Will other Big City's end up like Detroit?

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This is a relevant article, and very true......





The current mayor, Dave Bing (former Detroit Piston) gave a recent speech on local TV, and told how bad things were/are in Detroit.




(not mentioning any names---like past mayors Coleman Young, Kwame Kilpatrick---and others) and what is needed to bring around Detroit---




if it can be done---he said....he was going to give it all he could. it is scary!









This is a powerful message about the failure of the Great Society.

How in the world do we get out of this mess? This is a perfect example of how good intentions without good foresight can produce an absolute nightmare. Never underestimate the downside of human nature. The author of the following piece is a U.S. journalist who writes for seventeen national and two international magazines.

THE TRAGEDY OF DETROIT: HOW IMMIGRATION AND MULTICULTURALISM DESTROYED IT
By Frosty Wooldridge

[FONT=Times
New
Roman]For 15 years, from the mid 1970s to 1990, I worked in Detroit , Michigan. I watched it descend into the abyss of crime, debauchery, gun play, drugs, school truancy, car-jacking, gangs and human depravity. I watched entire city blocks burned out. I watched graffiti explode on buildings, cars, trucks, buses and school yards. Trash was everywhere! Detroiters walked through it, tossed more into it and just ignored it.[/FONT]


Tens of thousands and then, hundreds of thousands today exist on federal welfare, free housing and food stamps! With Aid to
Dependent Children, minority women birthed eight to 10 and, in one case, one woman birthed 24 kids as reported by the Detroit Free Press-all on American taxpayer dollars. A new child meant a new car payment, new TV and whatever mom wanted. I saw Lyndon Baines Johnson's "Great Society" flourish in Detroit. If you give money for doing nothing, you will get more hands out to take money for doing nothing.

Mayor Coleman Young, perhaps the most corrupt mayor in America, outside of Richard Daley in Chicago, rode Detroit down to its knees. He set the benchmark for cronyism, incompetence and arrogance. As a black man, he said, "I am the MFIC." The IC meant 'in charge'. You can figure out the rest. Detroit became a majority black city with 67 percent
African-Americans.

As a United Van Lines truck driver for my summer job from teaching math and science, I loaded hundreds of American families into my van for a new life in another city or state. Detroit plummeted from 1.8 million citizens to 912,000 today. At the same time, legal and illegal immigrants converged on the city, so much so, that Muslims number over 300,000. Mexicans number 400,000 throughout Michigan, but most work in Detroit .

As the whites moved out, the Muslims moved in. As the crimes became more violent, the whites fled. Finally, unlawful Mexicans moved in at a torrid pace. Detroit suffers so much shoplifting that grocery stores no longer operate in many inner city locations.

You could cut the racial tension in the air with a knife! Detroit may be one our best (extreme) examples of multiculturalism: pure dislike and total separation from America !









Today, you hear Muslim calls to worship over the city like a new American Baghdad with hundreds of Islamic mosques in Michigan, paid for by Saudi Arabia oil money. High school flunk out rates reached 76 percent last June according to NBC's Brian Williams. Classrooms resemble more foreign countries than America. English? Few speak it! The city features a 50 percent illiteracy rate and growing. Unemployment hit 28.9 percent in 2009 as the auto industry vacated the city.
In Time Magazine October 4, 2009, "The Tragedy of Detroit: How a great city fell and how it can rise again," I choked on the writer's description of what happened.

"If Detroit had been savaged by a hurricane and submerged by a ravenous flood, we'd know a lot more about it," said Daniel Okrent. "If drought and carelessness had spread brush fires across the city, we'd see it on the evening news every night. Earthquake, tornadoes, you name it - if natural disaster had devastated the city that was once the living proof of American prosperity, the rest of the country might take notice.


But Detroit, once our fourth largest city, now 11th and slipping rapidly, has had no such luck. Its disaster has long been a slow unwinding that seemed to remove it from the rest of the country. Even the death rattle that in the past year emanated from its signature industry brought more attention to the auto executives than to the people of the city, who had for so long been victimized by their dreadful decision-making."

As Coleman Young's corruption brought the city to its knees, no amount of federal dollars could save the incredible payoffs, kick backs and illegality permeating his administration. I witnessed the city's death from the seat of my 18-wheeler tractor trailer because I moved people out of every sector of decaying Detroit .

