Interior cherry finish.

[cjflip1]

Looking at an early 2000 Searay 410 with cherry wood cabinets. I noticed a symptom that I have seem on a few with the top clearcoat delaminating, Flaking off or what I call ghosting under the clear coat. I wanted to ask if anyone has had these same symptoms and knows the correct way to repair. Suspect the top clear coat is a lacquer based paint.

Any opinions?

Chris

 

[K-DUB]

I have a bit of that going on with my 1998 400 with cherry wood. It seems more like a clear laminate over the wood than paint. I’m interested to see what other have to say.

 

[cjflip1]

I've heard the same. Thanks for chiming in and look forward to hearing others.

 

[Stee6043]

It's very common in our vintage boat. I had a 340 with the cherry that had this issue. On mine it appeared as though a top clear plastic sheet was separating from the veneer below. It was not a coating, it was a sheet material. When I was searching for cures I seem to recall full replacment being the only solution ($$$$'s).

The best way around this is to buy a boat with the lighter color interior . I assume the delamination is still there, it's just not noticeable on the lighter colors.

 

[cjflip1]

It's very common in our vintage boat. I had a 340 with the cherry that had this issue. On mine it appeared as though a top clear plastic sheet was separating from the veneer below. It was not a coating, it was a sheet material. When I was searching for cures I seem to recall full replacment being the only solution ($$$$'s).

The best way around this is to buy a boat with the lighter color interior . I assume the delamination is still there, it's just not noticeable on the lighter colors.

This is pretty much what I have heard. Pricey fix. Thanks!

 

[PlayDate]

From 1995 to 2004 Sea Ray used a product know as Vitricor to provide a wood like finish on its cabinets. Vitricor was composed of a clear polycarbonate sheet compressed with a paper grain image. Sea Ray during that time sprayed adhesives on the particle board (MDF) cabinets and used a cold forming press to secure the .040" thick laminate to the MDF.

Over time several factors can cause the glue to release. When this happens either due to moisture or heat.....the laminate turns a milky white color and separates from the grain image.

98% of the time it cannot be reattached and must be replaced. Vitricor went out of business in 2004. The good news the owner of the original patents Nuvacor still produces the material for Restoration Marine.

Some finishes were lost in the process but the main production finishes of Sovereign Cherry, Executive Cherry and Light Burl are still available and made to order.

Nuvacor is on its 4th generation of the material and has addressed a number of the original installation issues. They produce a .020" thick material which is identical to the .040" material but because it is thinner.......it does not require a cold forming press to install.

As to the repair process......it really is not that different from refinishing kitchen cabinets. You peel off the old laminate and prep the MDF surface, apply contact cement to the MDF surface and apply the new laminate. A laminate router is used to trim the excess.

As to the cost.....the material is not Home Depot. It is specifically engineered for high moisture/high temperature environments and has a hard coating which is easy to clean and scratch resistant. More importantly.......it is an exact match for the laminate SR installed on our boats.

 

[Richard Carlisle]

Dealing with this on my 2007 44DB now. The trim is wood and coated with epoxy. The only stripper that touched it was citristrip, and it took so many coats to get to the wood, sanding was faster. I sanded with 80 to the wood then 220 then 320. Stained with red mahogany stain which was the closest match to the existing color then hit with gloss clear polyurethane.

The trim has to be removed to do it right. Some of it was glued on with silicon and some was screwed from behind.

to be clear, I’m dealing with trim not the laminate covering the flat surfaces.

 

[cjflip1]

From 1995 to 2004 Sea Ray used a product know as Vitricor to provide a wood like finish on its cabinets. Vitricor was composed of a clear polycarbonate sheet compressed with a paper grain image. Sea Ray during that time sprayed adhesives on the particle board (MDF) cabinets and used a cold forming press to secure the .040" thick laminate to the MDF.

Over time several factors can cause the glue to release. When this happens either due to moisture of heat.....the laminate turns a milky white color and separates from the grain image.

98% of the time it cannot be reattached and must be replaced. Vitricor went out of business in 2004. The good news the owner of the original patents Nuvacor still produces the material for Restoration Marine.

Some finishes were lost in the process but the main production finishes of Sovereign Cherry, Executive Cherry and Light Burl are still available and made to order.

Nuvacor is on its 4th generation of the material and has addressed a number of the original installation issues. They produce a .020" thick material which is identical to the .040" material but because it is thinner.......it does not require a cold forming press to install.

As to the repair process......it really is not that different from refinishing kitchen cabinets. You peel off the old laminate and prep the MDF surface, apply contact cement to the MDF surface and apply the new laminate. A laminate router is used to trim the excess.

As to the cost.....the material is not Home Depot. It is specifically engineered for high moisture/high temperature environments and has a hard coating which is easy to clean and scratch resistant. More importantly.......it is an exact match for the laminate SR installed on our boats.

WOW! Thanks for the invaluable information. Not sure the direction I would take if I pull the trigger on a SR that has these issues. Thanks for the very informative explanation. Chris