Explain this to me...

Discussion in 'Electrical Stuff' started by dwna1a, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. dwna1a

    dwna1a Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    someone please explain to me why Westerbeke parts are so damn expensive!

    My governor failed over the weekend. Front seal and bearing went bad and all the oil came out. Then it chewed up all the seals.

    Now I'm very lucky and have some great boat neighbors. He has the unit and is rebuilding the thing. Hint to Westerebeke, sell a rebuild kit! The bearing and seals are common parts but come from different vendors. Four parts, four vendors. These seals fail often on these units. Several members have or are having the same issue. Many times when the do fail the shaft is ruined. I got lucky there.

    A new governor just short of $2000.00 a used unit $675.00. Parts to rebuild $20.00. So please explain why?
     
  2. hottoddie

    hottoddie Member

    871
    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 Express
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin GSD 22 Sounder
    Garm
    454 Crusaders
    As bad as it is it could be worse. You could have a Kohler and it would never even run :D
     
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  3. Ididntdoit

    Ididntdoit Active Member

    Dec 5, 2007
    East Coast Florida
    300 Sundancer
    5.0MPI Bravo III
    we have had other threads on this.......its the only way they make money......i believe hansen marine had to step in and buy part of the company at some point to keep them afloat.....westerbeke buys the parts and de-identifies them and reboxes.......and raises the price by 200%.......ive figured out most of the stuff on mine and source things from the aftermarket.....but when you do need a westerbeke part, it stings
     
  4. dwna1a

    dwna1a Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350

    Can you share some of those sources?
     
  5. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    I'd also like to see some sources other than Westerbeke if you could post them. Particularly routine maintenance stuff.
     
  6. SCORPIO

    SCORPIO Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 7, 2008
    Delaware
    1989 300 DA
    Twin 5.7 Merc Alpha I
    When it comes to seals, bearings, gears and the like, I always take my old ones to Applied Industrial and have them figure out what size they are and get new ones from them, much cheaper than OEM and they usually have them since there is a distribution center located in our area.
     
  7. QT1

    QT1 Member

    236
    Oct 20, 2016
    Belair, MD
    1988 300 Weekender
    5.7 Mercruisers, Westerbeke genny (that works!), Avon dinghy w/ Yamaha
    outboard
    Could you please provide a point of contact for Applied General? Thanks
     
  8. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    365
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    Hush....... o_O
     
  9. Ididntdoit

    Ididntdoit Active Member

    Dec 5, 2007
    East Coast Florida
    300 Sundancer
    5.0MPI Bravo III
    Figured out the cross to a wix filter - matched up the belts so I can get them at an autoparts store - source relays online (common automotive type) - carb directly from the manufacturer - always takes detective work and internet searches - my powerhead is a tohatsu outboard so it helps to know that to get engine specific parts - recently had to rebuild my water pump and got parts from Johnson Pump - matched up the impeller too and direct it is 1/3rd the cost......if I need specific parts that westerbeke has manufactured I find the cheapest place is CARP in Grant, Fla
     
  10. kap2

    kap2 Member SILVER Sponsor

    136
    Oct 28, 2013
    Rhode Island
    370 Sundancer 1998
    Twin 7.4L Mercruiser V-drive
    +1 on Carp (carpcoastalmarine) I purchase westerbeke parts from them.
     
  11. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Member

    628
    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI V drives
    +2 on CARP. With ethanol in the gas, you can expect to replace the fuel pump every few years. They are a Facet, painted red. The only "Westerbeke" parts I have had to buy direct were the exhaust manifold (find that post and see what happened), and the line from the fuel pump to the carb inlet. Even that is just bent fuel tubing, but I was too lazy to do it myself. About the only affordable thing on that genset from Westerbeke is the zinc anode in the heat exchanger.
     
  12. dwna1a

    dwna1a Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    May be we should all get together and post parts and where we find them.

    As soon as I get the governor back I will post the replacement bearing number and the seal number. I also have the oil filter and belt numbers in my log book.

    The governor is a very easy rebuild as long as the shaft is good. So don't spend your boat dollars on something like this. Check the oil often!
     
  13. dwna1a

    dwna1a Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    I'd like to thank you for the CarpMarine source. I've gotten the old governor back and on but found that the distributer cap is shot and that I could use some new points. So a good tuneup is in order.
     
  14. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Member

    628
    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI V drives
    I've got a new one on the raw water pump, and the pully, should you ever need one. Mine moved a bit on the shaft, and is NOT coming off the old pump, even with my super-human determination. I am not going to post it until I have installed and proven it to be a correct replacement, but let's say 700+ for a pump vs 300, and 300 for a pully vs 12 bucks. Westerbeke=Lexus. That would be Toyota parts at Bently prices. Shame on you. We ain't that dumb.
     

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