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COVID vaccine or not ?

Discussion in 'The Tiki Bar' started by Blueone, Dec 1, 2020.

Will you get the COVID vaccine?...

  1. Heck yes.. first in line

    47 vote(s)
    43.5%
  2. You go first and I will wait and see

    34 vote(s)
    31.5%
  3. I am already part of the herd

    7 vote(s)
    6.5%
  4. Absolutely not

    20 vote(s)
    18.5%
  1. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

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    The media is playing this like people are afraid to take a chance on the side effects of the vaccine. Just curious what you guys think. It seems the companies creating the vaccines are pretty similar.
     
  2. Soulshine

    Soulshine Well-Known Member

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    I think some people are concerned that’s it’s been rushed and released too soon.

    Then there are the few that think the vaccine is part of a huge and silly conspiracy to control the population, but that’s another thread altogether.

    If it appears to be safe, effective and I see those things first hand I’m in.

    If I die from this virus after flying through life for 59 years I’m gonna be pissed.
     
  3. OllieC

    OllieC Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Pretty sure we've had it already. We all stay active and healthy. You can have mine.
     
  4. blaster

    blaster Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

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    I think it’s just saline placebo.
     
  5. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    Anacortes Washington
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 Charts Timezero radar Furuno
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    When polio vaccine first came out some people died from it. It was call bad first batch. The rest of the batches were good. I got this information form the internet.
    At this point I will wait to see if their any side effects.
     
  6. firecadet613

    firecadet613 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2007
    Indiana
    '07 V358
    T- VP 5.7GXi
    Yep, I'll be first in line! NOT.

    Have you seen this commercial yet? I had to do a double take. It's a new drug to treat the side effects of other drugs!



    There was another one I saw a few nights ago (can't find it right now), that the side effects list was massive - you'd be better off not taking it....
     
  7. blaster

    blaster Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 23, 2011
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    2010 sea ray 205 sport
    F-250 CCLB 6.2 4x4 3.73 rear.
    Mercruiser 4.3 mpi alpha 1.62
    Genius! A drug for the drugs! Maybe they can market the next drug for the side effects of this drug. Sounds like a money maker!
     
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  8. sbw1

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    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    Sure, I'll take it as soon as it's available. The phase 3 trials had the usual large numbers of subjects and the normal protocols were followed. We will know for sure if the science is good when the data is published, and skeptics can have a look at it. We have known how to make good vaccines since the days of Jonas Saulk. That vaccine was 90%+ effective and was responsible for irradiating polio worldwide. Technology has enabled us to do it faster today. And, the speed of the development was enhanced by the Fed's promise to buy all of the doses regardless of their effectiveness. This took all the financial risk out of the venture for the drug companies so they went full steam ahead. Then Trump leaned on the FDA to look at the results when they became available instead of making the drug companies get in the bureaucratic que and wait for approval. We are fortunate to have three good vaccines available. It is always good to have options.
     
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  9. mquiet

    mquiet Well-Known Member

    Aug 4, 2009
    North carolina
    1999 480 Sedan Bridge
    Caterpillar 3196
    I have a nephew going into the military for a second round. He has already been told about taking the vaccine. My guess would be if the military is all going to take it, then most people should. That said, be advised the second injection tends to induce more side effects of fever and severe fatigue for about 48 hrs as the immune response is rapid. There are less side effects from the first(loading) injection according to the CDC.
     
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  10. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

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    Every year people risk getting the flu and feeling like crap for ten days because they refuse the flu vaccine. Feeling a little under the weather for 48 hours is nothing. We have become a nation of wusses. I got a tetanus booster the other day on a Tuesday and the pharmacist asked me if I wanted to wait until Thursday. I asked, "Why wait." She said, "because your arm is going to hurt." What a lame way to look at things. I told her when you get to be my age you hurt every day. What's one more ache?
     
  11. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
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    Yes, I'll be in the line... Last year I had the two injections for shingles, I already had my flu shot last month, and I had a MRI today for my left elbow (slip and fall on ice), I told the Techs that the only thing they could do to make it better was to get a car battery, jumper cables and attach them to my testicles... Good times
     
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  12. El Capitan

    El Capitan Well-Known Member

    Jul 9, 2014
    Chicago IL./Vero Beach, Fl
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    Many people have no clue the elements in these active vaccines.

    It’s not a “no” that I won’t take it. It’s HELL NO.

    I encourage folks to research what these vaccines contain before taking it.
     
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  13. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

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    So it is not a live virus vaccine. Instead it's using messenger RNA technology to program you immune response. They have been studying for a while, but to date there are no approved messenger RNA vaccines for any disease. Promising technology, but jury is out on longer term effects.

    As for me, I'll be waiting as I don't really fit the criteria to get an early dose (other than a little calorically challenged). I have been staying away from people much of my life and I can do it a little while longer. :)
     
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  14. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

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  15. wyrman

    wyrman Well-Known Member

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    Tri-Cities, Wa
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    I don't get the flu vaccine, and I won't be getting this one either. I hardly ever get sick, unless you want to count seasonal allergies. My wife said recently that in the 20 years we've been together, I have been sick maybe twice.
    I've been pretty lucky as far as my health goes..... so far.
     
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  16. sbw1

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    However you may contract Covid19, develop a subclinical case and go on to make others very ill. Something to think about as that will cause harm to innocent bystanders. And, it adds stress to healthcare providers who are all feeling lots of pressure today.
     
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  17. boatman37

    boatman37 Well-Known Member

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    Not me. At least not for awhile after I see any short term side effects. I have never got a flu shot and hardly get sick so I'll take my chances
     
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  18. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

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    But wouldn't someone susceptible to becoming very ill get the vaccine? At what point do we go back to individual responsibility for protecting yourself? It's one thing when we don't have a vaccine or good treatment to require people to protect others -- wearing masks, etc. But once we have the vaccine can we not just make people responsible to get the vaccine if they want protection?
     
  19. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

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    There are two questions that have different but related answers. I’ll take a stab at the first and leave the second part for another day. Your first is the logical; shouldn’t those at greatest risk take the vaccine? Yes, most should. But there is a large group that includes myself who are at significant risk that are limited to what they can take in the way of vaccinations. Those of us with compromised immune systems are susceptible to becoming sick from the disease the vaccination is meant to control. This does not mean all vaccinations are off limits (I got a flu shot this year), just some depending on how they function in the body. So until more specifics of each vaccine are made public it may be some time before we will know which ones will be safest for people with immune system issues. This group includes not only those like myself who take immunosuppressants because they are organ transplant recipients, but those with reduced immune system function from other medical conditions.
     
  20. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

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    That's the interesting thing about this vaccine. Because it is not a live virus it may be safer for immune compromised people. The admiral has immune issues and her doctor said she should get it since it's not a live virus. He doesn't recommend many vaccines for her.

    In response to my question though, why is your situation my problem? At what point do you take over responsibility for your protection from me? (And I say this not personally but as part of the conversation).
     
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