Starlink

ocgrant said:
Ok so how many devices can you use it on? I have 4 TVs, (only a couple will be used at the same time) they are all set with fire sticks. I don’t have to do anything with my Peplink or Cisco AP?
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The PL will need to be configured to connect to the VPN.
There usually is no device limit.
 
Irie308 said:
So if my tv and iphone are connected to starlink and I'm getting a 192.168.x.x ip on both. When I initiated the vpn on my iPhone will my iPhone still see my TV over Wi-Fi to allow me to stream to it?
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This is a very big conversation. VPN's can be the gateway for all inet traffic, they can join two networks together and they can be both. A vpn service needs to be the gateway for all of the wan (external) traffic. Usually you need to upgrade your router or have one that supports VPN's. The VPN device needs to become your gateway device. That way all of the iNet traffic will be routed through the VPN. The local network shouldn't be affected.

To use your phone as the vpn gateway device your router needs to support static routing. A much bigger conversation.
 
SKybolt said:
The PL will need to be configured to connect to the VPN.
There usually is no device limit.
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Ok, now how the heck do I do that? Going to need some screen shots here....
 
ocgrant said:
Ok, now how the heck do I do that? Going to need some screen shots here....
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Yeah this gets complicated quickly. Especially since I do not use the PL for a VPN and use my router and OpenVPN. That's way to complicated for someone that has never done this before.

Let me take a look at the PL and see what is entailed in doing this from your perspective.
 
SKybolt said:
This is a very big conversation. VPN's can be the gateway for all inet traffic, they can join two networks together and they can be both. A vpn service needs to be the gateway for all of the wan (external) traffic. Usually you need to upgrade your router or have one that supports VPN's. The VPN device needs to become your gateway device. That way all of the iNet traffic will be routed through the VPN. The local network shouldn't be affected.

To use your phone as the vpn gateway device your router needs to support static routing. A much bigger conversation.
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Yes, that's what I was getting at. Most likely @ocgrant would need to have the vpn on his main router to allow all devices he would be streaming to the benefit of the vpn. Its not a matter of signing up on your phone or tablet then watch on your tv.
 
Irie308 said:
Yes, that's what I was getting at. Most likely @ocgrant would need to have the vpn on his main router to allow all devices he would be streaming to the benefit of the vpn. Its not a matter of signing up on your phone or tablet then watch on your tv.
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I've been looking at setting up a VPN. I'd like to use it both on the boat and also from home/office and while traveling.
Looks like there are two main options:
- Buy a license from PepWave for their PepVPN product. I don't believe this would be useable for anything other than the boat router. Didn't spend much time on this option: seems to be expensive and won't support overseas streaming.
- Purchase a general VPN like Express or Nord. Should be usable on all my devices. To enable on the PL, looks like an "OpenVPN" license needs to be purchased ($20) from PepWave. Configure the PW on the Network page - install files from the VPN provider will need to be downloaded and installed. Here's the Nord instructions. I'm pursuing this option but probably won't get around to it until summer so would be interested in hearing about the experience of others..
 
@ocgrant and others interested ...

So as far as the Peplink goes, it doesn't support subscribed VPN services like NordVPN or ExpressVPN. It does support OpenVPN which is not a subscribed service and does not provide internet access other then what you already have.

There are a couple of types of VPN's. There's VPN's that hide your iNet traffic and keeps prying eyes out. That type would be in your house and your home router would connect to that service and you would pay for that on top of your iNet provider. It's really only for outgoing activity.

Then there is site to site VPN's and client to site vpn's both of which allow for network access of the connecting site. These types can also allow for (setting) your iNet traffic to route through that remote gateway. Meaning where ever you are in the world if you connect to your home via a VPN connection, all of your traffic will go through your home router, or look like it does. That is an option with most VPN's.

I use OpenVPN exclusively and run an OpenVPN "Server" on my home network. Some routers can act as an OpenVPN server and take the place of an actual server.