"By any quantifiable standard, the city is on life support. Detroit 's treasury is $300 million short of the funds needed to provide the barest municipal services," Okrent said. "The school system, which six years ago was compelled by the teachers' union to reject a philanthropist's offer of $200 million to build 15 small, independent charter high schools, is in receivership. The murder rate is soaring, and 7 out of 10 remain unsolved. Three years after Katrina devastated New Orleans, unemployment in that city hit a peak of 11%. In Detroit, the unemployment rate is 28.9% That's worth spelling out: twenty-eight point nine percent."

At the end of Okrent's report, and he will write a dozen more about Detroit , he said, "That's because the story of Detroit is not simply one of a great city's collapse. It's also about the erosion of the industries that helped build the country we know today. The ultimate fate of Detroit will reveal much about the character of America in the 21st century. If what was once the most prosperous manufacturing city in the nation has been brought to its knees, what does that say about our recent past? And if it can't find a way to get up, what does that say about our future?"


As you read in my book review of Chris Steiner's book, $20 Per Gallon, the auto industry won't come back (to Detroit). Immigration will keep pouring more and more uneducated third world immigrants from the Middle East into Detroit -thus creating a beachhead for Islamic hegemony in America . If the 50 percent illiteracy continues, we will see more homegrown terrorists spawned out of the Muslim ghettos of Detroit. Illiteracy plus Islam equals walking human bombs. You have already seen it in Madrid, Spain; London, England and Paris, France with train bombings, subway bombings and riots. As their numbers grow, so will their power to enact their barbaric Sharia Law that negates republican forms of government, first amendment rights and subjugates women to the lowest rungs on the human ladder. We will see more honor killings by upset husbands, fathers and brothers that demand subjugation by their daughters, sisters and wives. Muslims prefer to use beheadings of women to scare the hell out of any other members of their sect from straying.

Multiculturalism: what a perfect method to kill our language, culture, country and way of life.

I PRAY EVERYONE THAT READS THIS REALIZES THAT IF WE DON'T ALL STAND UP AND SCREAM AT WASHINGTON AND OUR CITY LEADERS THIS IS WHAT AWAITS AMERICA . IF YOU FOLLOW THE NEWS AT ALL YOU KNOW THIS HAS HAPPENED IN ENGLAND AND FRANCE AND SPAIN .. IF YOU THINK THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF HOOEY AND YOU FEEL NO DUTY TO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY, THEN I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO STAND AND FIGHT.

Frosty Wooldridge
 
^^^The usual blend of facts with things that are "not quite" facts.

I suppose the collapse of manufacturing in the U.S., driven by the quest for lower labor costs has nothing to do with the plight of Detroit.

A few articles (picked at random from a short google search)

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/40/2/13.3.full

From this article:

2/3 of Arab Americans speak fluent English.

The more interesting statistic is that 1/2 of arab americans are actually *Christian* and not muslim.

Another article:
http://www.arabdetroit.com/arabamericans.php

From this article: Although growing quickly (doubled from 1980 to 2000) the arab community in Michigan is not a recent thing. Many arabs worked in the US auto industry.

Another tidbit: More than 4 out of 10 Arab Americans have a bachelor’s degree or higher.

Ok. . .I am sure someone is going to throwout some other B.S. scare articles about muslim radicalization of America. Whatever. I am done now.
 
Another tidbit: More than 4 out of 10 Arab Americans have a bachelor’s degree or higher.

Yes they do and so did the ones that flew into the towers so education and radicals in the Muslim ranks don’t mean much other than make them smarter terrorist. Until the so called moderates come out and denounce what the radicals do and turn some of the domestic terrorist in then they are going to be lumped in to the same category.

I know that you liberals think that if we kiss their a$$es then they wont hate us any more but you are sadly mistaken they hate everyone that won't bow down to alla and they would kill you and your family in a heart beat just like they do to their own daughters that stray away from their religion.
 
^^^The usual blend of facts with things that are "not quite" facts.

I suppose the collapse of manufacturing in the U.S., driven by the quest for lower labor costs has nothing to do with the plight of Detroit.

