reconnect the linkage.
     
  5. Riptide III

    Riptide III 3D SILVER Sponsor

    Dec 8, 2007
    Dartmouth MA
    1997 Sea Ray 400DA
    Cat 3116 TA
    1994 Sea Ray Laguna CC 250 Tohatsu
    :
    My port also drops below 600. It never use to. Not fun around the docks. If I bump it up with the control I have to remember to move the lever back down or the the rpms will be high when I shift into fwd. my stbd only drops down to about 690.
     
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  6. scott1956

    scott1956 Member

    61
    Oct 16, 2016
    Lanoka Harbor NJ
    2000 410 Sundancer
    1999 Bayliner Trophy 1802
    Caterpillar 3126
    Good to hear Thanks!
     
  7. Ted Russell

    Ted Russell Member

    67
    Sep 13, 2020
    Penetanguishene ON Canada
    1998 400 DA
    Twin 350 hp 3116 Cats
    Hey everyone, I am wanting to do my impellers this year, and started looking at replacing my port side engine in my 400 DA (easy side LOL). The fuel cooler line is really in a bad spot, it has an elbow that allows me to rotate it side to side, but I still can't seem to get the required clearance needed. I read that some owners have put on a different elbow to facilitate the impeller removal, has anyone here done this and have a pic?
     
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  8. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer
    2001
    12" Axiom and 9" Axiom+ MFD
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    Sometimes its easier (especially the first time or two) to remove the entire water pump off the engine and replace the impeller on the bench. Bonus on a new to you engine is you can get a look at the condition of the pump and insure the seals and wear plates are in good condition.

    Short of that, I think sometimes, various fuel, and or oil lines might need to me moved/loosened, but usually once you know how it goes, it can be done on engine.
     
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  9. Sgrochow

    Sgrochow Active Member

    141
    Oct 29, 2016
    Buffalo NY
    1998 40 DA
    3116 Cats
    I have same boat, same engines. The fuel line in front of the impeller is part of the return system so no worries to disconnect it (3/4 inch wrench if I recall) while working on the impeller. I put an absorbent pad underneath it, remove it from the cooler and then place it up high, it's flexible line and that clears the way.

    Same on the starboard side, except I remove the exhaust tube 1st.

    Also, if your impeller housing cover plate is scored, do yourself a favor and replace it straight away. I learned the hard way this year.

    Also, don't forget to replace the o ring.
     
  10. Ted Russell

    Ted Russell Member

    67
    Sep 13, 2020
    Penetanguishene ON Canada
    1998 400 DA
    Twin 350 hp 3116 Cats
    Thanks so much everyone, I didn't realize that fuel line was just a return. Nervous about opening things up with the mechanical injection. I will remove it and the oil sensor and then it should be easy peasy. I have the backing plates coming in and I will replace both and new o rings.
     
  11. ttmott

    ttmott PhD in OCD TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    You can slide the fuel cooler back (towards rear of engine) about 1/4 inch and flip that fitting and hose around to the other side of the oil pressure sender. Then it is out of the way for good.
     
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  12. Maybe A Dancer

    Maybe A Dancer Became a Dancer 12/23/21 PLATINUM Sponsor

    815
    Aug 20, 2021
    Florida West Coast
    Started out as MAYBE A DANCER
    Became a Dancer - 12/23/21
    450 DA Sundancer running CAT 3126
    Easy Peasy on the port side.........

    BEST !

    RWS
     
  13. mrsrobinson

    mrsrobinson Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 9, 2006
    Virginia, USA
    2001 Sea Ray 380DA
    3126 purring CATs
    Nothing is easy peasy on a boat except drinking a beer at the dock :)
     
  14. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    2002 410DA
    Caterpillar 350HP 3126
    did you ever get another diagnosis on your issue? Curious how you made out
     
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  15. Riptide III

    Riptide III 3D SILVER Sponsor

    Dec 8, 2007
    Dartmouth MA
    1997 Sea Ray 400DA
    Cat 3116 TA
    1994 Sea Ray Laguna CC 250 Tohatsu
    :
    I’m looking to install egt probes. Will someone please tell me what the type and size thread is?
     
  16. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    2002 410DA
    Caterpillar 350HP 3126
    here is everything I bought from ISSpro to get EGT and boost in a combo gauge. I did not require any other parts on the egt size, the kit was complete. Hope this helps
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  17. Chris L

    Chris L Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    38
    Aug 5, 2022
    PA/NJ
    1999 450DA
    Cat 3116TA
    My apologies for the delay, work has been kicking my ass lately... Foley CAT got to it last week. He pulled all the injectors and inspected the cups and found some rust in all six cups, two of them has quite a bit of rust on them. He reamed all the cups to clean them up. He then ran the numbers on testing and rebuilding all the injectors and the cost, given the man hours needed at CAT's hourly rate (Big $$$$), was comparable to just replacing all six injectors.. Decision was made to replace all the injectors. Thankfully, he thought ahead given the supply issues CAT has been having and ordered them when he first looked at the engine three+ ago so they were available immediately.

    She now purrs like a kitten.
     
  18. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    2002 410DA
    Caterpillar 350HP 3126
    awesome!! You made the same decision we did, I couldn’t bear tearing down the overhead and putting the old injectors back in, good or not.

    did you get the remans or new injectors?
     
  19. Chris L

    Chris L Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    38
    Aug 5, 2022
    PA/NJ
    1999 450DA
    Cat 3116TA
    went with new injectors. Given CAT's hourly rate, which includes travel to/from the boat, decided to get new so they would be covered under warranty...
     
  20. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    2002 410DA
    Caterpillar 350HP 3126
    makes sense to me! Glad she’s back to normal
     

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