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Fuel Prices

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by HawkX66, Jan 13, 2021 at 8:08 AM.

  1. HawkX66

    HawkX66 Active Member

    348
    Jul 27, 2020
    SE Virginia and Mass
    1997 Sea Ray Sundancer 290DA
    454 L29 Carb w/ Bravo III
    President Trump isn't even out of office yet and fuel has gone up $.30-$.40 around me. I can't wait to see the fuel dock prices this summer...
     
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  2. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    If it goes up this summer I'd assume it has more to do with increasing demand than who's in office. But I'm certainly not an expert on global economies and oil markets...
     
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  3. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    ..just a mention of stopping fracking or not staying energy independent and the prices will go thru the roof.
    Reminds me of an argument with my next door neighbor...they both were all for raising our local school taxes during the last recession....its for the kids they would say...it passed and they were so happy...the only thing that changed was the High school football team got 4 new golf carts to go from the equipment room to the field...a total of 25 yards. Careful what you vote for
     
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  4. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Well-Known Member

    May 25, 2016
    on a large body of water
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Convert fuel into noise
    I've been talking to many in the oil and gas industry. It's no secret the incoming administration is against fossil fuels, and have made statements to such. Fracking is going to get heavily regulated to a point it won't be cost feasible, and they will stop. Same with leases and production.

    Plans are already underway to begin offshoring our energy once again, which in return means higher fuel prices. I hope everyone enjoyed the past 4 years of being energy independent which resulted in low fuel prices, that is going away.

    Not only do higher fuel prices affect boating, but every aspect of our lives. Transportation becomes more expensive and effects food prices and production, as well as manufactured goods.

    The other downside coming is boat sales. Once the fuel rises the demand for recreational boating will decrease. What we saw last year with record sales is not going to happen this year, in fact you will start seeing a lot of fire sales coming up on people who bought boats, especially last year. The allure and fun will quickly vanish when they figure out what it is going to cost to run these. Of course, the same will be true across many hobbies that are based on fossil fuel.

    Pandora's Box has been opened.
     
  5. Timeflys

    Timeflys Active Member

    317
    Dec 7, 2013
    Thousand Islands, Ontario, Canada
    "Frequent Flyer"
    2002 Sundancer 360
    Merc Horizon 8.1s
    Be very wary when your new government starts talking about rejoining the Paris Climate Accord and meeting GHG targets/price on carbon....read taxes. Remember, we are metric in Canada 1 US gal= 3.78 litres.

    “The current price on carbon translates to Canadians paying roughly an extra 2.3 cents per litre of gasoline, which is set to rise to an extra 12 cents per litre under the $50 per tonne pricing in 2022.

    Government officials speaking on background on Friday said the increase in the carbon tax after 2022 would translate to an increase of roughly 27.6 cents per litre from 2022 costs.

    That means Canadians can expect to pay roughly an extra 39.6 cents per litre of gasoline by 2030.

    Officials would not provide an estimate on the effect the increase would have on home heating costs across the country, noting that will change depending on the energy source and how Canadians use the retrofit incentives being rolled out through the plan.”
    https://globalnews.ca/news/7515981/canada-climate-change-plan-justin-trudeau/

    And these taxes are on top of taxes which account for roughly 30% of pump price.
     
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  6. joeyleggz

    joeyleggz Active Member

    715
    Jan 15, 2013
    long island
    current boat: 1997 sea ray 330 express cruiser
    twin 454's efi
    Yup this is no secret saw this coming, the signals were everywhere besides the bold commentary from the incoming administration we are no longer leaders in Influence on renewable energy ,Trumps energy independence plan was to, well just that make us independent and put the money back in our pockets there’s no point in pursuing renewable energy if nations with four times our population Are not even going to attempt that. We as people are not ready to go green sorry. Expect 350 a gallon by the summer wide spread across our nation here comes 2012 2013 all over again. Oil is the most exploited manipulative commodity in existence . The incoming party and administration know this they like having international friends hint hint. Follow the bouncing ball
     
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  7. HawkX66

    HawkX66 Active Member

    348
    Jul 27, 2020
    SE Virginia and Mass
    1997 Sea Ray Sundancer 290DA
    454 L29 Carb w/ Bravo III
    Where I lived in Mass until a few years ago it was the same thing. My town was basically the hub of lib ideals. Your argument wasn't an argument. It was a way of life for them. Proposition 2 1/2 overrides always passed.
    It was fun being the Scoutmaster there. They just couldn't understand why I resigned when the national leadership decided to go PC over the boys safety. Principles aren't always comfortable or convenient...
     
