Need help running wires on 1989 440 Aft Cabin

Anyone know how to run wires from the engine compartment or salon to the upper helm. I’m upgrading my helm instruments and can’t seem to find a good pathway for the wires/cables.

I cannot answer your question. I can, however, offer a suggestion... When you do figure it out, run some sort of conduit for future use, because you will find yourself there again in the future. I used some flexible tubing I found at a big box store, and pushed it through the opening. It stays there. When I came back to run more wires, I could just push them through the tube.

We have a 380 Aft cabin. In the engine room on each side are plastic conduits on the walls just below the floor as far aft as you can go near the outside. In the salon just below the exterior wall directly below where the radar arch is you can drill holes from the salon up. The area is behind the valance that runs above the side windows. I ran 5/8 heater hose from the engine room to the upper helm to a 40,000 BTU heater to heat the upper helm. Make sure you seal the area well or you will get water leaking into the salon from the helm

Thanks you, northern, for the tip. Hopefully my 440 AC will have the same conduit layout. I’ll check it out.

BTW, how do you like the Timezero/Furuno radar? I’m thinking of going that direction.

AllanS said:

Thanks you, northern, for the tip. Hopefully my 440 AC will have the same conduit layout. I’ll check it out.

BTW, how do you like the Timezero/Furuno radar? I’m thinking of going that direction.

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We had Nobiltec before and it worked fine; but got to the point of no support as it as 90ies version. The cost of a new different system was to be around 7K. If you have a laptop that you can dedicate to your navigation system it works well. Tak e the lap top into light conditions on your boat before you decide if you want to us it. You can take the laptop home and update it without cost. The teck support is very good. My wife has spent hours talking to the with the Nobiltex system and a few times the the Timezero. They never push you to end your support and stay with you until it works. We went with the Furuno as it is part of the Timezero family. To install the radar there is only one cable to run to your computer. Each item you add you pay for. In all I think we were into the system for 4K. We had a good laptop so not included in the 4K. If you are looking at them call them and go over with their teck support what you want and they will tell you what it will cost. They have both raster and vector charts. Tell them what you do and they will recommend what should work for you. I am not a computer or electronics person. If I can install it anyone can.

Regarding the conduit, I was at the boat today (35 degrees F), doing some wiring, and checked out the conduits in the engine room you describe. What I found were the gray, corrugated conduits on the side rear bulkhead (port and starboard) that had the red throttle or gear shift cables emerging from them, two cables in each conduit. Are those the conduits that you are referring to? Since the shift cables run to the helm, would it be possible to run a wire snake from there to the helm?
If those are not the conduits, I don’t know where the others are, and how the salon becomes involved.

Regarding the Furuno and Timezero, I was referring to using Furuno’s First Watch wireless radar that can be displayed on an iPad running Timezero IBoat app. No need for a laptop. Just power the radar with 12 V and you’re good to go.

AllanS said:

Regarding the conduit, I was at the boat today (35 degrees F), doing some wiring, and checked out the conduits in the engine room you describe. What I found were the gray, corrugated conduits on the side rear bulkhead (port and starboard) that had the red throttle or gear shift cables emerging from them, two cables in each conduit. Are those the conduits that you are referring to? Since the shift cables run to the helm, would it be possible to run a wire snake from there to the helm?
If those are not the conduits, I don’t know where the others are, and how the salon becomes involved.

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Those are the ones you should find the same on both sides. On set on our boat is used for shift and throttle the other should have wires in it for electrical stuff I ran my VHF radio, cell phone booster wires and a new ground in them. They come out at the radar arch. You should have a round access plate there. On our boat the previous owner cut a slit into grey tube to feed wires trough them at the arch area. The grey conduit goes forward. When I put in new radar I accessed the cable feed area from the top of the radar arch by removing the cover plate that covers the connection point between the radar arch and the boat. I drilled a new hole through it as the head of the new Furuno cable was to big to fit in the existing hole. If you use an electrical snake you can freed it through the grey conduit.

AllanS said:

Regarding the Furuno and Timezero, I was referring to using Furuno’s First Watch wireless radar that can be displayed on an iPad running Timezero IBoat app. No need for a laptop. Just power the radar with 12 V and you’re good to go.

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We have that feature; but never used it. We were told we could Ipad at lower helm and laptop at upper helm. Will probably set it up this summer if you go north and lower helm is closer to the food and coffee. I have used Ipad with other maps and they are much brighter than lap top