A few articles (picked at random from a short google search)

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/40/2/13.3.full

From this article:

2/3 of Arab Americans speak fluent English.

The more interesting statistic is that 1/2 of arab americans are actually *Christian* and not muslim.

Another article:
http://www.arabdetroit.com/arabamericans.php

From this article: Although growing quickly (doubled from 1980 to 2000) the arab community in Michigan is not a recent thing. Many arabs worked in the US auto industry.

Another tidbit: More than 4 out of 10 Arab Americans have a bachelor’s degree or higher.

Ok. . .I am sure someone is going to throwout some other B.S. scare articles about muslim radicalization of America. Whatever. I am done now.

One can only hope....
 
Daddubo:

Which is it?

The city features a 50 percent illiteracy rate and growing. <<snip>> If the 50 percent illiteracy continues, we will see more homegrown terrorists spawned out of the Muslim ghettos of Detroit. Illiteracy plus Islam equals walking human bombs.

Another tidbit: More than 4 out of 10 Arab Americans have a bachelor’s degree or higher.

Yes they do and so did the ones that flew into the towers so education and radicals in the Muslim ranks don’t mean much other than make them smarter terrorist.


Which is it? Are you worried about illiterate Muslims becoming terrorists, or are you worried about educated Muslims becoming terrorists?

I guess the point is you think ALL Muslims are terrorists regardless of origin, education or ethnicity.

I know that you liberals think that if we kiss their a$$es then they wont hate us any more

Nice deflection from the original point of discussion into ignorant name calling.

Don't assume I am a liberal.
Don't assume I am sympathetic to Radical Muslims.

Maybe I just like mocking ignorant stories that substitute LARGE FONTS and colored text for rational argument.

:grin:

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And yes. . . I am aware that the original post relates to Muslims and my response focused on Arab Americans.


I am curious. . what do you make of NON-muslim Arabs? Do you think they are just undeclared terrorists?

What do you make of non-Arab muslims? Muslims of Arab descent are actually a small minority of muslims in the US
http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html

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Personally, I think Detroit's problems are far more related to Economics rather then immigration and multiculturism. I don't think I am alone in that viewpoint.
 
Daddubo:

Which is it?



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Which is it? Are you worried about illiterate Muslims becoming terrorists, or are you worried about educated Muslims becoming terrorists?

I guess the point is you think ALL Muslims are terrorists regardless of origin, education or ethnicity.



Nice deflection from the original point of discussion into ignorant name calling.

Don't assume I am a liberal.
Don't assume I am sympathetic to Radical Muslims.

Maybe I just like mocking ignorant stories that substitute LARGE FONTS and colored text for rational argument.

:grin:

- - - - - -

And yes. . . I am aware that the original post relates to Muslims and my response focused on Arab Americans.


I am curious. . what do you make of NON-muslim Arabs? Do you think they are just undeclared terrorists?

What do you make of non-Arab muslims? Muslims of Arab descent are actually a small minority of muslims in the US
http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html

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Personally, I think Detroit's problems are far more related to Economics rather then immigration and multiculturism. I don't think I am alone in that viewpoint.
:thumbsup: Nope, your not alone. And yes, I have been to Detroit many times and as recent as this last June.
 
quote=comsnark;420130]Daddubo:

Which is it?



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Which is it? Are you worried about illiterate Muslims becoming terrorists, or are you worried about educated Muslims becoming terrorists?

It doesn’t matter if they are educated or your run of the mill dumb ass terrorist they have no respect for life and go as far as killing their own daughters because of there religion.

I guess the point is you think ALL Muslims are terrorists regardless of origin, education or ethnicity.

You are correct the beginning of the Iraqi war if you remember a Army sergeant threw a grenade under his commanding officers bunk and killed him and he was a home grown muz and how about Ft. Hood, the underwear bomber and just about any 18 to 40 yro I will put in that category and like probably 99% of the people on this board don't trust any Muslim. Of course the left loves them and America is the problem with the world


Nice deflection from the original point of discussion into ignorant name calling. Not name calling just an observation

Don't assume I am a liberal. Read your own post you are always defending that side so I would think it is a good assumption.

Don't assume I am sympathetic to Radical Muslims. Then why are you defending them?

Maybe I just like mocking ignorant stories that substitute LARGE FONTS and colored text for rational argument.