  8. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    My cousin works at a large refinery in the New Orleans area. They just started back up after shutting down sometime last summer. Didn't process a drop of crude oil for almost 6 months. This was primarily due to lack of demand because of Covid. He said that some refineries will not come back from this. The result is reduced refining capacity which leads to reduced fuel supplies. Supply goes down/price goes up.

    Jaybeaux
     
  9. Shaps

    Shaps Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    659
    Nov 4, 2019
    Long Island,NY
    2010 Sundancer 500
    Twin Cummins QSC550 DTS w Zeus
    As prices go up, one would assume those mothballed refineries would come back online. Balancing the supply/demand equation with some amount of lag.
     
  10. Roland Illvesand

    Roland Illvesand Active Member

    102
    Jan 14, 2019
    Stockholm Sweden
    Sea Ray 260 DA 2001 Mercruiser 5.7 EFI and Bravo 3
    Mercruiser 5.7 EFI and Bravo 3
    I would be very happy if I could by gasoline for 3.50 USD/gallon, here in Sweden I pay
    7 USD/gallon :(
     
  11. boatman37

    boatman37 Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2015
    pittsburgh
    2006 Crownline 250CR. 5.7 Merc BIII
    Previous: 1986 Sea Ray 250 Sundancer. 260 Merc Alpha 1 Gen 1
    5.7 Merc BIII
    I'm guessing we see $5/gallon by summer and probably over $8/gallon by next year. My son will likely lose his job. He is a safety manager for a major construction company. He is on the pipeline division. My oldest step-son is a Cpl detective and is trying to get out. He knows law enforcement is going to have a very rough time the next 4 years and figures his chances of getting hurt or worse on the job will go up exponentially since their hands are getting tied tighter and tighter.
     
  12. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Dual Raymarine Axiom
    Tracvision
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    Almost overnight too. Drove by my go-to station today and it was up .34 from yesterday.
     
  13. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Well-Known Member

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    We are still seeing about $5 total to fill up our Tesla at the supercharger pump. At home, the sun fills it up for us.
     
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  14. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    And how much will it cost to fill up that Sea Ray Sedan Bridge.
     
  15. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Well-Known Member

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    A lot more. We cruise in “slow econo mode” to compensate.
     
  16. Shaps

    Shaps Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    659
    Nov 4, 2019
    Long Island,NY
    2010 Sundancer 500
    Twin Cummins QSC550 DTS w Zeus
    Glad I put my boat away with full tanks. The value is going UP every day! o_O
     
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  17. HawkX66

    HawkX66 Active Member

    348
    Jul 27, 2020
    SE Virginia and Mass
    1997 Sea Ray Sundancer 290DA
    454 L29 Carb w/ Bravo III
    I think I'm going to go fill mine...
     
  18. RBB

    RBB Well-Known Member

    682
    Dec 18, 2019
    Kentucky
    2004 390 MY
    2019 Sea Doo GTX 155
    2020 Walker Bay Venture 14
    Pelican Kayak
    8.1’s straight drive
    60 hp Honda
    The way they shut down the coal industry was by enforcement of new consumer regs (Utility's). Gas will take the hit by production methods and lease's on Federal land.
    Hu, won't be long before the whole country see's what California has already experienced. No Power.
    I truly hope it dosen't happen.
     
  19. JC3

    JC3 Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2006
    Kentucky
    N/A
    N/A
    They decimated an all ready struggling region. The rules and regulations are untenable for all most all the companies now. The societal changes in the region are heart breaking. I fear massive changes are in the air.
     
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  20. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    Anacortes Washington
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 Charts Timezero radar Furuno
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    At this point US is exporter of crude and refined product. If fracking is legislated out US will be an importer. If you do not like that write your senator and your new president.
     
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