This allows the boat, My wife and myself to connect to the house and have access to what we need. MY wife travels for her bus. and needs to access her server remotely. I also have the boat connecting to the house and I can access anything at the boat or house. I also run OpenVPN client on my phone so I can access the boat remotely.

The issue with OpenVPN is you only get two free connection licenses. That means only connections can be connected at any given time. You can have as many users as you like. But only two can be connected at any given time.
 
ocgrant said:
Ok found this but you programmers have to tell me this will work or not

https://support.nordvpn.com/Connect...847.784416098.1674846923-218348160.1674846923
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I’ll suggest using hardware that supports WireGuard and you’ll never use another VPN. It’s compact, secure, kernel-native now in Linux, available on iOS, windows, etc. If your router is Linux-based, it’s likely able to run WireGuard. Most large VPN services now also support it. Easy to configure and just works.

WireGuard.com
 
ocgrant said:
Ok found this but you programmers have to tell me this will work or not

https://support.nordvpn.com/Connect...847.784416098.1674846923-218348160.1674846923
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Unless the router supports VPN services like NordVP or ExpressVPN then it won't work. If you replace the internal wifi Linksys one with one that does then that will work. I don't know of any off the top, but they do exist. I'll do some looking for you next week and see what comes up. There are a few that do support that.

EDIT: Grant take a look at this, I may have been wrong about using the Peplink for this. https://support.nordvpn.com/Connect...8630.48846300.1674865784-866466043.1674865784
 
So I need to buy and open vpn license from Peplink?
 
ocgrant said:
So I need to buy and open vpn license from Peplink?
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Read through that link, I don't think so. It has nothing to do with OpenVPN. It's setting up NordVPN to work with Peplink.
 
SKybolt said:
Read through that link, I don't think so. It has nothing to do with OpenVPN. It's setting up NordVPN to work with Peplink.
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Ok sounds like I need to get a Nord VPN account set up. I will get back to this after I get Dishy installed in the flat mount and running on 12v then I will work on the VPN project but it sounds like this will work and solve my issues of Streaming in the Bahamas.

Edit: Will need a license it looks like.
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ocgrant said:
So I need to buy and open vpn license from Peplink?
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How does a VPN open up the access to Starlink in the Bahamas?
Doesn't the SL system still need ID credentials to access regardless of the boat's network being virtual or not?
Or am I missing it altogether and you are setting up a more secure connection with the Batelco network.
 
ttmott said:
How does a VPN open up the access to Starlink in the Bahamas?
Doesn't the SL system still need ID credentials to access regardless of the boat's network being virtual or not?
Or am I missing it altogether and you are setting up a more secure connection with the Batelco network.
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It has nothing to do with Starlink. The Starlink iNet connection is just the avenue for you to connect to the VPN service. Where that VPN service is located is what country code will be reported to the other streaming services. Nord and Express are US based VPN services.
 
ocgrant said:
Ok sounds like I need to get a Nord VPN account set up. ...

Edit: Will need a license it looks like. ...
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Sorry I didn't read through the whole article. Only saw the WAN configuration and new it would work for you.
 
ttmott said:
How does a VPN open up the access to Starlink in the Bahamas?
Doesn't the SL system still need ID credentials to access regardless of the boat's network being virtual or not?
Or am I missing it altogether and you are setting up a more secure connection with the Batelco network.
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It is only needed Tom for the streaming services to not be blocked due to Geo location. It will make all the devices (after starlink) think we are in USA when we are really in the Bahamas. Prime, Net Flix, You Tube etc all block a lot of their service overthere I noticed. This simple addition will solve that.
 
4 coats of primer, Bondo and a lot of sanding… One more wet sanding tomorrow and then time for the white tomorrow. I think I can install next weekend if the white lays down nicely. Let it cure all week, I get back from Shreveport Friday so Saturday might be a busy day, 12v conversion and mount this beast.

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