cockpit carpet backing

Peter,

I'm thinking on getting this product to fix carpets on my 320DA. Could you let me know how did you apply it? Is it simply brush off the loosen parts from the backing and roll on this new rubber paint, or is there any other steps involved?

Thanks,
Alex.
 
Peter,

I have the same problem with the backing on my '01 280. Can you tell me if you bought the smooth or textured coating. Also, it looks like you just did the bad spots and not the whole carpet. I was thinking of doing the whole carpet.

Thanks,

Glenn
 
I called the Durabak company and asked for sampler. They told me that they don't have official data to prove that it's good for using as a carpet backing. But, they said it's flexible enough.

So, I got the sample swatch in the mail and it's very different than existing carpet backing. It feels like a heavy rubber paint mixed with sand. It's applied to thick foil swatch and bends very easy. So, flexibility is not an issue, but I can't say that the finish is good or soft enough.

Did anyone try this?
http://www.createforless.com/Fiber-....aspx?SI=2fb5fce1-6ae5-456f-89eb-6d185af4d6f5

Alex.
 
I just purchased carpet from snapincarpet.com for my 340. I upgraded the backing to a clear/beige ribbed backing and love it. Because of the design, water should be able to drain and dry much faster than with the black backing. I expect it will last much longer as well. The Admiral likes it a lot. It feels very plush and soft on the feet.

I paid about $650, including shipping. The only challenge I have now is to install the snaps.
 
mooredriven said:
I just purchased carpet from snapincarpet.com for my 340. I upgraded the backing to a clear/beige ribbed backing and love it. Because of the design, water should be able to drain and dry much faster than with the black backing. I expect it will last much longer as well. The Admiral likes it a lot. It feels very plush and soft on the feet.

I paid about $650, including shipping. The only challenge I have now is to install the snaps.
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mooredriven,
My 320 has 3 piece carpet in the cockpit (1 for helm, 1 by port seat and 1 by engine hatch). Does your 340 have similar? Did you replace all 3 pieces for $650?

Thx,
Alex.
 
I actually have 4 pieces. The fourth is a small piece in front of the passenger seat on the port side. They actually had my template and emailed to me for verification before ordering. They offered different colors and backing, and will mail you a sample.

Very good service.
 
After reading this thread a few weeks ago I decided to try to do somthing about the crumbling backing on my carpets which I had tossed on a shelf in my garage three years ago since the backing was such a mess. As usuall the carpet looked fine. I came up with this stuff: www.grizzlygrip.com. I figured I had nothing to loose so I ordered a gallon and a quart of the "fine" in black and painted it on. It worked great and I think it will hold up very well. My carpets are now reinstalled for the first time in three seasons.
 
J Levine said:
After reading this thread a few weeks ago I decided to try to do somthing about the crumbling backing on my carpets which I had tossed on a shelf in my garage three years ago since the backing was such a mess. As usuall the carpet looked fine. I came up with this stuff: www.grizzlygrip.com. I figured I had nothing to loose so I ordered a gallon and a quart of the "fine" in black and painted it on. It worked great and I think it will hold up very well. My carpets are now reinstalled for the first time in three seasons.
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I just checked the site and this looks very like Durabak product. Does the paint feel sandy? What did you pay for it?

Thx,
Alex.
 
I purchased the Black Aromatic with a fine texture which is $63 a gallon or $20 per quart along with the roller pads. The stuff is textured rubber and grips the cockpit floor very well. It is totally flexible as once I painted it on and it dried I could bend the carpet very tight and it would not crack. I figured this stuff is susposed to hold up in the bed of a pickup so this application on the underside of a carpet should be childs play. I have to say I was very impressed on how well it worked, I guess time will tell if it holds up. Keep in mind my carpets were in really bad shape, I started by using a wire brush to remove all the dried hard backing from the carpet, I was worried the coating would seep though the carpet fibers but it never did. I took two coats to do it and I used 1 gal and 1 quart for my carpets but keep in mind my boat has a 13' beam so they are big.

I actually called the company and spoke to a guy and told him what I was planning on doing with his product and he said he had never heard or thought of going this with the stuff but he thought it would work well. You can see from their website that they are looking for other applications for the stuff beyond truck bed lining. One note of caution, the solvent in this stuff is HEAVY DUTY. I think they actually warn you that the shelf life is only a few months. I put a drop cloth on my garage floor and had to open the doors after a few minutes to get some air. Should of had a respirator on but of course I didn't. Didn't need drink any beer after this job if you get my drift (or wiff)
 
Alex F said:
Peter,

I'm thinking on getting this product to fix carpets on my 320DA. Could you let me know how did you apply it? Is it simply brush off the loosen parts from the backing and roll on this new rubber paint, or is there any other steps involved?

Thanks,
Alex.
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Hello Alex,

Sorry for my late reply, but i was on a trip...
Yes simply brush off the loosen parts, clean with ammoniac.
Then roll in on the "paint".

Very simple and effective.

