AIS transponders W/WIFI for IPAD and Navionics

Discussion in 'Electronics Q&A' started by Roch Speiser, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. Roch Speiser

    Roch Speiser Member

    80
    Sep 9, 2019
    Tuckerton NJ
    1995 SeaRay 370 Sundancer
    2
    Curious if anyone has bought, knows about or installed any of the newer AIS products with WIFI and internal/external GPS (or antenna) that integrates to the Navionics product on my IPAD PRO, used for navigation. I would like to make this addition to my boat. Thanks
     
  2. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    870
    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    With the exception of integrating with the Navionics, which I do not know about, I have really been pleased with my Vesper Marine AIS Transponder, purchased in January 2019. It has WiFi so you can see it on your phone or tablet. I'm just not sure of the integration with Navionics. The Vesper has integrated nicely with my new Garmin 8612 xsv.

    Vesper is down in New Zealand, and they are very nice to work with for a technical question. I purchased the unit from BOE Marine.

    https://www2.vespermarine.com/xb8000-ais-transponder
     
  3. Roch Speiser

    Roch Speiser Member

    80
    Sep 9, 2019
    Tuckerton NJ
    1995 SeaRay 370 Sundancer
    2
    Vesper is a Navionics partner for integration in their ipad app via wifi/vhf. They apparently just launched this integration recently in their app to overlay. Im just trying to find the best solution for my needs including price. Im not off shore but will be on back bay of NJ for the first time. Previous 15 years on Delaware river which was not difficult at all.
     
  4. ttmott

    ttmott PhD in OCD GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    This may not really answer your question however, the Garmin suite on my boat allows the helm to be viewed and controlled on my Ipad or Iphone through their Active Captain App via Bluetooth. The Garmin AIS800 transponder's information is also completely viewable; On the Ipad, for example, the AIS target can be touched and that vessel's AIS data is displayed. Essentially, the Iphone or Ipad mimics both in view and command the Garmin MFD's
     
  5. Roch Speiser

    Roch Speiser Member

    80
    Sep 9, 2019
    Tuckerton NJ
    1995 SeaRay 370 Sundancer
    2
    Thanks for the ongoing information guys. I currently do not have any other equipment at the helm except for the ipad pro.
     
  6. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    1998 450 Sundancer, Achilles dinghy
    3126 Cat's
    I currently do not have AIS onboard but I have a new RM a127 and iPod as back up... I boat on Puget sound and adding it is not a huge priority for me, but if there are low cost options out there I'm looking...
     
  7. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    So just curious ...what is your biggest return on investing in the Vesper?
     
  8. Roch Speiser

    Roch Speiser Member

    80
    Sep 9, 2019
    Tuckerton NJ
    1995 SeaRay 370 Sundancer
    2
    Just ordered the EM-TRAK B924 with wifi/bluetooth and vhf splitter....will integrate with my navionics app, seems to be the low cost option for non-ocean travel like back bays only. Saved a couple hundred bucks from the Vesper
     
  9. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    870
    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    1. It can see around corners.
    2. I can see them, but more importantly, they can see me and reach out and contact me by name.
    3. It helps me sleep well, especially when we travel down to the Norfolk, VA area.
     
  10. ttmott

    ttmott PhD in OCD GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    Only if "they" have a transponder also; Other than commercial vessels not many do....
    That's why AIS is only another tool in the toolbox.
     
  11. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    870
    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    To be fair, my level of concern about a 20-60 foot vessel is a lot less that a 100-1200 foot commercial freighter/tanker/tug, appearing to be just sitting in the water, and they are actually doing 18-22 knots! They are deceptively quick. The AIS gives me all sorts of information including target bearing, TCPA, and CPA, and Range.
     
  12. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    When I upgraded our vhf on the 280 I added a Standard Horizon (2150?) that added the AIS receive only function. I was able to export the data to my mfd that interpreted it and processed proximity warnings. The add on cost for us at the time was pretty high although the premium for the vhf itself was quite small. At the time nmea0183 was the only networking solution and we had already maxed out the simple connection combinations with other stuff so a multiplexer had to be added. That added time and cost. My guess now is that a receive only AIS would be almost no cost if coupled with a vhf purchase.

    Ttmott is not completely accurate on the advantages of having a transceiver. The new boat added a transceiver and prior to that I shared the same opinion. What we learned is that besides other vessels, a vessel transmitting AIS can be tracked using apps/websites like MarineTraffic. These allows folks on shore to track your progress moving AIS from being solely a collision avoidance system to a tracking and identifying system. And although not perfect it makes boating safer by making float plans far more effective.

    Since the AIS transceiver in many cases is self contained, it could be installed to come on and transmit regardless of the other bridge electronics when the engine(s) are running. In doing the AIS becomes becomes a boating LoJack system.
     
  13. GnrlPatton

    GnrlPatton Active Member

    301
    Jul 12, 2010
    Maple Valley, WA
    Current: 1998 370 Express Cruiser
    Sold:1988 230 Weekender
    Twin Cat 3116T
    I'm considering doing this exact thing after I got an email last summer from Navionics that said they now offer this with select compatible AIS Transceivers.

    Here's their compatibility list: https://d2wb2wm9dm62ai.cloudfront.n...es_plotter/Mobile/Boating_app_AIS_Devices.pdf

    I'm looking into the Vesper Watchmate 8000, there's currently a $50 rebate on it through May from Fisheries Supply here in Seattle: https://www.fisheriessupply.com/ves...transponder-nmea-2000-usb-wifi-gps-ant-xb8000

    I just need to figure out the mount point on my boat so I can supply the necessary location requirements at order time, it needs to be programmed to your MMSI number before they ship it, and they need that info.

    Kevin
     
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  14. Roch Speiser

    Roch Speiser Member

    80
    Sep 9, 2019
    Tuckerton NJ
    1995 SeaRay 370 Sundancer
    2
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    Correct....Thats what I paid for my em-trak b924. They are compatible with navionics software. Im going to look into surface mount on dash with everything gone except the ipad. Still debating that in my head. Helm behind dash pretty filled up with abandoned and existing cables etc etc i removed all the original electronics that didnt work for a fresh look.
     

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