Dead control panel 190BR

mdougbrf

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Jul 28, 2008
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Just replaced the control panel for the lights, horn, blower etc and the new one is dead too. Fuse panel shows all green. Any suggestions?
 
Just replaced the control panel for the lights, horn, blower etc and the new one is dead too. Fuse panel shows all green. Any suggestions?

Well, to be honest, i don't think there is enough info in your post to really help you out. But,that may just be me. I'll give it my best though.

First: You need to find a wiring schematic for your particular boat if you don't already have one. Without a schematic you are pretty much just guessing,wasting T+M and frustrating yourself. I consider keeping a schematic on your vessel a neccessity.

Second: Fuse panel shows "all green"? What does this mean? Are you using a logic/power probe to check it out or does your fuse panel have some kind of LED indicator set up on it?

Third: Do you understand basic DC electrical principles? In a nutshell; you have a electrical potential source(the battery), a circuit protection device(fuse or CB),a load(lets say the blower),a switch to open and close the circuit and the associated connectors,wiring etc. Since you have more than one item dead it would be prudent to look at the schematic and determine what these loads have in common. I would be looking at power supply to the switches or ground for the components in question. Some voltage drop tests using the schematic should help you quickly isolate the problem. If yo don't know how to do this I suggest you learn. Its simple and can save your hyde(and your wallet). I personally think that anyone with a boat should have a understanding of basic electricity. Good luck.
 
Just replaced the control panel for the lights, horn, blower etc and the new one is dead too. Fuse panel shows all green. Any suggestions?

Probably your old panel was OK. ECM box - what panel is connected to is probably death. Green LEDs show only that fuses are OK but not electronic part of the system
 
boatmailster - thanks for your reply. The problem is probably with the ECM box. I didn't stop to think that the LED's just show the fuse status.
 
Mike-n-Jolie - nice rebuke but not really very helpful. I'm sorry my post and my experience with electronics didn't meet your expectations. I'll try and do better next time.
 
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Mike-n-Jolie - nice rebuke but not really very helpful. I'm sorry my post and my experience with electronics didn't meet your expectations. I'll try and do better next time.

Its ok. Sorry if I came off wrong. I've been doing electrical/electronics stuff for the better part of 20 yrs now and honestly tend to make things too complicated when I try to help people out. Its frustrating for me because,in situations like yours-I know I could nail it down pretty quickly but I'm not there. Trying to convey accumulated knowledge over the internet doesn't always work out so well but,the good intentions are there.

Um, I'm not quite sure what is going on with your boat but it sounds to me like your fuse box has LED indicators on it. Without more info its hard to advise as to what to do next(this is where the schematic comes in). From reading other posts on your thread,it sounds like there may be some solid state controls involved with these circuits(ECM box thing). Do you have a schematic for the electrical system on your boat? If not can you get one? To me,having a microprocessor control functions such as bilge/blower etc. seems over complicated but at the same time;it makes sense(not having to remember to turn the blower on at low speed/level switch monitoring to control the bilge etc). i would love to help you out but without more info-its a shot in the dark.

If you're going to own a boat,do yourself a favor and somehow-learn the fundamentals of DC electrical systems. Its not complicated and can save you a LOT of aggravation. Not to mention that its summertime and you would probably rather spend your time playing on your boat-not pulling your hair out on it. A decent multimeter,test light,jumper leads and some basic electrical repair items(tape,fuses,terminals etc) in a little kit on your boat can really be a benefit. Of course,some people don't want to mess with that and I understand that but,if you're the tinkering/DIY type you should heed my advice.

If you come up with a schematic and can post it up-do it. I'll be more than glad to review it and give you some advice(others here might be more inclined to help too if they have specific info). Until then-good luck and if you have any questions,call me, 757-438-5812(Mike).:smt001
 
mike is right. you don't give enough info. we know you have a 190br and your control panel is bad. Please put your boat info in your signature line.

I will assume you have a boat similar in year to mine. This happened to me last year. The elctronic control module was bad but the fuses showed as good like you described. Take a look at the picture below. you can see where the board got fried.
w2f-burntcircuitboard.jpg


The dealer couldn't get a new ECM. Luckily one of our members here had one that I was able to buy at a good price.
 
mike is right. you don't give enough info. we know you have a 190br and your control panel is bad. Please put your boat info in your signature line.

I will assume you have a boat similar in year to mine. This happened to me last year. The elctronic control module was bad but the fuses showed as good like you described. Take a look at the picture below. you can see where the board got fried.
w2f-burntcircuitboard.jpg


The dealer couldn't get a new ECM. Luckily one of our members here had one that I was able to buy at a good price.

Wow,so this is a "smart" fuse box. Freakin cool. Looks like a cap failed and took out another component(pre-driver maybe). Are these fuse boxes able to self test(with a scanner or some other technique)?
 

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