Cramped indoor storage frustrations

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Blueone, Jan 5, 2020.

  1. my3sons

    my3sons Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 24, 2009
    NY (Lake Erie)
    2004 400DB, Onan 9 kw Gen, Highfield RIB,
    Cummins 6CTA
    You're right. But, Do I really expect them to "mark off" an area 14 1/2 x 44 and say "that's yours", no, but what blueone has is going to far the other way. If I couldn't get in the er, I'd shrink wrap outside. There's a place in Alex Bay (1000 islands) that is brand new, indoor heated, costs a fortune, and once it's in, they let you go in one weekend in November and one weekend in April to do whatever. That's it. They tell you way ahead of time the dates so you can arrange to be there. What's the point imo. You can winterize these things in less than a day. Put it in cold storage. So storage conditions are all over the place, I'm happy with our place.
     
  2. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    609
    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    Maybe a bit of an instigator post... I used to do nothing but inside heated storage. Same thing, I couldn’t even have my hull wheeled or waxed until Spring after they moved boats around me. Then you’re delayed in getting to the engines too. Last year was my first year of outside and honestly it was awesome. Not only cheaper but way more accessibility to my boat all year around.
     
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  3. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I am going to get this solved next year. If you guys remember last year they hit my boat into the boat behind me. This stress and frustration should not be part of the $4k experience
     
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  4. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    The problem with leaving the charger on all winter starts when you have faulty or underwatered batteries. The batteries never reach a voltage high enough to shut the charger off so the charger keeps applying amps and gassing the batteries. The gas is hydrogen so I don't need to describe what can happen in that situation. As has been said there is no need to keep a charger running all winter when the batteries are good and disconnected.
     
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  5. firecadet613

    firecadet613 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2007
    Indiana
    '07 V358
    T- VP 5.7GXi
    I'm in indoor cold and this was from a few years ago, the day I went in.

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    They pack us in tight. I'm telling myself I'll go heated next year...we'll see as you can't get to the sides to wax them.

    This past year I switched marina's and had a much further trip to haul out, so I left my canvas up. Doing so gave me a good few feet behind me and I can open my engine hatch up all the way. I'll start doing that every year!

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  6. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    All the finger pointing happens between the insurance companies, so individual customers are largely excluded from the fights.
     
  7. Brent Nutting

    Brent Nutting Active Member

    290
    Mar 24, 2016
    Lk Saint Clair, Fair Haven, MI
    2002 480 Sedan Bridge
    10' Aventus RIB w/ 9.9 Merc
    Cat 3196
    Bluone, I know it is too far of a run from where you are now, but the team at Algonac Harbor Club sure do take good care of us. They left room for the boat to be fully cleaned and covered. If is wasn't so far for you, I would suggest going back to AHC for winter storage.
     
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  8. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    IMG_4230.JPG CE70CD65-8A9D-4181-9992-3F34F80C9F8B.JPG Ideal indoor heated storage conditions. Moved the boats around me and left mine in place so I could work on it.
     
  9. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I was there at AHC for two years. The crew is top notch for sure especially compared to where I am at now. But I had my problems there too with being too close side by side, I had stuff stolen (rags, electrical cord, paint supplies left under the boat, I even had one guy blame me for stealing stuff), very dirty, bird poop and roof leaking... that place is where I started using plastic the second year.... I am starting to think I wasn't meant for indoor heated storage :)
     
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  10. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    Somewhere in this thread is the hidden message of "going bigger is better" :):)

    Even rub-rail to rub-rail you can still wax the hull on a 340+. Plenty of room to get around :)
     
  11. firecadet613

    firecadet613 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2007
    Indiana
    '07 V358
    T- VP 5.7GXi
    I wish! They pack my 37' in with a smaller rub rail below mine.

    I'm thankful where I'm at now, they give me a good week or so before they put someone right next to me.
     
  12. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    Crap...never thought of that. Quite right! I've only ever been next to similarly sized boats in storage. "Just enough" angle on the hulls to make waxing okay. But yeah...a smaller/lower vessel next to you would indeed make this impossible :)
     
  13. Jimmy Buoy

    Jimmy Buoy Well-Known Member

    Dec 3, 2008
    Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
    340 Amberjack
    twin 8.1S 370 Hp + 4.5 Westerbeke Genset
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    I found an old factory that was turned into a heated boat storage place. With all the support posts its harder for them to get the boats too close to each other!
     
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  14. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    Actually they do. Selling you 4 feet may just keep them from getting a 40 foot boat in and they have no way to know until the building is full.

    MM
     
  15. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    Defiantly the norm...

    MM
     
  16. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    609
    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    I forgot about that Blue.

    I will admit there is a lot less stress in heated storage when the temps plummet to the negatives.
     
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  17. Phasma

    Phasma Phasma2128 PLATINUM Sponsor

    409
    Sep 17, 2016
    West Michigan
    2003 360 Sundancer
    Mercruiser 8.1s Horizon
    Schedule a late winter buff and wax for the service department to get done in January then cancel it in December. They will certainly leave themselves enough room to work....
     
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  18. Z-Worthy

    Z-Worthy Active Member

    420
    Jun 20, 2014
    Sandusky, OH
    1997 400 DA
    300hp CAT 3116s
    I'm less frustrated with the tight packing of the boats than I am with the limited hours to gain access. Every year I end up going wherever they'll give me the code so I can work on the boat on evenings and weekends. But it gets harder and harder every year to find a heated facility that's open beyond 9-4, M-F. I'm trying to talk my wife into letting me build my own heated facility just so I can do boat stuff on weekends!
     
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  19. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    4:00!? That's a dream for me. Try driving over 2 hours to the facility, and hearing the "prepare to get kicked out" horn at 2:45!
     
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  20. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

    831
    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    Guess we're really lucky. Our's is open 7 days a week between 8:30 and 5 except for a 2 week period Dec 22 to Jan 6th.
     

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