How do you know it is an ignorant story? Have you lived there or know some one that does done business there?
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And yes. . . I am aware that the original post relates to Muslims and my response focused on Arab Americans.
I am curious. . what do you make of NON-Muslim Arabs? Do you think they are just undeclared terrorists?

Non Muslim Arabs have respect for their wives & daughters and more than likely have been abused by their Muslin counter parts.
If you really want to know what the Muslims are like read this woman’s story and what happened to Lebanon when they allowed them to come and live there. Lebanon was a Christian country at one time until the Muslims over ran them just like they are doing in Europe.

http://palousitics.blogspot.com/2010/07/dont-let-brigitte-gabriels-past-become.html
http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/

Arab Christians
http://www.makedonija.tv/ameccusa/amecc_news.html

What do you make of non-Arab muslims? Muslims of Arab descent are actually a small minority of muslims in the US
http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html

Nice try with a Pro Muz web site.
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Personally, I think Detroit's problems are far more related to Economics rather then immigration and multiculturism. I don't think I am alone in that viewpoint.[/quote]

Detroit has been a dump for quite a while when I hauled Massie Ferguson tractors in the mid 70’s it stunk and in the 80’s I it got worst and the auto industry was still strong
Of course Carter took care of that.
 
quote=comsnark;420130]Daddubo:

Which is it?



[/font][/color][/font][/color]
Which is it? Are you worried about illiterate Muslims becoming terrorists, or are you worried about educated Muslims becoming terrorists?

It doesn’t matter if they are educated or your run of the mill dumb ass terrorist they have no respect for life and go as far as killing their own daughters because of there religion.

I guess the point is you think ALL Muslims are terrorists regardless of origin, education or ethnicity.

You are correct the beginning of the Iraqi war if you remember a Army sergeant threw a grenade under his commanding officers bunk and killed him and he was a home grown muz and how about Ft. Hood, the underwear bomber and just about any 18 to 40 yro I will put in that category and like probably 99% of the people on this board don't trust any Muslim. Of course the left loves them and America is the problem with the world


Nice deflection from the original point of discussion into ignorant name calling. Not name calling just an observation

Don't assume I am a liberal. Read your own post you are always defending that side so I would think it is a good assumption.

Don't assume I am sympathetic to Radical Muslims. Then why are you defending them?

Maybe I just like mocking ignorant stories that substitute LARGE FONTS and colored text for rational argument.

How do you know it is an ignorant story? Have you lived there or know some one that does done business there?
- - - - - -
And yes. . . I am aware that the original post relates to Muslims and my response focused on Arab Americans.
I am curious. . what do you make of NON-Muslim Arabs? Do you think they are just undeclared terrorists?

Non Muslim Arabs have respect for their wives & daughters and more than likely have been abused by their Muslin counter parts.
If you really want to know what the Muslims are like read this woman’s story and what happened to Lebanon when they allowed them to come and live there. Lebanon was a Christian country at one time until the Muslims over ran them just like they are doing in Europe.

http://palousitics.blogspot.com/2010/07/dont-let-brigitte-gabriels-past-become.html
http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/

Arab Christians
http://www.makedonija.tv/ameccusa/amecc_news.html

What do you make of non-Arab muslims? Muslims of Arab descent are actually a small minority of muslims in the US
http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html

Nice try with a Pro Muz web site.


- - - - -

Personally, I think Detroit's problems are far more related to Economics rather then immigration and multiculturism. I don't think I am alone in that viewpoint.


Detroit has been a dump for quite a while when I hauled Massie Ferguson tractors in the mid 70’s it stunk and in the 80’s I it got worst and the auto industry was still strong
Of course Carter took care of that.
I second your entire response!! Until I see the mooslim population as a whole, standing with us and DENOUNCING their so called "radical" counterparts, I will continue to "group" them all in the same "hater" category:smt013 Every Lib I get into this discussion with always throws up McVeigh at me...I say FRY HIM!! Now what's left for the Libtardz to throw at me!! Any person or religion that is hell bent on the idea that another person or religion needs to suffer or die because they believe differently, I believe, should be isolated from the group they mean to do harm....and if it means their total annihilation..then so be it....period! Live and let live, or destroy those that won't, I don't see what's so hard to understand about this concept:huh: This mooslim problem has been going on for how long now?? Does any one really believe they want peace? And I cant wait for one of these libs to throw up the Christian movement...I wasn't there and I wouldn't condone that either! Its like all these people who want reparations...I dont know anyone today who was a slave...and they have the same opportunity to better their lives as I do and in some cases they have a better chance...And as long as we have the Sharptons and Jacksons and the ACLU out there preaching hate and "the White man is the devil and owes us something"...I will leave that for another thread, sorry.:smt024
 
