Well Californication has done pounded another nail in the coffin!

There you go again. “Democracy” is the quickest way to self destruction there is. When 51% realize they can vote to be lazy and make the other 49% pay, you’re doomed. That’s why our founders didn’t adopt a democracy.
Correct!! Constitutional Republic. And we are not to be ruled by tyrants such as the potato in chief. He learned from another tyrant "I've got a pen and a phone..." Not that he understands what that means. He just waits for his puppet strings to start moving.
 
There you go again. “Democracy” is the quickest way to self destruction there is. When 51% realize they can vote to be lazy and make the other 49% pay, you’re doomed. That’s why our founders didn’t adopt a democracy.
I guess I need to stop using that offensive term. You guys seem to equate the term democracy with "Democrat". I will rephrase it with the same meaning and intention:

Not sure why so many of you hate your system of government so much. California has a majority of Democrat voters that have elected representatives that reflect what they want. And they voted in the representatives they wanted. Its a free country, so if you don't like it, you can move to another state. Or, get off your a$$ and try to get elected and convince a majority to vote for for representatives that share your view of what you want in your state.

Same for Florida. The majority want Republican leaders and that is what they have. If the majority decided to change to vote for Democrats, that would change, and that is exactly what your beautiful constitution would say was what is the best for the state or the country.

Personally I really hope that the GOP stops pandering to extreme views, realizes that you need to win in the middle, not the extreme. Its not the ranting and chanting sheep that attend Trump or Biden rallies that win the elections. Its the majority of people that have both conservative and liberal views, but have to pick a side when they vote. Call right-leaning on the fence democrats idiots on national TV while your sheep chant your meme slogans, and you lose potential votes. That was, and still is, what Trump thinks is the way to win again.
 
Correct!! Constitutional Republic. And we are not to be ruled by tyrants such as the potato in chief. He learned from another tyrant "I've got a pen and a phone..." Not that he understands what that means. He just waits for his puppet strings to start moving.
You are governed by the elected representatives that the majority of the voters voted for, because that was who they wanted. That is the way your constitution and your founding fathers wanted things to work and that is how they are working in California. You may not like it, but the majority of voters like it, and that is perfectly constitutional.

I know you don't see it this way, but the majority of your fellow Americans voted it this way....The GOP lost the election because the majority of voters wanted to get rid of a tyrant. They traded one form of tyranny for another. Unfortunately Biden was the only alternative. There are Republicans that could have won that election. But not Trump. Not this time and not in 2024. Its too bad.
 
You are governed by the elected representatives that the majority of the voters voted for, because that was who they wanted. That is the way your constitution and your founding fathers wanted things to work and that is how they are working in California. You may not like it, but the majority of voters like it, and that is perfectly constitutional.

I know you don't see it this way, but the majority of your fellow Americans voted it this way....The GOP lost the election because the majority of voters wanted to get rid of a tyrant. They traded one form of tyranny for another. Unfortunately Biden was the only alternative. There are Republicans that could have won that election. But not Trump. Not this time and not in 2024. Its too bad.
Our founders realized the the majority of people are freaking morons. California proves it.
 
I guess I need to stop using that offensive term. You guys seem to equate the term democracy with "Democrat". I will rephrase it with the same meaning and intention

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Oh gawd….

…So it’s everyone else’s fault that you constantly use the incorrect term and fail to completely understand our form of Government. o_O
 
Oh gawd….

…So it’s everyone else’s fault that you constantly use the incorrect term and fail to completely understand our form of Government. o_O
No its not. Its just irrelevant to the point being made. I totally get the sensitivity to using the term, so I will do my best to not distract from my point by using it in the future. I do understand your form of government.

I think you guys over overly sensitive to terminology though. Canada is a democracy. We elect regional representatives provincially and federally that form our government. So that aspect of our political system is similar to the US. The mechanisms are different, but the end result is representatives that are elected by voters (by majority). But point taken, I am happy to stop using democracy in referring to your system
 
Our founders realized the the majority of people are freaking morons. California proves it.
Then why,in your view, did they design such a fundamentally flawed system ? (In my view its not flawed, but the way)
 
Personally I really hope that the GOP stops pandering to extreme views, realizes that you need to win in the middle, not the extreme. Its not the ranting and chanting sheep that attend Trump or Biden rallies that win the elections. Its the majority of people that have both conservative and liberal views, but have to pick a side when they vote. Call right-leaning on the fence democrats idiots on national TV while your sheep chant your meme slogans, and you lose potential votes. That was, and still is, what Trump thinks is the way to win again.
I feel the left has been pandering to extremists much more than the right has. Look at the riots and looting. Heck, they took over whole cities and the dems ordered all law enforcement, etc, to let them be and do what they want. It's my opinion that that mindset has led to the direction society is going now. They were allowed to do whatever they wanted for months with no repercussions. So now they know with Biden in power they can continue that. Police officers are being assasinated at higher rates than ever before. They realize if they don't like something then they cry and protest and the dems give in to them. Similar to a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum.
 
Then why,in your view, did they design such a fundamentally flawed system ? (In my view its not flawed, but the way)
Our founders didn't design a flawed system. They designed one that protects the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That the beauty that most people don't understand. States on the other hand have pure democracies -- majority rules. That's why you have states with large cities screwing it up for everyone else in the not so populated areas -- see California, NY, Illinois, etc. States prove the rule that the majority is tyranny and mostly made up of morons.
 
