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I think VV5 is the bastard child as it does not have NMEA 2000 interface. You would have to display the generator data on another MFD with NMEA 2000.Thanks for that, ttmott. Very helpful! Do you if the same mods are required for the older vessel view 5 (pictured in the first post above)? Or does that one still have support for CAN-V?
I don't see a picture. Is this the VesselView 502? If so, it's part of a recent trend on the part of Mercury to source its displays (502, 702 and up) from Simrad/Lowrance. So, you may be actually getting a Simrad Evo unit, for example. The way I understand it, there is a Smartcraft side and a Chartplotter side; the user toggles between the two. So, if this is what you're getting, it might be possible to see the generator data on the Chartplotter side. Otherwise, as Ttmott said, any modern NMEA 2000 chartplotter or dedicated display such as Maretron, should be able to show the info once it's on NMEA 2000.Thanks for that, ttmott. Very helpful! Do you if the same mods are required for the older vessel view 5 (pictured in the first post above)? Or does that one still have support for CAN-V?
Tom, your grasp of this system and your selfless willingness to disseminate it so clearly and completely never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for taking the time and for being so willing to share your knowledge. It would be so easy for you to just think " I just explained that last month for the umteenth time, use the search feature" but instead you write out a complete explanation of the concept and specifics. I think each time you do, you do so in a way that is easier to understand. Just wanted you to know how much you are appreciated.Some screen shots of the Vessel View 7 and a Maretron DSM showing generator data after modification -View attachment 89972 View attachment 89973 View attachment 89974 View attachment 89975
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Some screen shots of the Vessel View 7 and a Maretron DSM showing generator data after modification -View attachment 89972 View attachment 89973 View attachment 89974 View attachment 89975
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I considered installing a VV Link at one point and did a little research but never pulled the trigger so don't know too much about your setup. But, I reviewed my file and found reference to a cable you don't mention, 84-8M0111670 described as a VesselView Link Power Harness. I found it online:Hello, I know this is an old thread however I am having some issues. My conversion is a vv1.5 to vv703. I am using cables 8M0075065 & 8M0075067. For some reason I am getting power to the vv703 however the vessel view link is not receiving power. I can plug it in with the kit cable and get power but the required 8M0075065 & 8M0075067 are not passing power to the unit. Am I missing something like a jumper?
Any help would be appreciated I have quite a few days into troubleshooting with no luck
Doesn't the Link get it's power from the NMEA 2000 network?Hello, I know this is an old thread however I am having some issues. My conversion is a vv1.5 to vv703. I am using cables 8M0075065 & 8M0075067. For some reason I am getting power to the vv703 however the vessel view link is not receiving power. I can plug it in with the kit cable and get power but the required 8M0075065 & 8M0075067 are not passing power to the unit. Am I missing something like a jumper?
Any help would be appreciated I have quite a few days into troubleshooting with no luck
That was my initial thought but I found this in a VV manual:Doesn't the Link get it's power from the NMEA 2000 network?
You might want to call the Mercury Consumer Support Team at 920-929-5040. I have heard they are very helpful these days, they used to have a bad rep.I am not sure the link documentation doesn't say. I had thought it was getting its power from the vv connector. I know the nema network is good as I see all the devices on it. However the link device will not show up unless I use the connector that came with the kit not the 8M0075065 & 8M0075067.
Now that's interesting.I am not sure the link documentation doesn't say. I had thought it was getting its power from the vv connector. I know the nema network is good as I see all the devices on it. However the link device will not show up unless I use the connector that came with the kit not the 8M0075065 & 8M0075067.
Now that's interesting.
So harness 84-8M0075065 plugs into the Starboard Smartcraft J-Box then that connects to harness 84-M0075067 then that '67 harness interfaces with both the Link and VV703. Do you still have the CAN P crossover cable connected between the port and starboard J-boxes? It is that crossover that provides power when one or the other or both ignition switches are turned on.
Does either get power?
FYI Pin A in the Smartcraft connector/J-box is 12VDC Positive. Pin B in the Smartcraft connector / J-box is 12VDC Negative. You can trace these to see if the pinout is getting power with any of the ignition switches on.
The cables (8M0075065 and 8M0075066) worked as Mercury said however I still had to patch in the power cable for the 703. It was easy to follow the OE cable (as a guide) and patch it into the 8M0075065 the same way Mercury did.
By adding this Medusa style cable it provides the needed data for the Smartcraft 5" Tach and 4/1 Gauges to work. The Temperature also is now displayed from the Ambient Air Temperature Sensor.
The 84M0076067 cable comes with both connectors. One for the vv7 and one for the vv link.
However ttmott got me thinking that the problem may be in the way the cable is getting power. In looking at it the vv7 and the vv link they are not getting power from the same pins on the plug.
The original vv1.5 had a plug that came off the harness at the end with 3 wires that plugged into the port below "Vessel View Multi Ignition" The new 84-8M0075065 does not have this plug.
I am thinking that with my setup this plug was providing both the battery + and the ignition +
to the original vessel view. Of course I could be wrong but I am going to check it out later.
If someone has a better idea please let me know.
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Weren't you getting power to the VV but not the Link?I have figured out the issue after I cut apart the 84M0076067. The cable is not compatible with VV702 or VV703. These cables came direct from https://sbmar.com they are supposedly experts and you would think they would know better but obviously they don't as I called called them and they told me these were the cables that were needed.
You can use one of these cables as I ended up doing but you will need to cut it open and fix the wiring. It would be far easier to use the 84M007606 and just patch in the power cable for the VV702 or VV703
In case anyone is interested here is the VV7 connector power + needs to be supplied on both the Yellow switch and Red battery. Black is power -
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The 84M0076067 does not supply power on any of this pins. It was made for the original VV7 not the VV702 or VV 703.
The original VV7 had a power port and a smartcraft port that is what the harness is for.
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The 702 & 703 do not have a smartcraft port anymore all the data comes from the nmea2000 port via the VV link.
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Thanks to ttmot & rlyncho3 for their help.
Now I am on to getting the gen data on the VV703.
Weren't you getting power to the VV but not the Link?
I did. I used the Vessel View 4 for the engines. Gauges were fine but there is a setting in the VV that has to be toggled for them to work. The VV will also display generator data as long as it's coming from the NMEA 2000 network.
To get the generator data, I used a Yacht Devices (YD) YDEG-04 Engine Gateway. There is a Maretron equivalent as described in an earlier post that can be used as well. I was able to use the existing engine data harness to tap in right at the helm, it just took some study of the diagrams (which are posted in this thread) to ID the correct wires. I had to build an adapter to get data from the J-box to the gateway using that info. On the generator, you will need to find the Network Interface Module (NIM) on the generator. Cutting one jumper converts it from Smartcraft to J1939.
I am able to see all the generator data on the VV and NMEA 2000 with the exception of generator engine hours. Ttmott and I tried to get this to work but no joy unless Tom got it to work. I even had the YD programmers working on it. Long story but the parameter only works if the J1939 sender gets a command from the using device. We think both the YD and Maretron were sending but the NIM wouldn't respond.
I was actually the first customer to use the YDEG-04 for this application. I worked with the programmers (who I think are in one of the Baltic republics) back and forth to get the settings right. So, we manipulated a number of parameters manually. I see they have incorporated all that into one of the standard configurations via a firmware update. The documentation for this update doesn't look like it's in the manual as yet but I found it in an update announcement:Did you use a custom config on the Yacht Devices (YD) YDEG-04 or just the default one?