I second your entire response!! Until I see the mooslim population as a whole, standing with us and DENOUNCING their so called "radical" counterparts, I will continue to "group" them all in the same "hater" category:smt013 Every Lib I get into this discussion with always throws up McVeigh at me...I say FRY HIM!! Now what's left for the Libtardz to throw at me!! Any person or religion that is hell bent on the idea that another person or religion needs to suffer or die because they believe differently, I believe, should be isolated from the group they mean to do harm....and if it means their total annihilation..then so be it....period! Live and let live, or destroy those that won't, I don't see what's so hard to understand about this concept:huh: This mooslim problem has been going on for how long now?? Does any one really believe they want peace? And I cant wait for one of these libs to throw up the Christian movement...I wasn't there and I wouldn't condone that either! Its like all these people who want reparations...I dont know anyone today who was a slave...and they have the same opportunity to better their lives as I do and in some cases they have a better chance...And as long as we have the Sharptons and Jacksons and the ACLU out there preaching hate and "the White man is the devil and owes us something"...I will leave that for another thread, sorry.:smt024

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Comsnark defend this:

Twenty-Year Plan: Islam Targets America
by Dr. Anis Shorrosh​

When we immigrated from Jerusalem, Jordan* in January, 1967, little did I imagine that Islam would become center-stage in world news. As my sincere interest in the growth of Islam in America intensified, I began to discuss, dialogue, and then debate Muslim leaders throughout the world from an Arab Christian's view of Islam. So far, I have had the privilege of participating in over 20 debates and discussions on every continent plus T.V. and radio. "Islam Revealed" was released in 1988 and is now in its 8th printing. The True Furqan is now in its third printing in the three years it has been published. It is the only book which challenges the Quran in substance, style, language and contents.
This is my analysis of the Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020! Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?
1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with hate crime bills state-wide and nation-wide. 2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities to promote Islam as the original African-American's religion while Christianity is for the whites! Strange enough, no one tells the African-Americans that it was the Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves, neither the fact that in Arabic the word for black and slave is the same, "Abed."
Full story:
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/rob_nothink.htm

A Washington, D.C., imam states explicitly on the website for his organization that he is part of a movement working toward replacement of the U.S. government with "the Islamic State of North America" by 2050.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=44480
 
I second your entire response!! Until I see the mooslim population as a whole, standing with us and DENOUNCING their so called "radical" counterparts, I will continue to "group" them all in the same "hater" category:smt013 Every Lib I get into this discussion with always throws up McVeigh at me...I say FRY HIM!! Now what's left for the Libtardz to throw at me!! Any person or religion that is hell bent on the idea that another person or religion needs to suffer or die because they believe differently, I believe, should be isolated from the group they mean to do harm....and if it means their total annihilation..then so be it....period! Live and let live, or destroy those that won't, I don't see what's so hard to understand about this concept:huh: This mooslim problem has been going on for how long now?? Does any one really believe they want peace? And I cant wait for one of these libs to throw up the Christian movement...I wasn't there and I wouldn't condone that either! Its like all these people who want reparations...I dont know anyone today who was a slave...and they have the same opportunity to better their lives as I do and in some cases they have a better chance...And as long as we have the Sharptons and Jacksons and the ACLU out there preaching hate and "the White man is the devil and owes us something"...I will leave that for another thread, sorry.:smt024
Whatever there throwing atcha gots to be pretty rank...he's been dead for 9yrs.
 
Whatever there throwing atcha gots to be pretty rank...he's been dead for 9yrs.
Woody, "I say fry him" was pretty much a "blanket statement":smt021 I have for all who wish to do harm to others! But in every argument about mooslim terrorists, libs always bring him into the debate.
 

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