Peter
 
Sun Chaser said:
Peter,

I have the same problem with the backing on my '01 280. Can you tell me if you bought the smooth or textured coating. Also, it looks like you just did the bad spots and not the whole carpet. I was thinking of doing the whole carpet.

Thanks,

Glenn
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Hello Glenn,

I bought the smooth coating.
Because the carpet is fixed with snaps, and the result is ok.

Peter
 
Ok guys, we had many debates and questions on the subjects, but I figured I will always have the chance to spend $700+ for new carpets, so I figure before I throw original ones away I'll give them another chance by spending $80. With some advise from Peter I've contacted the Durabrak and decided to order the least expensive black textered paint. We all know the before images, so I'll just post during the process and after pics. BTW, as you could see I've decided to apply the paint to a complete backing area, not just dried parts. First, I had lots of the drying spots and second, I already know that it's just a matter of time before the rest will go bad. So, I decided to do the whole thing.

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Few words on the project:
1. This paint has very strong odor, so do it outside.
2. Ware good clothing protection, the paint doesn't wash off easy.
3. Cover the warking area, I've used large garbage bag and it was easy to roll all leftovers in it and throw it away.
4. Use masking tape to protect the parts of carpet that you don't want painted, especially snaps.
5. I've tried using roller, but found that it just keeps picking up the sandy part of the paint and I switched to brush.
6. The paint is different, unlike regular house paint, so you'll need few minutes to get use to applying it.
7. Two coats are a must, so plan accordingly.
8. When dry, the paint is like sandy rubber and is very flexible.

I was in a bit of a rush due to other activities, so mine didn't comeout perfect, but in the end I was pretty happy with the results. One thing I've noticed while installing the carpets back, that the paint shrunk it a little, so it'll reqire some strength to get some snaps in place.

I don't know how long Durabrak will last, but for now about 1.5hrs of work and less than $100 bits the over $700 carpet replacement job.

Good luck,
Alex.
 
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Mine carpets that I coated with the Grizzly Grip are holding up great so far.
 
My carpets are stored in the hold under the v-berth. The bare fiberglass sole is much easier to maintain. I take the carpets out very occasionally, usually when we have guest and will not be doing any swimming. The carpets look like new and I don't have pieces of rubber backing stuck to the cockpit's sole.

Best regards,
Frank C
 
Frank,
For the same reason we don't like to use the larger part of carpetting (the one that covers the engine hatch). This is high traffic area, including all food and drinks potentially ending up on the floor. But, I like having on at the helm and by the cabin.

BTW, what you guys do when the carpets do get wet? Do you just leave them in place and let them dry as-is or do you unsnap them and store them on a side to prevent moisture build up in the backing?
 
Alex F said:
BTW, what you guys do when the carpets do get wet? Do you just leave them in place and let them dry as-is or do you unsnap them and store them on a side to prevent moisture build up in the backing?
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The best is to gently drape the carpet over something to let it completely dry. Then you can snap it back down or roll up and store (if winterizing). In any case never roll the carpet up and store wet.
 
Corintian,

I was actually referring to day to day usage. There water always finds a way to get under the carpet during havy rain, so the some carpets to get wet. So, I was just wandering is other folks just let them dry as-is in place or always take them put and let them dry before putting back in.
 
I'm pretty jazzed about this thread. :thumbsup: I've been watching it since inception in the hopes of going to to school on the results. My carpets are just 4 years old and have "carpet cancer" where the carpet is routinely exposes to sun and salt water. One section is the worse as it gets wet constantly and is the main walking surface. I'm told that the saltwater and sun exposure is what causes the foam to become brittle and turn to "crumb".

In my 460 replacement carpets in the AquaBlok material (clear silicone rubber strips) is being quoted to me at nearly $1500. This flexible brush on material for $150 holds out the promise of extending the life of otherwise fine carpet for a few years!

Questions: Has anyone one had this material on their carpets long enough to determine if it is prone to delamination or pulling off the old foam backing?

Does the old foam continue to deteriorate and new patches separate under the new coated areas?

Did the coating cause any old foam backing to melt or pull away during the application and curing process?

How long does it take for this stuff to cure to allow use on deck?

What was used to get off the only crumbing mess on the back of the carpets? Anyone try 3M stripping pads, wire brushes, or was the loose stuff just knocked off and coated over?

Thanks
 
Alex F said:
Corintian,

I was actually referring to day to day usage. There water always finds a way to get under the carpet during havy rain, so the some carpets to get wet. So, I was just wandering is other folks just let them dry as-is in place or always take them put and let them dry before putting back in.
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In heavy rain, our camper canvas tends to leak a bit near the helm. Not a ton of water, but enough to soak helm carpet, and sometimes the forward cockpit carpet. The aft carpet always seems to stay dry. Anyhow, I usually pull the two carpets that do get wet when we leave the boat at the end of the weekend. If I forget and they do get wet, I usually bring them home to dry. When I do that, I drape them over our deck railing in the sun.

-CJ
 
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