Its a free country, so if you don't like it, you can move to another state.
Why should I be chased out of the state that I was raised and love just because the current majority are soft heads bent on their own destruction in the name of equity? I will just rather wait it out and hope the situation gets so bad that the people will eventually see a better path with conservative leadership in the future. The problem is that the republicans are too set in their ethics to stoop to doing what it takes to win elections. The Dems are perfectly willing to ignore the rules and laws and ethics to move their agenda forward. We just need to start bringing a gun to the knife fight!
Carpe Diem
 
….I will just rather wait it out and hope the situation gets so bad that the people will eventually see a better path with conservative leadership in the future….

Hope you’re in perfect health and plan on living a long time if you think you’ll ever see that happen in CA. Y’all just blew your best chance if that’s an indication of where those in the land of fruits and nuts are at for the foreseeable future….
 
Why should I be chased out of the state that I was raised and love just because the current majority are soft heads bent on their own destruction in the name of equity? I will just rather wait it out and hope the situation gets so bad that the people will eventually see a better path with conservative leadership in the future. The problem is that the republicans are too set in their ethics to stoop to doing what it takes to win elections. The Dems are perfectly willing to ignore the rules and laws and ethics to move their agenda forward. We just need to start bringing a gun to the knife fight!
Carpe Diem
Is that what happened in the last election in California? And the one before that? The Dems ignored rules and laws and ethics? No. The state voted in the Governor that the majority wanted. Also confirmed in the recall vote. Its a Democratically governed state. For now.

And I have no idea what you mean by bringing a gun to a knife fight, but it doesn't sound like a great plan.
 
Is that what happened in the last election in California? And the one before that? The Dems ignored rules and laws and ethics? No. The state voted in the Governor that the majority wanted. Also confirmed in the recall vote. Its a Democratically governed state. For now.

And I have no idea what you mean by bringing a gun to a knife fight, but it doesn't sound like a great plan.
No. What happens after being beaten like a rug so many times is they disappear for all intents and purposes. The Dems end up with super majorities and destroy the place like a bunch of drunk kids. All the Dems have to do is control the cities with their shenanigans. And if you don’t think they pull chit I have a bridge to sell you.
 
No. What happens after being beaten like a rug so many times is they disappear for all intents and purposes. The Dems end up with super majorities and destroy the place like a bunch of drunk kids. All the Dems have to do is control the cities with their shenanigans. And if you don’t think they pull chit I have a bridge to sell you.
Who disappears? Republicans? Well that's just sad. Then they get what they deserve if they aren't willing to vote. But I don't believe that is the issue in California.

The reason California is a Democratic state is because the majority of those that live in the state (and choose to vote) have made that decision. Its the way it is supposed to work.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I have said before that I would probably vote Republican if I was American and if there was a moderate Republican to vote for. I have voted Conservative here in Canada in every election since 18 years old. And that will never change. And I don't think my neighbours are nutcases, or stupid for voting Liberal. Its their choice and their set of priorities in life (and tolerance for role of government and tax and spend I guess).
 
If you think the CA recall election was on the up and up, I must have missed where they went back to paper ballots in lieu of the Dominion system...
 
Why should I be chased out of the state that I was raised and love just because the current majority are soft heads bent on their own destruction in the name of equity? I will just rather wait it out and hope the situation gets so bad that the people will eventually see a better path with conservative leadership in the future. The problem is that the republicans are too set in their ethics to stoop to doing what it takes to win elections. The Dems are perfectly willing to ignore the rules and laws and ethics to move their agenda forward. We just need to start bringing a gun to the knife fight!
Carpe Diem
You're absolutely right. I felt the same way about Massachusetts. Job brought me elsewhere and I feel I gave up the hill. If you love the state, which I completely understand, then fight for it!
 
This is exactly why I got the hell out of Screw Jersey. When they elected that bucktoothed tyrant Phil Murphy back in '17, I began my exit plan. He ran on a platform of raising taxes (We already were one of the heaviest taxed states), turning it into a sanctuary state and issuing driver's licenses to illegals. NJ has been the #1 exited state for several years running. Why? Because the working people with the incomes LEAVE. That's why he asked the federal government for a 40B bailout. Claimed it was due to COVID. lol We were over 30B in debt before he shut the state down. When all the working and earning people leave, as they are, what is left? A steaming pot of rotting shit begging for handouts. Have at it Socialists. NJ is yours. Enjoy!
 
Who disappears? Republicans? Well that's just sad. Then they get what they deserve if they aren't willing to vote.
Hold on a moment. Back in your post #42, you said
Its a free country, so if you don't like it, you can move to another state.
So, what would you have us do? By your own words we're damned if we do, damned if we don't!
 
Hold on a moment. Back in your post #42, you said

So, what would you have us do? By your own words we're damned if we do, damned if we don't!
Yup. If you are not on the side of the elected government and the people that elected them, you either live with it, or you move.
 
Who disappears? Republicans? Well that's just sad. Then they get what they deserve if they aren't willing to vote. But I don't believe that is the issue in California.

The reason California is a Democratic state is because the majority of those that live in the state (and choose to vote) have made that decision. Its the way it is supposed to work.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I have said before that I would probably vote Republican if I was American and if there was a moderate Republican to vote for. I have voted Conservative here in Canada in every election since 18 years old. And that will never change. And I don't think my neighbours are nutcases, or stupid for voting Liberal. Its their choice and their set of priorities in life (and tolerance for role of government and tax and spend I guess).
You keep missing the fact that people are generally morons. They are like frogs in a pot of water on the stove. They don't realize they'll be boiling and dead soon. The folks that vote these looser Democrat Socialists in think everything is skittles and rainbows.
 

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